FlexJet Pay/Workrules/Benefits???

[Rupert.]

My recollection is that RIF returned while Kenn was off property.

You would be wrong

 

[dime line]

My recollection is that RIF returned while Kenn was off property.

Kenn was the Chairman of the board

 

[Rubber Ducky]

RIF was in 2007, right? JN or MS (i think MS) was CEO and KR was "absent".

 

[dime line]

RIF was in 2007, right? JN or MS (i think MS) was CEO and KR was "absent".

May 2008 and Ken was New Chairman

 

[hammer2]

May 2008 and Ken was New Chairman

...and the world was falling apart and there was little to no improvement over the next 5 years. No one got much of anything.

 

[Rubber Ducky]

May 2008 was a "legitimate" furlough that recognized seniority. The RIF of ~2007 was out of seniority and largely based upon scare tactics by MS. Those guys all came back I believe due to 1108 fighting for them. But I don't see the link here at all to KR. He didn't become Chairman again until summer of 2008, some time after MS had messed everything up.

 

[slowtation capt]

MS RIF'D 70 pilots out of seniority.
Majority were big union supporters, others were casualties of war, so has not to look like they were targeting certain people.
Kenn came back through HIG, MS got sh*t canned by Kenn.
Kenn and 1108 negiotiated to bring back the 70, plus back pay for the time they were RIF'D.
Then furlough's occurred.
Unsure of the specific dates, but that is the timeline of events.

So everyone is also clear, one of the in-house "steering" members, told the 1108 leadership to forget about the 70, take Kenn's pay raise deal with no contract and move on.
How about that in-house, can't wait to see what they would stand up for. How that's right, they wouldn't take a stand, they would roll over and let the company scratch their bellies and tell them everything is gonna be allright.

 

[dime line]

]May 2008 was a "legitimate" furlough that recognized seniority.

The RIF of ~2007 was out of seniority and largely based upon scare tactics by MS. Those guys all came back I believe due to 1108 fighting for them. But I don't see the link here at all to KR. He didn't become Chairman again until summer of 2008, some time after MS had messed everything up.[/QUOTE]

get your facts straight the "legitimate furlough" was written as a "Furlough without the possibility of recall", and this happened to 70 out of seniority pilots May 23 2008

 

[slowtation capt]

get your facts straight the "legitimate furlough" was written as a "Furlough without the possibility of recall", and this happened to 70 out of seniority pilots May 23 2008

What are you talking about, are you on drugs.

70 pilots RIF'D out of seniority by the MS regime
70 pilots that were RIF'D out of seniority brought back by KR
Furlough's by KR from the bottom of the seniority list and moving 1 # at a time up

 

[luckydog]

Remember the good old days when any thread about Flexjet was hijacked by NJ guys before the 2nd page… I really miss that.

I expected this to have some info about Flexjet pay and benefits, instead it's the a 'who screwed up Flight Options the most' thread.

Not a word about Flexjet offering furloughed FLOPs pilots interviews?

 

[gret]

Remember the good old days when any thread about Flexjet was hijacked by NJ guys before the 2nd page? I really miss that.

I expected this to have some info about Flexjet pay and benefits, instead it's the a 'who screwed up Flight Options the most' thread.

Not a word about Flexjet offering furloughed FLOPs pilots interviews?

Good post...a little smarts into what has turned into a ......whatever you want to call it.

 

[V1 Rotate]

Here ya go...Instead of honoring their commitments to those with interviews already lined up, now they are going to call the 180 FLOPs furloughed guys for an interview, starting with a phone screening just like every one else. Once they've gone through that list and hired the ones they prefer into a pool, then they resume normal, off the street interviews.

 

[993_Pilot]

....Once they've gone through that list and hired the ones they PREFER...

Any guesses to which ones they will prefer ?

( Hint: KR is working around the clock to bust the union)

 

[V1 Rotate]

Apparently, they prefer people whoever can have an intelligent, coherent phone screening, then in person come across as someone who they'd want to spend six days with on the road and then pass the sim eval. That's from them, not me. Any more than that in which you choose to try and decipher is up to you. I have no doubt that this has KR written all over it.

 

[BlueNose]

Any guesses to which ones they will prefer ?

( Hint: KR is working around the clock to bust the union)

Yes, Flexjet pilots, heed the cries of the 1108 leadership and their chorus! They come here warning you that you'd better do all you can to join them now, or risk suffering the same fate that they themselves negotiated for the Options pilot group.

Not sure if this is more tragedy or farce. Can't imagine why there'd be a movement afoot to change things among the Options group.

 

[dime line]

Which way do you want it Ricci or Teamsters?

 

[shanes123]

Why would any flex pilot not want to at least hear what the union has to say? The union is fighting for the pilots. Do you think management has the pilots best interest in mind? One more question has Ricci told anyone at flex he's the best union steward the pilots could have?? That was his big line back in 2000 just wondering if he's still using it

 

[shanes123]

My recollection is that RIF returned while Kenn was off property.

Ricci was on the property and hiding in shadows. He ordered the RIF and schreengia and middle management executed it .. Then Ricci emerged on his white horse fired Scheeringa and acted like he was cooperating with the union and brought back the RIF guys that he ordered fired that's the way it happened

 

[avratdwc]

Here ya go...Instead of honoring their commitments to those with interviews already lined up, now they are going to call the 180 FLOPs furloughed guys for an interview, starting with a phone screening just like every one else. Once they've gone through that list and hired the ones they prefer into a pool, then they resume normal, off the street interviews.

So I guess the phone screen I had arranged that subsequently cancelled due to a HR project is this?

How long till off the street continues?

 

[el raton]

I didn't like the CP's last email concerning sick days. He said when he was rehired he was in it for us. Well he just proved he's not. I hope this is an isolated case not the beginning of managing through intimidation.


If I misunderstood the email then I apologies.