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The only softball you have hit so far is your admittance that unless you were 61 years old, you made a mistake by not flowing up. Looking at today's financials for your company and the legacy, it looks like hindsight is 20/20. Wow, some people were myopic indeed, unless they were 61 at the time.....

Bye Bye---General Clown

I know it's been a while since elementary school but 65-7 = 58 or 61-10= 55... 65-4 would equal 61... so where are you getting the four from? Review post #78 maybe where I made multiple references to the 7-10 year timeline... I pretty sure I talked about a 5 year timeline too somewhere back there. The problem remains that I can't see where you are getting 4 years from.

Can't read or do math can you? Take off your shoes if it helps.

You are a very strange and handicapped person.
 
This from a 50 year old Saab FO. Do you have a love interest way up in International Falls? What's his name?


Bye Bye---General Lee

Wrong ASSumption again General. I wear the same wings that you do...well at least the same ones you claim to wear. I got no beef with you sir but you really need to get a life and stop being such a pompus a$$. You really are a patethic individual who is trying to compensate for something here. Enjoy your lonely life on FI.
 
I am not talking about the others, I am talking about the flow up to Delta, not NWA that was beforehand, the last one. Other airlines probably had bad ones, and I am not familiar with those, but I am with the one that was offered recently (a year or so ago?). That was a perfect opportunity for guys to bail from Mesaba, especially with the known fact that there is a huge amount of retirements coming up here. The flow up included NO INTERVIEW, NO MEDICAL, NO PSYCH EVAL, nothing but a class date. A VERY VERY GOOD DEAL, and some of you guys at Mesaba turned it down! And then it wasn't passed on to anyone else, you couldn't just pass it along until someone took it. Some may have been worried about being furloughed possibly down the road, but there is still a flown down (if necessary) to Compass, which would have been available, to their Captain seats. (Still can't figure out why the Mesaba flow down slots were taken, that is a bit ridiculous, since some people DID take the flow up.....) Now Delta is making money, and retirements are coming up, and there was no interview/medical/tests etc. MSP and DTW were junior bases (some got NYC, but within a bid they could go back to MSP/DTW most likely) All I can say is WOW. Unbelievable



Bye Bye---General Lee

General, again you don't know the facts so here ya go. Only 27 pilots have flowed to Delta post merger. The most junior pilot with the chance to flow Delta wasn't even in the top 100 because most of those pilots bypassed the NWA flow and it's a one shot deal. Once you pass up the flow you can't rebid it. Pilot #127 was the most junior pilot eligable for flow to DAL and they only had to go down the list 30 #'s to get the 27 so only a few passed it up. 2 of them have a lot of family $$$ / Sugar Mommas and I'm not sure about the other one. As far as the next 50 in line only a few will pass it up as they more junior and much much younger than the top 100. Everyone in the top 100 who passed it up is making $100K-$125K, 18 days off, 4 weeks vacation, 125% 401K match, no commute. Deal with it GL, they are more than content where they are at.
 
Everyone in the top 100 who passed it up is making $100K-$125K, 18 days off, 4 weeks vacation, 125% 401K match, no commute. Deal with it GL, they are more than content where they are at.

Time will tell if that was a good decision. PNCL has a far greater chance of being shuttered in the next 5+ years than NWA/DAL does.
 
Time will tell if that was a good decision. PNCL has a far greater chance of being shuttered in the next 5+ years than NWA/DAL does.

Even if DAL parks all the 200's PNCL will still have 50ish 900's and I don't see those planes going anywhere for a long time and that is more than enough to keep the top 100 pilots content. I'm not saying there isn't a rough road ahead for you guys but the discussion here is about the top 100 pilots and I don't see much downside for those guys/gals.
 
yup, I have seem a lot of concern about the top 100 mesaba guys. I am glad they get their cake and eat it too.
 
I just read DL owns all 41 of Mesaba's CR9s, and it is unlikely they will come down on their lease payment reduction requests from PNCL (as read in yesterday's Aviation Daily web page article from Aviation Week). What would prevent DL from just transferring those CR9s to Gojets if they got fed up enough with PNCL? Couldn't they do that just like the CR7s from ASA and Skywest? What would those senior Mesaba guys do then if that were ever to happen? I hope it doesn't, but there's no telling if it ever would. Never get too comfortable, I learned that too.


Godspeed!


OYS
 
You have to start somewhere, right? Oh, you expect the same pay and probably the same seat......within 3 years you are close to make the same, and at 5 years you pass it. You can also move up or down aircraft types, which can increase your pay depending on whether or not you are a line holder or not. If you are 61 years old, then yeah, maybe it wasn't a good move to flow up. If you were younger, that might have been a mistake. Also, if you are that old, you might be "used to" your schedule, the old guy driving the van in Alpena, and you do know the ATC freqs by heart. Anything new might be difficult. That's understandable.



Bye Bye---General Lee
OK we get it, your GOD. You gotta be the biggest fukkin retard on this planet. 16000 post on a web board and you claim to be a HEAVY driver. Most heavy drivers I know don't even know this website exist. Someone should tell your mom to limit your internet time. 16000 post!!!! How can you possibly have a job. I don't wish bad things on to many people but I really hopen you get hit by a very big truck. Mr Online GUY!!!!(Brad Paisley) Fukkin idiot.
 
Anybody want to know what DAL can do, check out Freedum Airlines....
They can do almost anything they want.
 
OK we get it, your GOD. You gotta be the biggest fukkin retard on this planet. 16000 post on a web board and you claim to be a HEAVY driver. Most heavy drivers I know don't even know this website exist. Someone should tell your mom to limit your internet time. 16000 post!!!! How can you possibly have a job. I don't wish bad things on to many people but I really hopen you get hit by a very big truck. Mr Online GUY!!!!(Brad Paisley) Fukkin idiot.

Your airline possibly going bankrupt for the second time is really stressing you out. There are plenty of heavy drivers on this website, all aviation enthusiasts. Instead of taking out your frustrations on GL, you may want to instead go buy a twelve pack of Schlitz and just mellow out, knowing you are just along for the ride. Good luck to you.


Godspeed!


OYS
 

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