Attention Tsa Jumpseat Under Attack

[ricfa78]

[It's interesting that neither one of you can point out where I'm factually incorrect. Like I said before, go ahead and give the FAA a call asking them to back you up on your little jumpseat war. Be sure to let me me what they tell you. My guess would be something along the lines of, "if you're really get that uncomfortable so easily you are way too immature to command a jet aircraft carrying 50 paying passengers...."[/quote]h25b

It's not that our pilots are immature. They are the ones getting fired or suspended by TSA management because they say anything negative to the hojets crews. Actually, the tsa guy's don't even have to say anything negative to you directly, just in your presence. If you don't like what you hear, you run and cry to your "separate" management and try to get the offending party fired. If you weren't such whiney little b!tches maybe this whole jumpseat fiasco would have never started. Now you are in the back with me, and if I notice your ID, I'm letting the CA know and then they can decide whether or not you can stay. Just because you don't say hello to the crew when you walk on (like most decent nonrevs do) doesn't mean the FA in the back is going to let you slide when there is so much going on right now.

 

[f/o(forever)]

can't post

 

[f/o(forever)]

h25b

your turn is coming tool!!

 

[millhouse21]

Actually, the bad things don't even have to be said in the presence of the ************************* puke. All it takes is a report that you referred to one of them in a derogatory way ("I think there might be a ************************* asshole on this plane is an example") and you are history. These are definitely separate companys.

 

[Economy101]

FYI-
A small group of pilots referred to as the “boys club” is threatening a recall of the MEC Chairman. The motivation for this is speculative, however, this “boys club“, a small group of pilots who live and golf together, believes the MEC Chairman stands between the TSA pilot group and the GJ flying. The “boys club” has initiated their efforts on behalf of management for some future promise of individual gain in exchange for the GJ flying. A deal with the devil at the expense of the TSA pilot group. The “boys club” involved in organizing this coup includes a flight manager and several check airmen one of which is a MEC representative. You may ask, what motivates management to try to get a deal? GJ is not doing well, it is in jeopardy. Except for a small percentage of the pilot group who are truly lost, the TSA pilots stands strong with the MEC Chairman.

Ren,
I don't know who the sam hell you think you are....but you don't have the slightest clue as to what you're talking about. I know all of those guys personally and they are all stand up guys. I know TSA MEC Chairman personally and he is a stand up guy. All that happened was two guys talked to our MEC Chair and said you did a great job in the past, we just think labor relations might be too strained for DM to be effective. They then asked if he would consider resigning. That's it! Don't get on this board or any board and try to slander and piss all over guys that have worked their azzes off to get where they are today. I ought to come over and slap the ever loving schit out of you for even posting that. As a dues paying member of ALPA, I have a right to ask my MEC Chair any question, anytime. They are not planning a coup as you'd like to think. They expressed their opinions, some agree and some don't. DM took the question like a man and everybody is moving on. If you actually think they have something planned to rundown this MEC and think they would be ignorant enough to even believe that managment would offer anything for the resignation of DM, I need a hit of what you've been smoking. The "boys club" are my boys! DM is my "boy!" PISS OFF!!!

 

[Frank Bama]

My hat's off to the Trans States MEC and everything that they have done for us. Without 'um we're in a bigger world of $hit than we are now.

Whenever I see a Gayjet pilot I have to wonder, I didn't know spineless people could walk upright.

 

[ATTCS]

This is a post I put on another board. And the response from someone apparently with *************************. It took a few days for me to quit laughing. Can they comprehend any language? It doesn't seem to me they understand English...

It was the ARTCC that called me. I had never said anything about it to anyone...except when they called me.



Old Goat wrote:
So here we can say our heartfelt opinions of *************************. Now that is kinda nice. But not what we will hear about them.

Incidently, ************************* pilots, ORD ARTCC knows who was blocking my transmissions to them a few weeks ago. I was the only Waterski pilot on frequency then. And there was only one *************************...

Also, I was called at my home by a center controller I knew years ago about this. It does seem the call sign 'Gateway' is not too popular among the controller force either.


I suggest that you get off your high horse. A controllers job is to give directions so that the plane can land safely at its destination. They could care less if it is a American 767 or a Go-Jets plane. They controll the airspace you guys fly the plane. What are you 13 or something, Get over it!

 

[Blucher]

Placement?

Can anyone tell me why this thread is on top of all the others? I thought they were lined up based on latest post. What gives?

-Blucher

 

[Tarzan]

It's called a sticky. Admin gives the designation and it remains up top. Probably go away in a short while once the new revision to the GOM comes out.

 

[flyer172r]

I understand your analogy but just don't agree. I've signed for many aircraft in my career and always considered it to belong to the company.

I got a a feeling it's an ego thing coming from the younger generation pilot flying Barbie Jets around.

Good day to ya.:beer:

Well if you want to argue semantics then technically it's not the company's airplane either. In many (most?) cases the airplane belongs to some bank and is leased back to the company. It's just quicker to say "my airplane" than say "the airplane I'm currently responsible for."

 

[incubus]

some are AA's planes too. embarrassing.

 

[flyer172r]

<sigh> go back, read my post, notice I said "many" not "all"

I don't like that situation any more than the next guy, but I'm not gonna risk my job by refusing to fly an airplane because I don't like how it came to be at my airline. Take some comfort in the fact that they're the oldest, most worn-out, tired planes around.

If the stars align properly and TSA pilots and Eagle pilots try to find a way to resolve the situation to everyone's benefit, I'll be right there trying to help out.

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

The G.O.M. is in the process of reflecting a new change to allow other airlines back into our jumpseat; should be out in a few days.

PtP

 

[Kugelblitz]

Hulas truly sucks (or however you spell his sh#t name)

FYI-
A small group of pilots referred to as the “boys club” is threatening a recall of the MEC Chairman. The motivation for this is speculative, however, this “boys club“, a small group of pilots who live and golf together, believes the MEC Chairman stands between the TSA pilot group and the GJ flying. The “boys club” has initiated their efforts on behalf of management for some future promise of individual gain in exchange for the GJ flying. A deal with the devil at the expense of the TSA pilot group. The “boys club” involved in organizing this coup includes a flight manager and several check airmen one of which is a MEC representative. You may ask, what motivates management to try to get a deal? GJ is not doing well, it is in jeopardy. Except for a small percentage of the pilot group who are truly lost, the TSA pilots stands strong with the MEC Chairman.

That is so typical of the place. I worked there 11 years ago and it was as deplorable then as it is now. The company bread a culture of backstabbing. We had management pilots firing people left and right for not passing checkrides that they couldn't pass themselves. It used to be that certain people in management gave each other recurrent checkrides.

How a company that despises its' own employees so much and can stay in business is beyond me. It may have something to do with Hulas' egalitarian status within the Hindu community.

For those of you who only know TSA, the most of the industry doesn't operate that way. TSA is the worst possible place one could ever be stuck, and you all have my sincere sympathy.

 

[great cornholio]

The G.O.M. is in the process of reflecting a new change to allow other airlines back into our jumpseat; should be out in a few days.

PtP

Is there some kind of memo out about this good news yet??? Or as always do they try to keep the good stuff quite and only post the bad stuff for us to see?

 

[Reebo]

Thanks to all of you codeshare partners (UA, UAX, AA, Eagle, Connection, US EAST and US Express) who have continued to allow TSA pilots in your cockpit. The good news is the jumpseat band is over. Any TSA captains flying this weekend needing to verify can call MW to get approval. His number is in the G.O.M. Official word should be out next week.

 

[Lav Service]

It is not OUR problem to fix, why don't you handle the problem. As for your comment of "maybe after a few mainline guys get kicked out of the jumpseat", I take it you are no longer allowed to ride on UAL or AA jumpseats? If you still are, I am not sure how long that is going to last, although I don't find it huge problem as your flights are more often weight restricted and leave non revs behind, as well as revenue paying passengers on occasion.

AA

Maybe you don't think its your fight today. Just you wait buckeroo. I sincerely wish the best for your company, however, if they need cash bad enough.....well, you'll see what happens. NW didn't care either, now they're in a battle to save their flying from "Newco." The model was at ************************* first. Of course should this happen to you, AA, I'll simply respond "It is not OUR problem to fix, why don't you handle the problem." I'd say that would be appropriate. Pharisee.

 

[613ka]

The new VARS message states that this issue has been resolved and "Other Airline" Jumpseaters will be allowed back in the cockpit very soon.

 

[Shrek]

Just waiting on the GOM revision..........the jumpseat is BACK

 

[Mr Biggelsworth]

Oh yeah baby..............