Union getting serious at CitationAir

[dime line]

Not trying to pick a fight (seriously) but have you talked to anyone still there to see how well ALPA's done for them?

Your kidding right?

 

[The Dude Abides]

Everything we do have will be at risk during negotiations.

Have? More like informational.

 

[The Dude Abides]

Election results in. IBT wins.

 

[dime line]

Election results in. IBT wins.

Let The Games begin!
Stay strong, we at FLOPS just lived the "how to" manuel for company games. Don't be afraid to ask a FLOPS pilot questions while on the road.

 

[bailout]

WooHoo!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CA1900]

Congratulations, guys!

 

[fischman]

"Your Awesomeness" approves...:beer:

 

[Krapflier]

My gut feeling, tells me it's going to be very close, possibly slightly in favor of the Union. That's unfortunate. I just hope this doesn't come around and bite us in the A$$! Everything we do have will be at risk during negotiations.

Prophetic...

 

[Fresh Air]

To you Citation Air pilots who made the difficult choice to defy your corporate managers and begin the process of negotiating a contract that will give you some measure of control over your futures: I truly hope that CA management will learn from the mistakes made by FLOPS management that resulted in a long, bitter contract battle which nearly put us out of business. May they have the sense to realize that it is in their best interests to work with you diligently and in good faith to achieve a fair and equitable CBA.

 

[PRFDLT]

Oh wait. About put you out of business negotiating. So that was never one of the points brought up. Hope everyone still has a job in 3 or 4 year and by the way it is spelled manual.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Ummm, yeah. Good luck with that.

 

[realityman]

Oh wait. About put you out of business negotiating. So that was never one of the points brought up. Hope everyone still has a job in 3 or 4 year and by the way it is spelled manual.

We did it at Netjets, we're still here.

FLOPS did it, they're still around (and apparently growing again).

Fresh Air has the truth of it. This could be a tremendous opportunity for both the pilots and management of CA to work together to come up with a product that's fair for both sides, promotes mutual respect, and allows room for both side to grow. It doesn't have to be confrontational.

While it started out that way at NJA, in the end both sides decided to work together for the betterment of the company, and everyone's future. Neither side is entirely happy with what's in the contract, but then again, both sides aren't entirely displeased either. And please don't try to blame NJA's recent financial troubles on the union. I'm pretty sure it was 99% the economy that caused the vast majority of the problems.

The point is, if both sides work together and with respect, a good product can result that will leave most on both sides reasonably happy (sorry, no such thing as a perfect contract for either side).

For the record, it's usually management that starts the game-playing in negotiations. So I'm with Fresh Air in wishing all of you at CA that your management doesn't go down that road.
And if they do, well, it may be difficult, but hang together and you'll pull through with something you can be proud of.

Good luck CA pilots!!

 

[Praetorian]

Prophetic...

First sentence prophetic.
Second sentence idiotic.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Let's start some pattern bargaining guys!

 

[rajflyboy]

Congratulations guys!

Now take management in a headlock and get the schedule and bennies and pilot protections you so deserve