JetBlue class dates

[Fins Up]

No deflections, just answer the questions. You work at a steep discount to major airline peers. I'm pointing out glaring facts to you and you'd like to mask your embarrassment with righteous indignation? That makes sense, right? I've got an idea, there's a court jester named Yates running for PVC in silo 7, elect that neophyte clusterfvck and then I can really make fun of you for nailing your own coffin shut.

Tiered were questions in there? Your posts are like s screaming two year old in the grocery store. Nobody's interested in why he's screaming, they just want him to settle down.

If it clears things up any:
I'd like a bigger piece of the pie.
We need a union.
I don't get to vote in this election (my silo is already filled.

The most embarrassing thing here mac is that you're one of us.

 

[johnsonrod]

How is this discussion related to upcoming Jet Blue class dates????

Can anyone say THREAD DRIFT?

 

[Fins Up]

Thread drift.

 

[GuinessGuy]

Yeah.....this was an informative thread.....back to the point......
For calender yr 12, they want two interview sessions per month.
PINS dudes are expecting to be very busy flushing through application database for quality applicants to up channel to HR for interview sessions.
.....white shirts and hats now......

 

[GuinessGuy]

Moderator, we are trying to steer this back to the thread topic....we are getting good info out to a lot of folks......we'll keep it on point....but will have some tangents....
And in walks Fifty......

 

[fifty30retard]

Tiered were questions in there? Your posts are like s screaming two year old in the grocery store. Nobody's interested in why he's screaming, they just want him to settle down.

If it clears things up any:
I'd like a bigger piece of the pie.
We need a union.
I don't get to vote in this election (my silo is already filled.

The most embarrassing thing here mac is that you're one of us.

Screaming? No just presenting the fact that this is not a "good place to work". Having pizza parties instead of investing in your front line employees, pilots, makes for incompetent managers, poor compensation, work rules, and retirement. Those categories define your job in a bad light. Pointing this out and your "culture" of diminishing pilots to be crewmembers and lower pilot expectations, is not screaming.

If you want competent representation, where were you during the JAOC campaign?

 

[Cavity]

Unofficial new hire #'s as of this afternoon(obviously subject to change), @ 35 more before the end of 2011 and "atleast" 250 next year.

 

[Fins Up]

Screaming? No just presenting the fact that this is not a "good place to work". Having pizza parties instead of investing in your front line employees, pilots, makes for incompetent managers, poor compensation, work rules, and retirement. Those categories define your job in a bad light. Pointing this out and your "culture" of diminishing pilots to be crewmembers and lower pilot expectations, is not screaming.

If you want competent representation, where were you during the JAOC campaign?

Sounds like you were on the O.C. Thanks for your efforts. I was not, just like 600+ other yes voters. I did however try to explain to others I flew with why we need a CBA. If that's not good enough for you I really don't care.

 

[fifty30retard]

If you were a "yes" voter I have zero quarrel with you.

My problem is with ill informed, blistfully ignorant pilots who allow managers to run roughshod over us.

 

[Fins Up]

If today's email from the CBC is any indication of things to come, many no voters will soon be seeing the light.

 

[fifty30retard]

Moderator, we are trying to steer this back to the thread topic....we are getting good info out to a lot of folks......we'll keep it on point....but will have some tangents....
And in walks Fifty......

If you have a 737 type, you won't be hired. Perfect hire has zero turbine PIC time with no chance of leaving B6 anytime soon. A captive pilot for sure.

 

[Fins Up]

Ridiculously inaccurate.

 

[n757st]

If you have a 737 type, you won't be hired. Perfect hire has zero turbine PIC time with no chance of leaving B6 anytime soon. A captive pilot for sure.

While we do hire some without pic turbine, it's fairly rare. As for the 737 type comment, total crap. I personally know multiple folks in the last 2 years hired with the type.

I know you are pissed about the vote.... I get that. I am displeased with the results too, but your campaign of anger and immaturity only hurts the cause. The ironic thing is, if your whole campaign here works, it'll just mean we hire less qualified people who are even more enamored with the shiny blue jet and will do anything management says, including voting down representation in the next drive.

 

[fifty30retard]

While we do hire some without pic turbine, it's fairly rare. As for the 737 type comment, total crap. I personally know multiple folks in the last 2 years hired with the type.

I know you are pissed about the vote.... I get that. I am displeased with the results too, but your campaign of anger and immaturity only hurts the cause. The ironic thing is, if your whole campaign here works, it'll just mean we hire less qualified people who are even more enamored with the shiny blue jet and will do anything management says, including voting down representation in the next drive.

If your campaign works, hundreds of pilots will be hired, then discover after it's too late, that they've bought into a mirage. You'll need to take responsibility for that.

 

[$$$4nothin]

Except noone has a campaign except you.

 

[n757st]

If your campaign works, hundreds of pilots will be hired, then discover after it's too late, that they've bought into a mirage. You'll need to take responsibility for that.

Then those people will leave for American etc. You make it sound like this place is worse then a turkish prison.... It's not. It's not the end all be all of the airline world, but some of us, including myself like it here. Its not perfect, no where is, but with a little work, and future representation, I think we can solve those problems. I never use this line, but if you are truly that unhappy, perhaps you should apply to FedEx, southwest, and in the future when they hire Delta, American, and United. I'm not saying those places are much better, but if things are so bad, they can't be worse then this place... Right? Or are things not quite as bad as you make them out, and you are just upset? The problem is you are acting like a child who just got his teddy bear taken away, which only fuels no voters perception of your immaturity and helps people justify a "no" vote.

 

[fifty30retard]

Then those people will leave for American etc. You make it sound like this place is worse then a turkish prison.... It's not. It's not the end all be all of the airline world, but some of us, including myself like it here. Its not perfect, no where is, but with a little work, and future representation, I think we can solve those problems. I never use this line, but if you are truly that unhappy, perhaps you should apply to FedEx, southwest, and in the future when they hire Delta, American, and United. I'm not saying those places are much better, but if things are so bad, they can't be worse then this place... Right? Or are things not quite as bad as you make them out, and you are just upset? The problem is you are acting like a child who just got his teddy bear taken away, which only fuels no voters perception of your immaturity and helps people justify a "no" vote.

There is no justification for a no vote, none. Superfluous emotional feel good talk does nothing to right what is wrong here. Committees have failed, check your inbox. You've been played. Don't advertise falsely to new hires.

 

[fifty30retard]

Except noone has a campaign except you.

My campaign is honest transparency. What's yours?

You're a pilot, not a janitor.

 

[$$$4nothin]

My campaign is honest transparency. What's yours?

You're a pilot, not a janitor.

If I wanted to have a campaign I would have become a politician. I became a pilot. Therefore I have no campaign. People are smart enough to know exactly what they are getting when they come here. They don't need me or anyone else trying to pursuade them one way or another. I have my opinions which are probably in tune with yours. I am just not as extreme or annoying about them as you are. Any new hire that gets on FI knows your views and the issues with the company so you really can give it a rest, at least for a while.

 

[fifty30retard]

If I wanted to have a campaign I would have become a politician. I became a pilot. Therefore I have no campaign. People are smart enough to know exactly what they are getting when they come here. They don't need me or anyone else trying to pursuade them one way or another. I have my opinions which are probably in tune with yours. I am just not as extreme or annoying about them as you are. Any new hire that gets on FI knows your views and the issues with the company so you really can give it a rest, at least for a while.

Rest is for suckers. Your management team is at war with you. Did you get the Dave email? Their complicit CBC members are in on it with them. Did you get their email? You do read do you not?