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Continental Airlines to Withdraw 69 Aircraft From ExpressJet Airlines, Inc.
Wednesday December 28, 10:56 am ET
HOUSTON, Dec. 28 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL - News) today announced that it has given notice it will withdraw 69 of 274 regional jet aircraft from its capacity purchase agreement with ExpressJet Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: XJT - News) and ExpressJet Airlines, Inc. (ExpressJet). ExpressJet is currently the exclusive operator of regional jet services for Continental Airlines.
will request proposals from numerous regional jet operators to provide regional jet service to replace the withdrawn capacity. The transition of service from ExpressJet to a new operator is expected to begin in January 2007 and be completed during the summer of 2007.
Continental is withdrawing the 69 aircraft under its capacity purchase agreement with ExpressJet, as permitted under that agreement, because Continental believes the rates charged by ExpressJet to Continental for regional capacity are above the current market.
Prior to today's announcement, Continental and ExpressJet attempted to negotiate a more competitive long-term contract, but the parties were unable to reach agreement.
"We didn't want to take this action, but we were not able to reach an agreement with ExpressJet to lower our cost," said Continental's Senior Vice President of Asia/Pacific & Corporate Development Mark Erwin. "Continental will continue to take the difficult actions necessary to remain competitive and protect the jobs and retirement security of our 42,000 employees."
ExpressJet can continue to sublease from Continental any of the 69 withdrawn aircraft, although at significantly increased lease rates. However, ExpressJet cannot operate any aircraft into Continental's hubs except under its agreement with Continental. Should ExpressJet elect to retain aircraft, those aircraft may be replaced by a new operator. ExpressJet has up to nine months to determine whether it will continue to sublease any of the withdrawn aircraft.
Continental Airlines is the world's sixth-largest airline. Continental, together with Continental Express and Continental Connection, has more than 3,000 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia, serving 151 domestic and 133 international destinations, more than any other carrier in the world. More than 400 additional points are served via SkyTeam alliance airlines, which include Aeromexico, Air France, Alitalia, CSA Czech Airlines, Delta Air Lines, KLM, Korean Air and Northwest Airlines. With over 42,000 employees, Continental has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and together with Continental Express, carries approximately 60 million passengers per year. Continental consistently earns awards and critical acclaim for both its operation and its corporate culture.
For the second consecutive year, FORTUNE magazine named Continental the No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline on its 2005 list of Most Admired Global Companies. Continental was also included in the publication's annual "Top 50" list, which ranks all companies, across a wide variety of industries, that appear in the Global Most Admired Companies issue. Continental again won major awards at the 2005 OAG Airline of the Year Awards including "Airline of the Year" and "Best Airline Based in North America" for the second consecutive year, and "Best Executive/Business Class" for the third consecutive year. For more company information, visit continental.com .
 
This came directly from Continental Airlines. I just got the e-mail from the company news server. Whomever was wishing us doom, Belated Merry Christmas.
 
Let the Flipping Games begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dec. 28, 2005
EMPLOYEE BULLETIN NO. 30
CO issued the following news release today, along with an employee Q and A. The bulletin and the Q and A are included as separate .pdf attachments.
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES TO WITHDRAW 69 AIRCRAFT
FROM EXPRESSJET AIRLINES, INC.

HOUSTON, Dec. 28, 2005 – Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL) today announced that it has given notice it will withdraw 69 of 274 regional jet aircraft from its capacity purchase agreement with ExpressJet Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: XJT) and ExpressJet Airlines, Inc. (ExpressJet). ExpressJet is currently the exclusive operator of regional jet services for Continental Airlines.
Continental will request proposals from numerous regional jet operators to provide regional jet service to replace the withdrawn capacity. The transition of service from ExpressJet to a new operator is expected to begin in January 2007 and be completed during the summer of 2007.
Continental is withdrawing the 69 aircraft under its capacity purchase agreement with ExpressJet, as permitted under that agreement, because Continental believes the rates charged by ExpressJet to Continental for regional capacity are above the current market.
Prior to today’s announcement, Continental and ExpressJet attempted to negotiate a more competitive long-term contract, but the parties were unable to reach agreement.
“We didn’t want to take this action, but we were not able to reach an agreement with ExpressJet to lower our cost,” said Continental’s Senior Vice President of Asia/Pacific & Corporate Development Mark Erwin. “Continental will continue to take the difficult actions necessary to remain competitive and protect the jobs and retirement security of our 42,000 employees.”
ExpressJet can continue to sublease from Continental any of the 69 withdrawn aircraft, although at significantly increased lease rates. However, ExpressJet cannot operate any aircraft into Continental’s hubs except under its agreement with Continental. Should ExpressJet elect to retain aircraft, those aircraft may be replaced by a new operator. ExpressJet has up to nine months to determine whether it will continue to sublease any of the withdrawn aircraft.

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EMPLOYEE

 
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I wonder if Xjet will bid on other flying? How competitive are they right now? I would hate to see people I know lose their jobs...

Who wants to bet Mesa will bag this codeshare as well?

~wheelsup
 
Why didn't those XJT pilots get an agreement with ALPA before voting ALPA on the property. Express Jet was in the position to scope this flying and reasonably close to one list at one time.

D@mn, another contestant now enters the race for the bottom, and I'm sure others will look to nibble on XJT's flying.

We really have to get together and form a real union.
 
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Sorry to hear this!

You guys are a class act! - Seems like all the good pilot groups are going to take it up the a$$!

Good luck you guys!..............Thanks MESA!!!
 
wheelsup said:
I wonder if Xjet will bid on other flying? How competitive are they right now? I would hate to see people I know lose their jobs...

Who wants to bet Mesa will bag this codeshare as well?

~wheelsup

bingo!! we have a winner!! tell him what he's won johnny!!

well, you get an all expenses paid trip to the bottom of the industry, where you will have substandard QOL,pay and benifits, quick upgrade times to a "major" and be universally (SP) hated by those who you share your crewrooms with. more you say, well hold on for this. You will learn to love eating the snack mix out of the galley as a meal, you will keep the pizza cold from dinner on the windowsill of your hotel, and warm it up on the lampshade, and enjoy your 6 days off at home in your crashpad with your 10 other roommates. But best of all Johnny, you will be a jet pilot at (enter mainline name here) Express operated by Mesa Airlines.


(applause)

commence bashing
 
It was inevitable. CoEx is the same carrier that furloughed 40% of its pilots within months of 9/11. Followed it up a couple years later by massive growth. Now possible furloughs again? CoEx/XJet must view employees as temp workers. Although I understand this is Continental mgmt, the end result is the same. Good luck!
 
It seems CAL is going to keep the same airplanes...just give them to a new operator. Mesa...TranStates...CHQ...i guess anyone with a ERJ program is probably about ready to get a big phat carrot that will be bit and placed right in COEX's as.s. Everyone's getting boned these days...unreal.

UPDATE 1-Continental to yank 69 planes from ExpressJet

Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:27 AM ET
NEW YORK, Dec 28 (Reuters) - Continental Airlines Inc. (CAL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Wednesday that it plans to take back 69 regional jets that ExpressJet Holdings Inc. (XJT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) had been operating for it after failing to win a cheaper contract.

Continental, the No. 5 U.S. airline, said it would seek bids from other regional jet operators to operate the aircraft at more competitive rates. The jets are part of a 274-plane fleet that ExpressJet operates for Continental under the capacity purchase agreement.
"We didn't want to take this action, but we were not able to reach an agreement with ExpressJet to lower our cost," said Continental's Senior Vice President of Asia/Pacific & Corporate Development Mark Erwin.
ExpressJet has up to nine months to decide whether it wants to sublease any of the 69 aircraft, on which it would pay higher rates, Continental said. ExpressJet would be barred from operating them in any Continental hub without the Houston-based carrier's permission. ExpressJet shares were down $2.02, or 19 percent, at $8.61 in late morning trading, while Continental's were 68 cents, or 3.2 percent lower.
 
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The Majors UNFORTUNATELY want lower wages EVERYWHERE. Expressjet has a good contract for 50 seaters, and the bar was lowering anyway. This is bad. I have told a few people on here that if I had to go to a regional, Expressjet was my choice. This is nuts.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
The dreaded RFP. Coex was the only airline with any leverage and therefor a very strong contract. I am very sorry to hear about the bid process begining at your airline. Almost six years ago I was on a negotiating committee for a small ALPA carrier and got in a heated discussion with the compan's attorney for F&H. He calmly stated that regional pay was going to come down, and come down hard. I laughed, at the time regional airlines were still pattern bargaining and the pay and work rules were really improving. We went on for a few minutes and he mentioned "competition". I thought, what the f is he talking about? Soon thereafter a few usairways feeds started to disappear and then UAL tried the first big rfp with enormous success. NWA was next, then DAL. To get an idea of what '06 has in store, call a friend at air willy or comair. I would not be surprised if you had a visit from an E190 by summertime (your first round of concessions will be under the guise of competition for new and exciting shiny jets). By this time next year they will be squeezing out another pint of blood and it will establish the "ongoing and future viability of the company". Once again, I am sorry to hear this news.
 
I am surprised that there haven't been any Skywest guys chiming in yet with

"we're gonna take it all"
 
Watch Colgan enter the fray with Saab 2000s or Flyi's former CRJs. The regional airline death spiral continues...
 

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