"Brown bag lunch" at Island Air

[mdanno808]

If not getting a lunch pissed him off so bad, that he felt the need to start a thread to b!tch about it, then he's in the wrong industry. Wait till he is given a 20% paycut, or loses his pension, or furloughed (again). These are things worth ranting about. I think what pissed everybody off about this thread is the fact that there are thousands of qualified pilot's out of work at this very minute who are scrambling to find work, and what's his name find's the need to bitch about something as trivial as not being provided with a meal at an interview.

 

[landlover]

If that's what you call "standing up for yourself", we've got to have a talk.

see my avatar for how I stand up for myself.

 

[airludy]

Its not just the lunch, man. Dont you guys see it. Have some f#$^ing pride and stand up for yourself. We deserve more than 8 dollars an hour to fly a plane full of passengers. You people are so brainwashed about "paying your dues" bullshit.. I didnt go to the interview for a few reasons

1. pay for your own ticket and hotel for interview ($1000)
2. 20k-40k a year in hawaii is a joke
3. pay for you own hotel during training
4. and yes the "bring your own brown bag lunch" email really was insulting

Im just trying to help you poor souls who are whoring yourself to this regional airline industry. Take some pride in yourself. This isnt McDonalds you are applying to. This is flying a multi-million dollar aircraft with dozens of people on board. You deserve a fair wage.

 

[House_X]

ahh, the entitlement generation....

the freedom we have allows you to sit in the pool for the job you want or not sit in the pool for the job you dont want.

I got furloughed from Indy and ended up at shuttleaqua. I can't brag too much about em'...but at least I'm not sitting in a pool and didn't have to pay $1000 for the interview. What's really sad, is shuttleaqua is the best game in town in terms of QOL, upgrades and pay. Island emailed me twice in the past 2 months to see if I wanted to interview...yeah, I turned it down because I'm broke and I have a family. From the desperation in the emails, I guess I'm not the only one to turn them down.

By the way...there is no way anyone can afford to live in Hawaii on those payscales...so I guess most of you guys have trust funds. I think the original poster has a good point...

 

[dash8driver]

nice try. you cant apply for jobs you know are low paying, then turn them down later because of some unrelated reason (like not getting a free lunch) and then claim you're standing up for yourself in regards to wages. the wages didnt change since you applied to the job. why didnt you stand up for yourself and not even send in an application?

read your original post again. sure you bitched about the pay, but it didnt stop you from joining the process. you were happy to not stand up for yourself until the final straw....the brown bag lunch.

like i said...save your gear shifting for your car....

Its not just the lunch, man. Dont you guys see it. Have some f#$^ing pride and stand up for yourself. We deserve more than 8 dollars an hour to fly a plane full of passengers. You people are so brainwashed about "paying your dues" bullshoot.. I didnt go to the interview for a few reasons

1. pay for your own ticket and hotel for interview ($1000)
2. 20k-40k a year in hawaii is a joke
3. pay for you own hotel during training
4. and yes the "bring your own brown bag lunch" email really was insulting

Im just trying to help you poor souls who are whoring yourself to this regional airline industry. Take some pride in yourself. This isnt McDonalds you are applying to. This is flying a multi-million dollar aircraft with dozens of people on board. You deserve a fair wage.

 

[dash8driver]

By the way...there is no way anyone can afford to live in Hawaii on those payscales...so I guess most of you guys have trust funds. I think the original poster has a good point...

yes you've figured it out. we're all a tribe of aaron spelling's love children.

hey, i'm all for people who dont want to work for certain wages or conditions, but crying on here over a free lunch is pathetic. whats next? crying because his company didnt buy him socks or underwear too? no, the company's not going to make you PB&J sandwiches like mommy used to and they're not going to buy you underwear and write your name in it. there are certain things you have to do in this world as an adult....feeding yourself is one of them.

btw.. there is no charge to interview. no one paid for an interview, get your facts straight.

 

[RJP]

1. pay for your own ticket and hotel for interview ($1000)
2. 20k-40k a year in hawaii is a joke
3. pay for you own hotel during training
4. and yes the "bring your own brown bag lunch" email really was insulting

Im just trying to help you poor souls who are whoring yourself to this regional airline industry. Take some pride in yourself. This isnt McDonalds you are applying to. This is flying a multi-million dollar aircraft with dozens of people on board. You deserve a fair wage.

1) If you currently had a job, you could jumpseat to Hawaii. It's FREE. 2) Yep, it is a joke. You waited until now to say so? 3) You said you've got a tent. Quit bitchin'. It's not even that hot right now. 4) We're over your lunch rant. You missed our "free pizza party" a couple weeks ago.

But seriously, thanks so much for standing up for us poor souls. Whoring ourselves in the regional airline industry is wrong. We should all resign and work at home depot. Blah, blah, blah.

I do appreciate your constant comebacks though. This thread gets my stamp of approval. 5 stars!

 

[Dan Roman]

Don't forget the Doctors that have to "whore" themselves out when they are paying their dues as interns. They don't even have time for a sack lunch. Or lawyers at the start of their career either. Anybody who has built a succesful business spent long hours "whoring" themselves out getting their career going. Airludy doesn't get it because he's "entitled" to the top of his profession NOW.
I got a feeling he is going to be real unhappy when the reality of corporate aviation hits him. I wonder how he'll like serving his passengers lunch?

 

[airludy]

OK you guys are right... I will just swallow my pride and bend over. Do you guys know of any airlines that I can pay for training? I have a wealthy uncle who may give me 30,000$ so I can get a job flying a cool jet. He understands I will only be making about 1200$ a month so I dont have to pay him back. Actually since I have been so arrogant to think I deserve to make a liviable wage, maybe I will just work for free at one of these regionals... I will tell them that at the interview.

 

[RJP]

I think this place can help you out.

https://www.radixx.cc/pacificwings/booking/CONTACTINFO.asp

 

[skydivinguy]

I think this place can help you out.

https://www.radixx.cc/pacificwings/booking/CONTACTINFO.asp

Sour grapes or what RJP???

 

[VanMan]

I think this place can help you out.

https://www.radixx.cc/pacificwings/booking/CONTACTINFO.asp

Notice how he tries to use anti PW sentiment to deflect criticism of his own doomed airline at every turn? How many spiteful little posts does it take to make you forget for a moment that Mesa is about to lay waste to all things Dash-8?

Must be difficult to accept that your odds of ever moving beyond Aloha's trash heap just got a whole lot longer. Is it really PW that makes you so angry, or is it the idea that all the dues you have paid at places like that won't do anything to help you now?

Kinda ironic that a single engine SIC has more job security (and better jumpseat priveleges) than you do. Don't they also pay their captains more than Island Scare?

 

[metrodriver808]

Don't forget the Doctors that have to "whore" themselves out when they are paying their dues as interns. They don't even have time for a sack lunch. Or lawyers at the start of their career either. Anybody who has built a succesful business spent long hours "whoring" themselves out getting their career going. Airludy doesn't get it because he's "entitled" to the top of his profession NOW.
I got a feeling he is going to be real unhappy when the reality of corporate aviation hits him. I wonder how he'll like serving his passengers lunch?

i've just about had it with this thread and everybody speaking so badly about whores. i'm gonna make a stand and hope to end all this whore bashing. whores are people too, if it wasn't for whores lot of people would never get laid. yeah sure they give you crabs, and other unpleasant maladies but who else can you give a dirty sanchez or cleveland steamer to. that's just my two cents

 

[Bob Loblaw]

i've just about had it with this thread and everybody speaking so badly about whores. i'm gonna make a stand and hope to end all this whore bashing. whores are people too, if it wasn't for whores lot of people would never get laid. yeah sure they give you crabs, and other unpleasant maladies but who else can you give a dirty sanchez or cleveland steamer to. that's just my two cents

You're definitely in better company in a room full of whores versus a room full of airline execs.

 

[FLYN4LVE]

Notice how he tries to use anti PW sentiment to deflect criticism of his own doomed airline at every turn? How many spiteful little posts does it take to make you forget for a moment that Mesa is about to lay waste to all things Dash-8?

Must be difficult to accept that your odds of ever moving beyond Aloha's trash heap just got a whole lot longer. Is it really PW that makes you so angry, or is it the idea that all the dues you have paid at places like that won't do anything to help you now?

Kinda ironic that a single engine SIC has more job security (and better jumpseat priveleges) than you do. Don't they also pay their captains more than Island Scare?

wow, jus beef already!

 

[dash8driver]

OK you guys are right... I will just swallow my pride and bend over. Do you guys know of any airlines that I can pay for training? I have a wealthy uncle who may give me 30,000$ so I can get a job flying a cool jet. He understands I will only be making about 1200$ a month so I dont have to pay him back. Actually since I have been so arrogant to think I deserve to make a liviable wage, maybe I will just work for free at one of these regionals... I will tell them that at the interview.

if it was about the pay, then you'd probably find more agreement here. sure we all know its hard to make it these days on regional pay, especially in hawaii. but seeing as how you were ok with the pay until you didnt get the free lunch... then you cry on here about the free lunch being the reason you're not going. after waking up the next morning and realize that its a stupid argument you try to backpeddal and say it was all about the pay in the first place. which we know isnt true, otherwise you wouldnt have applied.

are you related to john kerry by chance? you were for the pay at WP before you were against it?

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I no-$hit have a buddy who lives in a tent in Wahiawa, makes less than 20K/year, and I've never once heard him bitch about it.

 

[Dan Roman]

Does he fly for Mesa? ... and metro driver your right I shouldn't be dising whores, very insulting to the profession to mention them when talking about pilots!

 

[Mesa Beer]

Its not just the lunch, man. Dont you guys see it. Have some f#$^ing pride and stand up for yourself. We deserve more than 8 dollars an hour to fly a plane full of passengers. You people are so brainwashed about "paying your dues" bullshoot.. I didnt go to the interview for a few reasons

1. pay for your own ticket and hotel for interview ($1000)
2. 20k-40k a year in hawaii is a joke
3. pay for you own hotel during training
4. and yes the "bring your own brown bag lunch" email really was insulting

Im just trying to help you poor souls who are whoring yourself to this regional airline industry. Take some pride in yourself. This isnt McDonalds you are applying to. This is flying a multi-million dollar aircraft with dozens of people on board. You deserve a fair wage.

I'll buy you lunch, fly you for free to phx, best part you can feel my love almost every day over here too.

 

[Mesa Beer]

I no-$hit have a buddy who lives in a tent in Wahiawa, makes less than 20K/year, and I've never once heard him bitch about it.

You must be referring about one of my employees I presume? I'll give him a turkey and a warm cheap mesa beer right from my 3rd nipple tap this thanksgiving. Huge Organ? ummm. You sound like you need to work for me! I really like your name! If you really know how to use that thang i might make you my new chief pilot! Cumanawana try you out bra!