"Brown bag lunch" at Island Air

[airludy]

I recieved a invitation to interview at Island Air and turned it down today. They actually told me to bring a "brown bag lunch" to the interview. That was the final straw. Not to metion the low pay, paying for my own ticket to the interview and the cost of living in hawaii. I sent a replay and told them thanks, but no thanks.

I mean what a joke, bring your own lunch. I'm interviewing half way across the planet and they want me to worry about finding lunch to bring to the inteview. What I joke! I have more pride than to lower myself to this cheap industry. Its definatly time for a career change.

 

[English]

I'm having a sense of deja vu...


Don't worry man, it'll be funny in a few years.

 

[mdanno808]

Do the other regionals provide you with a meal during the interview?

 

[English]

Yes, many do.

 

[propjockey]

SkyWest is not among them.

 

[mdanno808]

I'm broke and hungry, anyone interviewing this week?

 

[Mookie]

skywest does...just saw the spread myself yesterday. if u don'y make iy to lunch, then obviously........


mookie

 

[s.o.sJTB]

skywest does...just saw the spread myself yesterday. if u don'y make iy to lunch, then obviously........


mookie

No they dont, what you saw was an employee appreciation week lunch where the company is providing lunch to all employees all week.

 

[FedEx1]

Hmm, I think asking you to brown bag it was kind of polite. I mean, they aren't all the well off financially, and aren't buying you a lunch. But so what? (Do they even have a cafeteria in their offices??) But since the interview day is long, they want to ensure you will be comfortable and have something to eat. Making you stick around all day without food would have been awful, not your brown bag.


Most regionals the size of Island Air aren't going to buy you a lunch, or an airline ticket to interview. Most will let you fly on their own airline space available though. But it isn't their fault you live on the mainland. ATA has some cheap tickets to the islands if you change your mind. Try out of SFO, LAX or PHX.

Even Fedex doesn't buy you an airline ticket to interview. (We do buy lunch, but it is in the cafeteria in the interview building. Easy and cheap to do.)

 

[414Flyer]

Imagine showing up with a liquid lunch 40oz of beer in that brown bag.

"But this is lunch, it is made from grain, hops and barley, sugars and some water. Basically just a whole meal in a bottle."

 

[RJP]

Funny, Eagle and Comair didn't provide lunch either. Maybe Great Lakes will give you a happy meal.

Even though Hugh Jorgan sugar coated his response to you in your other bitchy thread, the truth is that you've been nothing but a whining dickhead. Now that you've turned down the interview, we don't have to worry about listening to you complain for the next year.

This place is NOT for you. Stay on the mainland and stop bitching.

 

[English]

Eagle gave my group lunch when I interviewed there many moons ago. It was an all-day affair so it really was the right thing to do.

They also provided airline transportation to the interview.

 

[blackbox]

If you brought a sacked lunch you wouldn't get into it until the interview was all over and you were headed to the beach or back to your hotel. I agree with FedEx1, they were just giving you a heads up about them not providing lunch and not having anywhere close by to grab a quick bite. When i interviewed with Island Air they told me to plan for 2 days. I was in and out in about 2 hours. And i went through the whole process.

and about not working for WP, are you really gonna choose where to work based on whether or not the Company serves you a 5 dollar lunch during the interview?

 

[airludy]

Its the little things... How am I supposed to worry about finding a way to bring my lunch to the interview?? Take a taxi to subway and carry it around all day? I should bring in a double tuna salad sandwich and let it stink up the entire place. Come on! They cant order a damn pizza? Im interviewing the company, they are not just interviewing me.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

your gripes are very reasonable in the regular world...

most companies provide meals,snacks,water,coffee,transportation, etc...during interviews...

HOWEVER, look at the industry you are in -- guddam pilots PAY for the right to work at many companies...so of course they can care less about you or your meal - some dipshiit will take the job and be happy to do it for nothing. Bring a brown bag lunch....I love it!

You are right, if you demand normal, respectful treatment you dont belong in the regional airline arena.

Brown Bag...yeah with Vaseline and a welfare check inside.

 

[airludy]

If everyone stood up to these cheap ass companies we would all be making better money. I have a job lined up driving a truck at UPS and the pay and bennies blow away any regional. Im going back to school to get a more useful degree at night. The only way I will fly is if its for a decent corporation. Maybe I will get a little respect and be able to pay my bills and fly for a living. Screw the regionals

 

[skiddriver]

Funny, Eagle and Comair didn't provide lunch either. Maybe Great Lakes will give you a happy meal.

Comair and Piedmont both bought a ticket for me to travel to the interview, and provided lunch to go along with their job offer. Perhaps it depends on when you interviewed.

 

[English]

Its the little things... How am I supposed to worry about finding a way to bring my lunch to the interview?? Take a taxi to subway and carry it around all day? I should bring in a double tuna salad sandwich and let it stink up the entire place. Come on! They cant order a dang pizza? Im interviewing the company, they are not just interviewing me.

Island Air is set up for locals, not for mainlanders. They assume you live there and have a car.

 

[bruddahgoose]

Give me a break dude!
What don't you put a request for a limo too? I am sure glad I won't be flying with you here at WP especially with that kind of attitude!
Have a wonderful day!

 

[Dan Roman]

If everyone stood up to these cheap ass companies we would all be making better money. I have a job lined up driving a truck at UPS and the pay and bennies blow away any regional. Im going back to school to get a more useful degree at night. The only way I will fly is if its for a decent corporation. Maybe I will get a little respect and be able to pay my bills and fly for a living. Screw the regionals

If you are not getting repected it's because you don't deserve it. I know lots of people that started their career's at Island Air and are now quite successful, living in Hawaii, nice house and families, living the good life, etc. etc. Life is what YOU make of it. Looks like your a 1000 hour pilot that expects your career to be handed to you NOW. You have to start somewere and Island Air is a good place to start IF you want to be an airline pilot and live in Hawaii.
Enjoy your truck driving job and work hard at night school so you can get a nice office job. My guess is you'll be unhappy no matter what you do. You would definitly be unhappy in Hawaii. It's not for you.

 

[RJP]

Well said DR. The world needs truck drivers too. Too bad he's not coming to the interview, the pilot group got together and scrimped enough for his pizza. Just don't ask where it came from.

 

[RJP]

Maybe I will get a little respect and be able to pay my bills

While you'll probably get to pay you bills driving the big brown truck, be sure to let us know how the respect thing goes with those tight brown shorts.

 

[Trash8Mofo]

I have a job lined up driving a truck at UPS and the pay and bennies.........

Say no more! One question: Can you walk my resume in? I have extensive experience in carry hazmat, coolers full of fish, as well as guava juice.

 

[mdanno808]

What about hefty bags full of MacDonalds?

 

[airludy]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

 

[landlover]

Imagine showing up with a liquid lunch 40oz of beer in that brown bag.

"But this is lunch, it is made from grain, hops and barley, sugars and some water. Basically just a whole meal in a bottle."

this is the funniest post i've ever read!!!!!!!

 

[av8tortype]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

You need to make up your mind what it is you want to do ... then just do it. Doesn't sound like your "sacrifices" to date are any more or less than what we have all paid to get the opportunity to fly. Quit whining.

When I interviewed at WP and asked them for some water they pointed me in the direction of the bathroom around the corner. I didn't write a tome about it on this board. I smiled and thanked them.

Pass on Hawaii but keep looking stateside. And remember: never turn down a job you haven't been offered - meaning, interview-interview-interview.

 

[RJP]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

I almost hate to continue bashing you but it's just too easy.

Yes, we all have trust funds. Maybe you didn't get that hand-out in your interview package. Only trust fund kids can work at WP.

I applaud your decision to make money rather than just fly airplanes for peanuts. Get out of this industry and run far away.

But, SACRIFICES? You wanna talk sacrifices? You have no idea.

2000/900. Wow. Anything bigger than a light twin? Have you looked at the state of the industry lately? Jump in the majors forum and see how things are going at Delta or NWA. Your C-152 time will get you a job, but only a job flying for a peanut-paying regional or driving a truck. Get a grip on this fact.

60k in debt? Now the reason for your angst comes out. I'm curious if you went that far in debt AFTER 9/11. Didn't you see the writing on the wall? You should've used that money to get your chiropractor's license or real estate ticket. There's actual money to be made there.

And finally, don't tell us that we "don't get it". You're apparently not even flying at the regional level and yet you feel compelled to tell us the obvious fact that we're underpaid.

But honestly, good luck with the brown truck gig. I love "King of Queens".

 

[DetoXJ]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

Here is why. Supply and Demand. Nobody grows up and dreams of becoming a UPS Driver. Nobody is lining up to drive UPS trucks. Aviation schools are brain washing and pumping out new SJS youngsters left and right who could care less what entry level regional pay is. They just want the job and uniform. If you don't like what you are going to make entry level at a regional then may I suggest you go to UPS and make your 35K per year driving around a truck.

 

[airludy]

Yes I would rather drive a truck and have money than fly for food... Driving is temporary until I finish a useful degree. By the way I went to school before 9/11 and have 900 hours in a king air.... And yes I was brainwashed when I was 20 years old, but now I have grown up and economic reality has set in.