COEX losing 69 Aircraft

[Iflyamouse]

That is why we must have an effective union.

Is there such a thing anymore?

 

[FlyinPiker]

I would not be surprised if you had a visit from an E190 by summertime (your first round of concessions will be under the guise of competition for new and exciting shiny jets).

I'm sure that will be something that will happen down the line......the "SAVING GRACE" if you will, but for now CAL still has scope. The 69 airplanes that will be being replacing COEX's will be the same aircraft, just a new operator. At least that's how it appears so far.

 

[$$$4nothin]

The last thing I want to see is one of my RJ's with a continental paint job. I feel for you coex guys. I hope it all works out for you. You guys were doing a great job in standing up for what was right.

 

[filejw]

Anybody doubt we need a nationwide contract with one rate and the same amendable date.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

If I said it before, I'll say again "f**king Mesa". I really though we could weather this storm and maybe there was some light of hope that by providing great service, it would prove that a quality regional airline is worth a little extra to the majors. Guess that idea got shot down and now it's time to really start cranking on the resumes. Sad thing is this doesn't just affect the "regionals", it has reprucutions for the majors. Every time the regional level of pay/benefits is sunk more, the majors can justify siphoning off flying to the 50 seat level and with the 170s/190s, the 70-100 seat market. Less jobs at the majors, and more jobs and crappy regionals and thus comes the spiral of death for this once prestegious career.

 

[Iflyamouse]

Someone made reference to CoEx having a good 50 seat rate. These jets that are going bye-bye, are they 37 seaters that CO is deciding aren't profitable? How does a major decide that only 69 jets aren't profitable while the others are?? Someone enlighten us on how this contract works.

 

[Detroitpilot22]

All of us (9e, xj, coex, skywest, colgan, chautauqua, republic, shutle, trans, american eagle, and any others that i forgot) should just pick one day where we all just dont show up to work on the same day. Imagine that, It would cripple all of the majors and maybe make a point to the public. There is no way they could replace all of us.

 

[Superpilot92]

we dont have 69 135's i think we have something like 30. If we loose 69 aircraft it definitly will be the 135s and the ERs. This is going to be a very interesting year to come for sure. Hopefully its scare tactics

 

[Superpilot92]

All of us (9e, xj, coex, skywest, colgan, chautauqua, republic, shutle, trans, american eagle, and any others that i forgot) should just pick one day where we all just dont show up to work on the same day. Imagine that, It would cripple all of the majors and maybe make a point to the public. There is no way they could replace all of us.

Unfortunatly i dont think we could make that happen.

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

nice try

I am surprised that there haven't been any Skywest guys chiming in yet with

"we're gonna take it all"

You can stick with your real bottom feeders first 007.

SkyWest doesn't fly ERJ's. They have enough flying already.

you have fun with mesa and hojetz first wank face

 

[dkwid]

Someone made reference to CoEx having a good 50 seat rate. These jets that are going bye-bye, are they 37 seaters that CO is deciding aren't profitable? How does a major decide that only 69 jets aren't profitable while the others are?? Someone enlighten us on how this contract works.

The press release indicates that the planes are staying they will just be crewed by another provider. Sounds like Continental owns them and leases them to COEX and they intend to lease them now tho some cheap-A$$ provider.

Am I reading this correct?

 

[Wasted]

How does a major decide that only 69 jets aren't profitable while the others are?? Someone enlighten us on how this contract works.

69 was just the greatest number of aircraft that could be withdrawn at this time under the contract language. If they could, they probably would've taken all of them.

 

[mckpickle]

It was inevitable. CoEx is the same carrier that furloughed 40% of its pilots within months of 9/11. Followed it up a couple years later by massive growth. Now possible furloughs again? CoEx/XJet must view employees as temp workers. Although I understand this is Continental mgmt, the end result is the same. Good luck!

We did not furlough 40% of our pilots after 911.

 

[Hipster Loser]

How many pilots will be affected. Someone hired at expressjet spring 04 - will they be out of a job?

 

[Superpilot92]

Spring 2004 would still have a job. If we lose all 69 aircraft thats about 690 pilots which would go back to spring of 2005 hires.

 

[Airmike767]

CO will obviously choose which jets they want returned as they "own" or hold the leases on all of XJT operated aircraft. They could just start another airline under "Britt" or one of the other certificates they own!

The aircraft will still be operated on CO routes. I am very sorry for the XJT pilots who lose on this deal.........perhaps it's time to reevaluate the flow thru agreement and draw some of the pilots off the seniority list at XJT!

CO intends to hire 64 per month for several months then 48 for the foreseeable future.

 

[Superpilot92]

CO will obviously choose which jets they want returned as they "own" or hold the leases on all of XJT operated aircraft. They could just start another airline under "Britt" or one of the other certificates they own!

The aircraft will still be operated on CO routes. I am very sorry for the XJT pilots who lose on this deal.........perhaps it's time to reevaluate the flow thru agreement and draw some of the pilots off the seniority list at XJT!

CO intends to hire 64 per month for several months then 48 for the foreseeable future.

we could only hope this could happen.

 

[CoATP]

9E is gearing up to train 700 pilots in 2006. That's about the right number of pilots. Perhaps they are considering picking up this if NWA moves its flying with the RFP.

 

[On Your Six]

This could just be opening-round negotiating - right? We don't know if this is finalized. Sounds like hard-ball negotiating to me - bring down the rates or else...

 

[YourPilotFriend]

If i'm not mistaken, XJ is the one bidding on that flying.