"Brown bag lunch" at Island Air

[RJP]

Well said DR. The world needs truck drivers too. Too bad he's not coming to the interview, the pilot group got together and scrimped enough for his pizza. Just don't ask where it came from.

 

[RJP]

Maybe I will get a little respect and be able to pay my bills

While you'll probably get to pay you bills driving the big brown truck, be sure to let us know how the respect thing goes with those tight brown shorts.

 

[Trash8Mofo]

I have a job lined up driving a truck at UPS and the pay and bennies.........

Say no more! One question: Can you walk my resume in? I have extensive experience in carry hazmat, coolers full of fish, as well as guava juice.

 

[mdanno808]

What about hefty bags full of MacDonalds?

 

[airludy]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

 

[landlover]

Imagine showing up with a liquid lunch 40oz of beer in that brown bag.

"But this is lunch, it is made from grain, hops and barley, sugars and some water. Basically just a whole meal in a bottle."

this is the funniest post i've ever read!!!!!!!

 

[av8tortype]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

You need to make up your mind what it is you want to do ... then just do it. Doesn't sound like your "sacrifices" to date are any more or less than what we have all paid to get the opportunity to fly. Quit whining.

When I interviewed at WP and asked them for some water they pointed me in the direction of the bathroom around the corner. I didn't write a tome about it on this board. I smiled and thanked them.

Pass on Hawaii but keep looking stateside. And remember: never turn down a job you haven't been offered - meaning, interview-interview-interview.

 

[RJP]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

I almost hate to continue bashing you but it's just too easy.

Yes, we all have trust funds. Maybe you didn't get that hand-out in your interview package. Only trust fund kids can work at WP.

I applaud your decision to make money rather than just fly airplanes for peanuts. Get out of this industry and run far away.

But, SACRIFICES? You wanna talk sacrifices? You have no idea.

2000/900. Wow. Anything bigger than a light twin? Have you looked at the state of the industry lately? Jump in the majors forum and see how things are going at Delta or NWA. Your C-152 time will get you a job, but only a job flying for a peanut-paying regional or driving a truck. Get a grip on this fact.

60k in debt? Now the reason for your angst comes out. I'm curious if you went that far in debt AFTER 9/11. Didn't you see the writing on the wall? You should've used that money to get your chiropractor's license or real estate ticket. There's actual money to be made there.

And finally, don't tell us that we "don't get it". You're apparently not even flying at the regional level and yet you feel compelled to tell us the obvious fact that we're underpaid.

But honestly, good luck with the brown truck gig. I love "King of Queens".

 

[DetoXJ]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

Here is why. Supply and Demand. Nobody grows up and dreams of becoming a UPS Driver. Nobody is lining up to drive UPS trucks. Aviation schools are brain washing and pumping out new SJS youngsters left and right who could care less what entry level regional pay is. They just want the job and uniform. If you don't like what you are going to make entry level at a regional then may I suggest you go to UPS and make your 35K per year driving around a truck.

 

[airludy]

Yes I would rather drive a truck and have money than fly for food... Driving is temporary until I finish a useful degree. By the way I went to school before 9/11 and have 900 hours in a king air.... And yes I was brainwashed when I was 20 years old, but now I have grown up and economic reality has set in.

 

[DetoXJ]

Yes I would rather drive a truck and have money than fly for food... Driving is temporary until I finish a useful degree. By the way I went to school before 9/11 and have 900 hours in a king air.... And yes I was brainwashed when I was 20 years old, but now I have grown up and economic reality has set in.

Good. Then quit your Bitzhein and move on. The airline industry wont miss you and will survive without your services.

 

[dash8driver]

you want a job or you want lunch? even when i interviewed and was hired at major corporations (non aviation and more $ than wp) i didnt get lunch. i went to interview for a job, not to see if they'd buy me a lunch.

you need to go find something else to do until you can get the bigger picture in your head. you sound like you want to be courted like a princess...its a pilot job.

to help lessen future suffering, you should include in your resume's line for "objectives": "to work for a company that will buy me lunch at the interview". dont forget to include in your cover letter that you require lunch and cold refreshments.

 

[dash8driver]

i guess UPS didnt buy you lunch at the interview either. now you're looking for a cfi job...

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=62681





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[RJP]

i guess UPS didnt buy you lunch at the interview either. now you're looking for a cfi job...

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=62681





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D8D, as always, nicely done!

 

[Hawaiiansmurf]

You Failed

How am I supposed to worry about finding a way to bring my lunch to the interview? Take a taxi to subway and carry it around all day?

This WAS part of the interview process. You FAILED the problem solving portion. You just saved them the time from asking, "What would you do if you were in a critical situation?"

Stay on the mainland, I don't want to hear about what is "owed" to you in this industry.

 

[airludy]

You guys have fun living in your mud huts and driving a beat up car.... I bet you pick up a lot of chicks on the 26k a year salary.

 

[slatsnfive]

You guys just dont get it....Why does a UPS driver start out at 35k a year and a airline pilot starts out at 18k ??? How can you live in hawaii on that? I guess all you guys have rich parents and can do it. I have bills to pay and making money is more important than flying airplanes. If a job comes around that pays me a wage I can live on,than I would be more than happy to take it. I have paid enough dues to deserve a 35k a year job. 2000 hours and 900 multi. Plus 60k for my flight training! I dont think its too much to ask. Im not expecting to fly a GV and make 100k a year. Just to be able to pay my bills. To be honest 35k a years is hardly enough for a mortgage and car payment.

Well brah, then quit your f*&%#@n bitchin and go drive your brown truck in your tight a*& brown shorts like RJP said.

One suggestion, and correct me if Im wrong, PW is currently hiring Captains, and from what I hear 55K to start. One thing great about that is that in HNL if I come across you struting around in your 4 stripes it will give me the opportunity to lock you in a suitcase.

What a donkey! thank heaven your disgruntled about coming out here, now we dont have to worry about your complaing a##! It was a set-up all along brah!

 

[Dan Roman]

Guys I think we all owe airludy an apology. I didn't realize he has NINE HUNDRED HOURS in a King Air! I'm a little suprised that Island Air didn't send a private jet to bring him to the interview.

 

[dash8driver]

You guys have fun living in your mud huts and driving a beat up car.... I bet you pick up a lot of chicks on the 26k a year salary.

why am i not suprised that you'd be one of those people that believe we live in grass shacks or mud huts?

well, since you were so sincere in wishing us well, let me return the favor.

have fun looking for students, dining on skittles when its payday and making tomato soup from McD's ketchup packets the rest of the time. have fun with your 4 cfi roommates in your 1 bedroom apartment. hopefully you'll be able to find a school that lets you wear captains uniforms, that way you and your friends can walk around pretending to be airline pilots.

please let us know when you find a cfi job that buys you lunch, we're very concerned about your future.

 

[airludy]

If 1000 of you had nuts like me, regionals would have to start paying us 35k a year to start. Supply and demand. Im really starting to believe in this SJS thing.