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Originally Posted by P38JLightning
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Originally Posted by N2264J
>>>Personally, I wouldn't want to sign on to a pay freeze until we all understand where the Delta furloughees fit into this deal.<<<
At the bottom of our list, if they choose to take the interview and if Comair management decides to hire them, unless we choose to modify our contract to allow otherwise (not even mentioned, much less in relation to this latest proposal)...Carpe Diem.
That's not quite how it worked out at PSA and the fact that it wasn't mentioned is no less cause for concern. It isn't growth if Comair pilots aren't flying the planes.
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Okay, again, they did chose to modify their PWA's which allowed to happen what happened. But, let's say your interpretation is correct (that the mainline can just arbitrarily do whatever they want). Then according to your theory, the mainline can already do whatever they want, right?
So what's stopping them?
The RJDC?
Okay, again, using your theory, the RJDC would still stop them, even under a pay freeze.
Your circle of logic just doesn't make sense. If they can do it now they can do it under a pay freeze. If the RJDC is stopping them, the RJDC will stop them regardless.
Oh and nimrod,
Why are you so threatened about a Comair pay freeze? If you work at Chautauqua you have negotiated a very agressive growth contract that has directly resulted in the cancellation of massive ammounts of Comair options that have been reallocated (albeit under a different manufacturer, but a DCI slot just the same) that has resulted in you getting DCI growth to the point of one of the most junior upgrades in the industry. You will grow the rest of this decade to an extent not seen by many "regional" airlines in history because of the grow by any means necessary contract your group voted in place.
Is a 12 or 18 month jet captain upgrade or E-170 new hire situation not good enough for you? Should we fall on our swords so you can get 8 or 6 month upgrades, or street hire E-170 captains even?
We have not only raised the bar but have set the bar and kept it there for years. All the while no one has passed us, despite numerous contracts being negotiated since then, even including one under the threat of an immediate strike. All everyone seems to be willing to do is get close to what we got, but always, always just a little bit below us. Its like saying gee thanks, we appreciate you holding the bar up so that we can have a more comfortable standard of living when we ultimately underbid you.
That, my friend, is hypocracy.
This pay freeze may or may not pass, or may or may not even go for a vote. We will run it by our last remaining hope, our ASA brothers, to see what they think. If they are cool with it, expect us to give it serious consideration. We need to get DCI's future back in our hands and out of the hands of the low bidder lorenzo style "air groups" out there. If someone doesn't stop this race to the bottom that "major" you are building time trying to get to won't be worth squat in 5 or 10 years from now when the bottom feeders have large fleets of E-170, E-190 and God forbid 737 or 717's at "Comair minus" 50 seat pay rates. In case you haven't noticed that has been the "trend vector" for the last 3+ years, without exception.
We have been happy to raise and keep high our end of the profession, but in general, and within DCI in particular, its beginning to look like it might be time for some painful chemotherapy. If you were us, what would you suggest we do?
