"Brown bag lunch" at Island Air

[dash8driver]

You never answered his question about how he's going to live in Hawaii on 20k a year.

we are not a colony of ass-wipers out here. he shouldnt need someone to tell him how to live. many other people have each found their own solution, its up ot him to find his.

I'm curious myself. Most likely it's by drudging out an existence of staying in a two bedroom crappy apartment with 5 other guys and eating ramen. How is that a step up?

there's no reason you cant do with with 5 lbfms instead.

With 2000 hours, and 900 king air, this guy actually could get a good job paying 35k as a SIC in a king air, so this job isn't for him. Should he figure that out after he pays his own way to Hawaii and puts himself up in a hotel for training? You can't jumpseat to Hawaii if you're not currently employed.

then wtf is he doing crying over not getting a free lunch? if he's such a stud pilot, he shouldnt have been applying in the first place. maybe he should let you be his career counselor.

 

[414Flyer]

If more people would start turning down low paying jobs, maybe we might actually start seeing decent pay in this industry.

 

[airludy]

Amen...There are too many geeks that just want to fly airplanes at a regional. They dont care about owning a house, decent car, saving money for retirement or nice vacations or probably even getting laid. Im looking hard for corporate jobs now, they pay a liviable wage. 20k on the mainland is a joke let alone Hawaii. Stop taking these low paying jobs and in a few years regionals pilots will make fair wages!

 

[dash8driver]

Amen...There are too many geeks that just want to fly airplanes at a regional. They dont care about owning a house, decent car, saving money for retirement or nice vacations or probably even getting laid. Im looking hard for corporate jobs now, they pay a liviable wage. 20k on the mainland is a joke let alone Hawaii. Stop taking these low paying jobs and in a few years regionals pilots will make fair wages!

what does not getting a free lunch have to do with any of this? this statement would be great if it wasnt that your chief complaint was not getting a free lunch.

i bought a house, two in fact. own a decent car, have money saved. i dont know how getting laid works into it...maybe you have to pay for it?

save the gear shifting for your car...

p.s. you say you're looking hard at corporate? what happened to the UPS truck driver job and the cfi jobs you were after? are you still looking for the elusive free lunch?

 

[av8tortype]

Amen...There are too many geeks that just want to fly airplanes at a regional. They dont care about owning a house, decent car, saving money for retirement or nice vacations or probably even getting laid. Im looking hard for corporate jobs now, they pay a liviable wage. 20k on the mainland is a joke let alone Hawaii. Stop taking these low paying jobs and in a few years regionals pilots will make fair wages!

Ditto what Dash said. Oh, and maybe next time put "getting laid" a little higher on your list of priorities lest you want us cheap a** pilots to think less of you.

 

[House_X]

Paying for airfare and hotel to fly a Dash-8 is bad enough...but, sitting in a hiring pool????....to fly a Dash-8????

You gottabe kiddin' me....?

 

[dash8driver]

whats funny is that according to his original post, he was apparently still gunning for the job in spite of the low pay. it was the free lunch that was the final straw.

does anyone else find it odd that now he's suddenly trying to be the poster boy for boycotting low paying jobs? why did he apply in the first place?

 

[dash8driver]

Paying for airfare and hotel to fly a Dash-8 is bad enough...but, sitting in a hiring pool????....to fly a Dash-8????

You gottabe kiddin' me....?

ahh, the entitlement generation....

the freedom we have allows you to sit in the pool for the job you want or not sit in the pool for the job you dont want.

 

[RJP]

If more people would start turning down low paying jobs, maybe we might actually start seeing decent pay in this industry.

Gee Yoda, do you forsee things getting better out here when Mesa comes in and undercuts everyone?

 

[RJP]

does anyone else find it odd that now he's suddenly trying to be the poster boy for boycotting low paying jobs? why did he apply in the first place?

I find this odd/amusing as well. NO MORE LOW-PAYING JOBS!

 

[skydivinguy]

I find this odd/amusing as well. NO MORE LOW-PAYING JOBS!

I'm tired of working for the man!!!

No, wiat a minute, I'm not. But a free lunch sounds good!

 

[mdanno808]

Lunch is for pussies.

 

[aspire]

airludy,

Why did you apply for this job in the first place? I guess you just wanted to lower the bar like all the rest of us.... until of course you found our that there was no free lunch.

 

[Socalplt]

With 60K in debt his payments are probably more than the monthly pay.

 

[landlover]

I agree with labbats and airlundy not that any of you guys care. Why are you drinking the Hate-o-rade when he expressed his feelings for not being treated to his own standards. He declined his interview for what ever reason, so what? He is just doing himself a favor. To all that replied with a negative comment, do I sense some envy for standing up for one's self?

Here comes the pain train next stop landlover!!!

 

[landlover]

With 60K in debt his payments are probably more than the monthly pay.

If he borrowed from uncle Key i'd say about 520 a month.

 

[taters]

Delta Connection Academy provides you lunch. So there good to work for...

 

[taters]

Delta Connection Academy provides you lunch. So there good to work for. .................

 

[PC12Cowboy]

Hmmmmmm...I think that someone is suffering form the SJS/I wert to embry and you owe me a job...F*%K.....I'm still instructing and flying a PC12 and scraping by...looking fo the next step, as I have completely exhausted the trust fund and still need multi to hit 200 total...and your whining about a bag lunch. stop at subway and buy a F&*()&^# sandwich and go to the interveiw...I know someone who got dropped at a SKW interveiw because he was to aggressive in the lunch line
......
So go back to arizona and fly some more VFR time in the pattern...united is waiting
COWBOY

 

[RJP]

I agree with labbats and airlundy not that any of you guys care. Why are you drinking the Hate-o-rade when he expressed his feelings for not being treated to his own standards. He declined his interview for what ever reason, so what? He is just doing himself a favor. To all that replied with a negative comment, do I sense some envy for standing up for one's self?

If that's what you call "standing up for yourself", we've got to have a talk.

 

[mdanno808]

If not getting a lunch pissed him off so bad, that he felt the need to start a thread to b!tch about it, then he's in the wrong industry. Wait till he is given a 20% paycut, or loses his pension, or furloughed (again). These are things worth ranting about. I think what pissed everybody off about this thread is the fact that there are thousands of qualified pilot's out of work at this very minute who are scrambling to find work, and what's his name find's the need to bitch about something as trivial as not being provided with a meal at an interview.

 

[landlover]

If that's what you call "standing up for yourself", we've got to have a talk.

see my avatar for how I stand up for myself.

 

[airludy]

Its not just the lunch, man. Dont you guys see it. Have some f#$^ing pride and stand up for yourself. We deserve more than 8 dollars an hour to fly a plane full of passengers. You people are so brainwashed about "paying your dues" bullshit.. I didnt go to the interview for a few reasons

1. pay for your own ticket and hotel for interview ($1000)
2. 20k-40k a year in hawaii is a joke
3. pay for you own hotel during training
4. and yes the "bring your own brown bag lunch" email really was insulting

Im just trying to help you poor souls who are whoring yourself to this regional airline industry. Take some pride in yourself. This isnt McDonalds you are applying to. This is flying a multi-million dollar aircraft with dozens of people on board. You deserve a fair wage.

 

[House_X]

ahh, the entitlement generation....

the freedom we have allows you to sit in the pool for the job you want or not sit in the pool for the job you dont want.

I got furloughed from Indy and ended up at shuttleaqua. I can't brag too much about em'...but at least I'm not sitting in a pool and didn't have to pay $1000 for the interview. What's really sad, is shuttleaqua is the best game in town in terms of QOL, upgrades and pay. Island emailed me twice in the past 2 months to see if I wanted to interview...yeah, I turned it down because I'm broke and I have a family. From the desperation in the emails, I guess I'm not the only one to turn them down.

By the way...there is no way anyone can afford to live in Hawaii on those payscales...so I guess most of you guys have trust funds. I think the original poster has a good point...

 

[dash8driver]

nice try. you cant apply for jobs you know are low paying, then turn them down later because of some unrelated reason (like not getting a free lunch) and then claim you're standing up for yourself in regards to wages. the wages didnt change since you applied to the job. why didnt you stand up for yourself and not even send in an application?

read your original post again. sure you bitched about the pay, but it didnt stop you from joining the process. you were happy to not stand up for yourself until the final straw....the brown bag lunch.

like i said...save your gear shifting for your car....

Its not just the lunch, man. Dont you guys see it. Have some f#$^ing pride and stand up for yourself. We deserve more than 8 dollars an hour to fly a plane full of passengers. You people are so brainwashed about "paying your dues" bullshoot.. I didnt go to the interview for a few reasons

1. pay for your own ticket and hotel for interview ($1000)
2. 20k-40k a year in hawaii is a joke
3. pay for you own hotel during training
4. and yes the "bring your own brown bag lunch" email really was insulting

Im just trying to help you poor souls who are whoring yourself to this regional airline industry. Take some pride in yourself. This isnt McDonalds you are applying to. This is flying a multi-million dollar aircraft with dozens of people on board. You deserve a fair wage.

 

[dash8driver]

By the way...there is no way anyone can afford to live in Hawaii on those payscales...so I guess most of you guys have trust funds. I think the original poster has a good point...

yes you've figured it out. we're all a tribe of aaron spelling's love children.

hey, i'm all for people who dont want to work for certain wages or conditions, but crying on here over a free lunch is pathetic. whats next? crying because his company didnt buy him socks or underwear too? no, the company's not going to make you PB&J sandwiches like mommy used to and they're not going to buy you underwear and write your name in it. there are certain things you have to do in this world as an adult....feeding yourself is one of them.

btw.. there is no charge to interview. no one paid for an interview, get your facts straight.

 

[RJP]

1. pay for your own ticket and hotel for interview ($1000)
2. 20k-40k a year in hawaii is a joke
3. pay for you own hotel during training
4. and yes the "bring your own brown bag lunch" email really was insulting

Im just trying to help you poor souls who are whoring yourself to this regional airline industry. Take some pride in yourself. This isnt McDonalds you are applying to. This is flying a multi-million dollar aircraft with dozens of people on board. You deserve a fair wage.

1) If you currently had a job, you could jumpseat to Hawaii. It's FREE. 2) Yep, it is a joke. You waited until now to say so? 3) You said you've got a tent. Quit bitchin'. It's not even that hot right now. 4) We're over your lunch rant. You missed our "free pizza party" a couple weeks ago.

But seriously, thanks so much for standing up for us poor souls. Whoring ourselves in the regional airline industry is wrong. We should all resign and work at home depot. Blah, blah, blah.

I do appreciate your constant comebacks though. This thread gets my stamp of approval. 5 stars!

 

[Dan Roman]

Don't forget the Doctors that have to "whore" themselves out when they are paying their dues as interns. They don't even have time for a sack lunch. Or lawyers at the start of their career either. Anybody who has built a succesful business spent long hours "whoring" themselves out getting their career going. Airludy doesn't get it because he's "entitled" to the top of his profession NOW.
I got a feeling he is going to be real unhappy when the reality of corporate aviation hits him. I wonder how he'll like serving his passengers lunch?

 

[airludy]

OK you guys are right... I will just swallow my pride and bend over. Do you guys know of any airlines that I can pay for training? I have a wealthy uncle who may give me 30,000$ so I can get a job flying a cool jet. He understands I will only be making about 1200$ a month so I dont have to pay him back. Actually since I have been so arrogant to think I deserve to make a liviable wage, maybe I will just work for free at one of these regionals... I will tell them that at the interview.

 

[RJP]

I think this place can help you out.

https://www.radixx.cc/pacificwings/booking/CONTACTINFO.asp