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surveypilot said:
Anybody that goes to work for an aviation company expecting to see a dime from any profit sharing plan is an idiot.
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Like the guys at Southwest when it was a start up, right? what a bunch of losers those guys were. :rolleyes:

on the other hand, depending on your definition of "expecting" you may have a point. I wouldn't take a loan out against a profit sharing check that i didnt have in my hand any more than I would leave a current aviation job for some other company that said they were going to get a big shiny plane one day and I might be able to fly it.
 
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So....you are telling the world that you got several Profit-Sharing checks....yet you guys have never made a Profit? OK.....I'll step back and let this one simmer....LOLOLOL
 
hangarrat said:
I did receive several profit sharing checks in my first couple years here. If hazmat was here for 6 years as a pilot then he got several of them too. They were discontinued about the time Avantair became a publicly traded company. My guess is it had to do with the difference in the way that public companies are required to report the finances. I am betting the CEO has a plan. Watching the financials, I would say that it may not be long now. In the mean time, I get a check every pay day and am fortunate enough to not have to worry about a furlough, I fly a great aircraft, I enjoy the passengers and crew I fly with and most of the overnight locations.

As posted on another thread:


So Flame On BTSI, if thats what makes you happy.

btw, i didnt look up the dictionary term, i figure its on FlightInfo so it has to be right :laugh:
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God, I really despise fueling BTDI. HR, you are not quite correct on the profit sharing in the beginning. There were annual bonuses of $3000 per year, but they were discontinued when the payscale was adjusted in '06. BTDI, 5th year FO pay is $48k. If you are going to slam us, at least use the correct data.
 
corpflunkie said:
God, I really despise fueling BTDI. HR, you are not quite correct on the profit sharing in the beginning. There were annual bonuses of $3000 per year, but they were discontinued when the payscale was adjusted in '06. BTDI, 5th year FO pay is $48k. If you are going to slam us, at least use the correct data.
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I got no paperwork from back then to prove it but I am pretty sure they were called Profit Sharing early on. The last check we recieved before we went public in 2006 was called a Pilot Bonus, I think that was because no other department but pilots got one.

I could be wrong, point is, there was a bonus and we are told there will be one again. I am good with that. Things keep getting better here and in this economy, I think we are the lucky ones.
 
OK...you 2 Avantair pilots are now disagreeing with each other on whether or not you get Profit-Sharing Checks. My work is done here....LOL.
 
BeenThereDoneIt said:
OK...you 2 Avantair pilots are now disagreeing with each other on whether or not you get Profit-Sharing Checks. My work is done here....LOL.
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Wow dude, you really are an A$$. I am guessing that CorpFlunkie, HangarRat and many others will not disagree to that.

Glad your work is done. Now go away.
 
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Takeoffroll said:
Wow dude, you really are an A$$. I am guessing that CorpFlunkie, HangarRat and many others will not disagree to that.

Glad your work is done. Now go away.
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What he said
 
^^sorry but BTDI, you really need to get a life instead of bashing your former company on here...i mean, really??? come on man! get a girlfriend/wife or something and let the people who have something to contribute on here contribute. it's really annoying to keep reading through your bitter past job posting on here.
 
86...I'll consider your words of wisdom......just, not right now. :) Some people appreciate the truth, some like being lied to. Your position is clear. For God's sake, these people claimed they hired pilots in 2009. LOLOLOLOL
 
Give it up guys, he's a pathological liar, and pathetic beyond redemption. It's like trying to talk to a toilet.
 
Do ANY of you work today? :)

Look, let me try to cheer you guys up. Your company losses have been decreasing rapidly over the past few years. If you are able to keep up that pace, you will eventually become profitable. That is excellent news!

You might hit a brick wall because you have committed to Piaggio to buy 50 new planes in the next 3 years. You will have to come up with cash or financing in the tune of over $300,000,000. Seems like a stretch to me, but maybe it will happen. In this economy the banks aren't lending very much. Lets assume that you DO buy those planes per Contract. That will certainly enlighten the "ASSETS" column of your books, but it will also go into the "LIABILITIES" column as well as the "INTEREST" column. If you are paying interest on another $300,000,000 worth of loans.....well......PROFIT won't exist. It's just math, fellas.

If you fail to honor that Contract, you will pay penalties and take a hit like you did with the jets that you ended up not buying.

Regardless, we all wish you guys the best!
 
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DelphinDriver said:
BDTI gets told to S.T.F.U. on airline pilot central.... http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fractional/47814-place-has-died.html
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I like your signature line -"Empty wagons rattle the loudest " signed like a true cowboy.

Metallica had a song with a similar theme in one of their songs:

My Friend Of Misery

[HETFIELD/ULRICH/NEWSTED]

You just stood there screaming
Fearing no one was listening to you
They say the empty can rattles the most
The sound of your voice must soothe you
Hearing only what you want to hear
And knowing only what you've heard
You you're smothered in tragedy
You're out to save the world

Misery
You insist that the weight of the world
Should be on your shoulders
Misery
There's much more to life than what you see
My friend of misery

You still stood there screaming
No one caring about these words you tell
My friend before your voice is gone
One man's fun is another's hell
These times are sent to try men's souls
But something's wrong with all you see
You you'll take it on all yourself
Remember, misery loves company

Misery
You insist that the weight of the world
Should be on your shoulders
Misery
There's much more to life than what you see
My friend of misery

You just stood there screaming
My friend of misery


kinda fitting for this guy
 
hangarrat said:
I like your signature line -"Empty wagons rattle the loudest " signed like a true cowboy.

Metallica had a song with a similar theme in one of their songs:

My Friend Of Misery

[HETFIELD/ULRICH/NEWSTED]

You just stood there screaming
Fearing no one was listening to you
They say the empty can rattles the most
The sound of your voice must soothe you
Hearing only what you want to hear
And knowing only what you've heard
You you're smothered in tragedy
You're out to save the world

Misery
You insist that the weight of the world
Should be on your shoulders
Misery
There's much more to life than what you see
My friend of misery

You still stood there screaming
No one caring about these words you tell
My friend before your voice is gone
One man's fun is another's hell
These times are sent to try men's souls
But something's wrong with all you see
You you'll take it on all yourself
Remember, misery loves company

Misery
You insist that the weight of the world
Should be on your shoulders
Misery
There's much more to life than what you see
My friend of misery

You just stood there screaming
My friend of misery


kinda fitting for this guy
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So true, and ya just gotta love Metallica! Let's change his name to MFOM
 
"Get in the ring"
Guns 'n' Roses
:angryfire
 
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DelphinDriver said:
So true, and ya just gotta love Metallica! Let's change his name to MFOM
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you gotta help me with that one - MFOM?

mainiac said:
"Get in the ring"
Guns 'n' Roses
:angryfire
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Now Thats one angry song - very angry... :angryfire some one was having a bad day when they wrote that one!

and now back to Metallica:

Holier Than Thou

[HETFIELD/ULRICH]

No more!
The craps rolls out your mouth again
Haven't changed, your brain is still gelatin
Little whispers circle around your head
Why don't you worry about yourself instead

Who are you? where ya been? where ya from?
Gossip is burning on the tip of your tongue
You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

Holier than thou - You are
Holier than thou - You are

You know not

Before you judge me take a look at you
Can't you find something better to do
Point the finger, slow to understand
Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand

It's not who you are it's who you know
Others lives are the basis of your own
Burn your bridges build them back with wealth
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

Holier than thou - You are
Holier than thou - You are

You know not
another fitting song

I gotta stop listening to the Black Album and get back to the old school metallica. ooooh yeah!!!
 
Whine Lover said:
And now for something completely different ( and I believe one of the original intents of this thread ? ) :

Has Avantair interviewed, hired, or started a class after opening the window for apps. last November?

Thanks.

YKMKR
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I will call a few people and find out the latest.
 
So there you go. It went into the yellow by a smidge inflight and you got it fixed. You certianly didn't launch again with it in the yellow or this whole discussion would be about you intentionally busting aircraft limitations.

You say Avantair pushed you to fly. Okay, how? By asking if it's flyable? The answer in that case is no. Were you diciplined for getting it fixed? Called on the carpet? Fired? I'm guessing not.

There's no problem here. The system worked and was both legal and safe. Heck, I guess your avatar is a statement to the efficiencies of Avantair working a minor problem.

It's weird, from all your posts I thought you didn't like Avantair.

Fly Safe,
gp
 
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Glass......were you in the cockpit with us? Yellow in the air....green on the ground after the oil cooled down.....yellow in the air next time....green on the ground after it cooled again. Why is this so complicated for you?
 

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