COEX losing 69 Aircraft

[bugchaser]

I don't know where some of you are getting some of your figures but second year pay can be much better than 25k. I fully expect to make 40-45k in my second year at ExpressJet. It can be done if you are willing to work.

 

[suupah]

Everyone always references the $20,000 a year figure, yet it is only for the first couple of years. With per diem and hrs. beyondtha tguaranteed, you do much much better.

After upgrading and flying for a few more years, the pay does go up.

you make things sound so bleak, why ot leave the profession. Hopefully things will get better but asthey stand now, theyre not. Im still gonna get involved. Those who are there can complain, but they still work that job. Theres plenty of opportunites out there to make more at soemthing else. But they stay anyway.

Point is, 70=80 /yr is not so bad flying 80+ hrs a month.

Either he is part of management or he just thinks that we are all idiots. because if he actuallyunderstood what goes into being a line pilot he would not say this ignorant sh1t.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Start stackin resignation letters effective feb 1st.

If management can cancel a contract whenever they want why cant a pilot group start forcefull negotions for a new one anytime they feel like it.

Management can not cancel a contract whenever they want.

-Neal

 

[BlackPilot628]

I don't know where some of you are getting some of your figures but second year pay can be much better than 25k. I fully expect to make 40-45k in my second year at ExpressJet. It can be done if you are willing to work.

This is true if you want to work your butt off. Sometimes you need to do that to help with X-mas gifts and so on. I'm myself worked by butt off the last 3 months so I could buy everyone gifts this year. I did very well in the last 3 months.

 

[say again]

Im neither drunk nor trying to stir anything up. It wasntmeant to be funny or unprofessional. Yeah, like ppl around here are sooo professional.

Evryone is always talking about how crappy their pay is. They all announce it loud and clear and how terrible it is. Why not chastize them.

I AM willing to make low wages for a few years in order to top out at 60-70K/yr. Maybe by then it'll be closer to 80K.

The point being, 70 or 80 a yr, is not so awful. I work more than twice as many hours a year (55 hr. weeks) to make that kind of money now, sitting in front of a cpu. If I can work half the time and be flying, well, it doesnt seem so bad to me. You dont have to agree. But if you compklain than quit the job. What can I say.

Stay with a regional and top your pay out. If youre lucky, go on to a major.

But I know what the rules and pays are outthere, and Im willing to accept the low startign wages to eventually make high 5 figures.

Im not a spoiled brat, and I paid every cent for my ratings.

So young, stupid, and very naive. It's people like you that are willing to work for peanuts that ruin it for the rest of us. I wasn't happy making 40-45 grand for years to come, it sux. And the comment you said about only working 75-80 hrs a month is bull$hit. That is all you get paid. You get paid block time, not the time that you are on duty, which usually is considerably longer. You could fly 6 hrs a day (paid) and be on duty for 14, which leaves 8 hrs of wasted time (unpaid). This job is not as glamorous as it seems. I think you should do some research and get the facts before you start posting, so you don't make yourself look like a complete fool. Oh yeah, don't give me this, "if you are so unhappy than quit" BS either. Aviation is a career unlike others. You just can't quit your job and find something of equal or more pay, usually you are going to take another drastic pay cut. Again, inform yourself before posting.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

So young, stupid, and very naive. It's people like you that are willing to work for peanuts that ruin it for the rest of us. ....................
Aviation is a career unlike others. You just can't quit your job and find something of equal or more pay, usually you are going to take another drastic pay cut. Again, inform yourself before posting.

Are you telling me to not take a job for 22K a year? should I wait until the job pays 50K to start? Is that what you honestly think will happen? IT NEVER WILL. Those are the dynamics of the industry.

What is your point?

Im hurting the industry because I want to get a job flying at a regional? Isnt this what you did when you signed up? You accepted the pay and still work the job.

So dont criticize me. Youre just being a hypocrite. Its people like you who are STILL working for peanuts. Why not do something about it instead of passing the buck to someone who wants to work too.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Either he is part of management or he just thinks that we are all idiots. because if he actuallyunderstood what goes into being a line pilot he would not say this ignorant sh1t.

nice post, but it is you who kind of sounds ignorant. I bet you were a C student at best.

 

[XJETDriver]

DNKT quit blaming your problems on everyone else. Its pathetic and you just make yourself look stupid. Go laugh at the Mesa pilots who pick up the flying... attitudes like this are not going to help you. Why should a Mesa, Republic, Trans States etc employee feel any need to help you secure your job when you act this way? Besides, you chose to work there... Keep up that attitude and you can expect nothing more than employees of those companies to LAUGH out loud at you with your XJT badge as you make your way toward the unemployment line.

No we are going to be laughing when Mesa drills a mountain in Mexico. I will also laugh at any Mesa pilot that trys to jumpseat on my a/c.

 

[XJETDriver]

69 jets + Mesa = smoking hole in mexico.

LOL...that is GREAT!!

 

[spacecadet1]

No we are going to be laughing when Mesa drills a mountain in Mexico. I will also laugh at any Mesa pilot that trys to jumpseat on my a/c.

Now, now, be nice. If you let them jumpseat, and are nice to them, they just might write you a letter of recommendation at Mesa. Or better yet, personally deliver it to J.O. You would probably do quite well in the E-145 training.

 

[PacoPollo]

Dont worry guys. Its just a cycle.

 

[AirBill]

69 jets + Mesa = smoking hole in mexico.

LOL..that is GREAT!!

Oh yeah, that is f*cking funny! F*CKING HORSESH!T!!!

Anyone here who thinks that's funny should have their nuts sliced off and jamed up their cornhole. That is BULLSH!T!!!

You make a comment like that, sounds like you WANT it to happen. F*ck you, and f*ck all of you who thought it was funny. You'll think it's funny if it really happens? You people ought to have your f*cking heads examined. Or smashed in, I can't decide which.

I have friends who work for Mesa, and I have friends who work for CoEx, and both are some of the greatest people you'll ever know. Better than most here, for sure. I call bullsh!t on taking away 69 airplanes from a good pilot group. But I call horsesh!t on little f*ckers who sound like they HOPE some poor bastard will lose their life and the lives of 50 others just so they can prove a point in their sick, twisted pathetic little lives.

And don't say that's not what you meant. Doesn't matter. Read your posts again, you f*cking morons.

 

[say again]

Are you telling me to not take a job for 22K a year? should I wait until the job pays 50K to start? Is that what you honestly think will happen? IT NEVER WILL. Those are the dynamics of the industry.

What is your point?

Im hurting the industry because I want to get a job flying at a regional? Isnt this what you did when you signed up? You accepted the pay and still work the job.

So dont criticize me. Youre just being a hypocrite. Its people like you who are STILL working for peanuts. Why not do something about it instead of passing the buck to someone who wants to work too.

Re-read my first post!!!!! Actually re-read everyone else's posts. I'm not the only one who feels as I do!!!

BTW- I am no longer working for peanuts, so your hypocrite statement can be thrown out the window. I got out of the regionals and now have a decent paying job. I won't be making 40K for years to come, it's much more.

I never said for you not to take any job. Do as you wish, I really could give a rats a$$ what you do!!!!

 

[CALnTX]

Correct, CHQ is not in the market to bid on any add'l 145 flying. We are getting out of that market, and subsequently have bypassed opportunities to bid on droves of flying i.e. united Air Willy, etc. Our CEO said "No."

CHQ won't have a single 145 two years from now.

No but CAL will own 69 of them that CHQ is making an offer to fly. CAL does not want MESA and neither do the high paying frequent flyers I'm told. JO is not regarded highly around here. However it is all a year a way so we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[pianoman]

I don't hate Mesa pilots. Those that chose to go to Freedom (first incarnation) are idiots. Those guys forced the rest of them to vote in a substandard TA to get back flying at the alter-ego.

I AM expecting more on their next contract, though. When's it up for renegotiation?