NJA Downgrades

[jppt2000]

trust me I'd say it too your face also with no problem. (but how quick would you take it to Pro Standards or management to cry would be the question)

Not miserable, bitter maybe. My life has actually been on the up and up recently. Now I'm just sitting back and amazed at the blinders some have on as to what NJA is going to become.

Bitter, sorry you feel that way.
It's easy to post like a tough guy on an anonymous internet chat board.
It's pathetic to read "insider ( 411 emails) NJA commentary" posts from a bitter furloughed pilot or his angry buddy.
You seem to forget, it was the last management regime that hired you, not the union, or rank and file.

 

[jppt2000]

So you have fatigued and filled out reports. Look, either the required report IS a problem and a black mark on the contract or it ISN'T. You can't sit back and say how the union screwed the pooch on this, yet have no problem with doing it yourself. If that really is the case, then you'd agree with me that the pilots who are afraid of fatiguing because of the report really are weak decision-makers.

How many of these weak decision-making pilots really exist at NJA?

 

[imacdog]

How many of these weak decision-making pilots really exist at NJA?

I have no idea. I haven't flown with all of them. Certainly the pilots that are afraid of using the F-bomb because they have to fill out a report would be grouped into that definition. I have flown with several pilots that I considered to be weak PICs, but according to Raj, "everyone" is afraid of fatiguing. I'd give the pilots a little more credit than that.

 

[rajflyboy]

I don't see why some of you try to defend a stupid policy that was written into the IBB contract. Everyone knows its stupid. Its basic common sense.

 

[jppt2000]

I have no idea. I haven't flown with all of them. Certainly the pilots that are afraid of using the F-bomb because they have to fill out a report would be grouped into that definition. I have flown with several pilots that I considered to be weak PICs, but according to Raj, "everyone" is afraid of fatiguing. I'd give the pilots a little more credit than that.

Precisely, I too have no idea about the number of these weak PIC's.

But it sure grabs attention and gives posers, a phoney, self serving validation to their assertions.
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[rajflyboy]

I have no idea. I haven't flown with all of them. Certainly the pilots that are afraid of using the F-bomb because they have to fill out a report would be grouped into that definition. I have flown with several pilots that I considered to be weak PICs, but according to Raj, "everyone" is afraid of fatiguing. I'd give the pilots a little more credit than that.

I'd love to see the stats associated with this F bomb report.

F Bombs prior to the IBB
F Bombs post the IBB

 

[jppt2000]

I'd love to see the stats associated with this F bomb report.

F Bombs prior to the IBB
F Bombs post the IBB

Oh great. make assertions that you have no data or proof to fall back on, and then demand data from folks that actually do the research.
A true scientist.
I'm sure you'll handle that data with the highest regards for ensuring no bias creeps into your experiment and conclusions.

 

[rajflyboy]

So you have fatigued and filled out reports. Look, either the required report IS a problem and a black mark on the contract or it ISN'T. You can't sit back and say how the union screwed the pooch on this, yet have no problem with doing it yourself. If that really is the case, then you'd agree with me that the pilots who are afraid of fatiguing because of the report really are weak decision-makers.

You obviously have the blinders on. This f bomb report should have never been. Another IBB give away.

 

[jppt2000]

You obviously have the blinders on. This f bomb report should have never been. Another IBB give away.

I can spot posers though!

 

[imacdog]

I'd love to see the stats associated with this F bomb report.

F Bombs prior to the IBB
F Bombs post the IBB

So what does that prove......how many weak decision makers we have?

 

[rajflyboy]

I can spot posers though!

You just don't like the heat. That 95 MPH fast ball coming down the pipe.

I'm done posting about this mistake that was made with IBB. If you want to talk about some other mistakes that were made during IBB we can do that.

 

[jppt2000]

You just don't like the heat. That 95 MPH fast ball coming down the pipe.

I'm done posting about this mistake that was made with IBB. If you want to talk about some other mistakes that were made during IBB we can do that.

Heat? or maybe I can't stand your hot air.
Maybe you can start your own weekly 411 summary and share with us your expert, in depth commentary.
Or, you can start your own thread on how to fly.

 

[CRJFlyer]

Bitter, sorry you feel that way.
It's easy to post like a tough guy on an anonymous internet chat board.
It's pathetic to read "insider ( 411 emails) NJA commentary" posts from a bitter furloughed pilot or his angry buddy.
You seem to forget, it was the last management regime that hired you, not the union, or rank and file.

Come on over to njpilot.org and I will tell you the same thing there. Trust me, I'm not the only one who is ticked off at the company and feels it is a sinking ship. I just happen to come on FI a bit more than some.

You, on the other hand, have made it apparent your love for NJA. Most of us 495 feel the opposite.

 

[jppt2000]

Come on over to njpilot.org and I will tell you the same thing there. Trust me, I'm not the only one who is ticked off at the company and feels it is a sinking ship. I just happen to come on FI a bit more than some.

You, on the other hand, have made it apparent your love for NJA. Most of us 495 feel the opposite.

Nope, NJA is just a job a job to me.
I've actually grown a bit cynical with this job, just like you, and aviation as a whole.
I get enough spin from folks on the union website, I don't need more on the other website.
IMHO, I don't know who is lying, disingenuous, spinning and/or telling the truth anymore. I do my job as best as I can, and go home.
You seem to forget, I and about 2000+ other folks had nothing to do with your current predicament.
Again, I'm sorry for you, and I haven't lost sight of the fact, I could easily be in your situation.
I actually am working two jobs now, 1 non-aviation, just in case.
If this place goes under, I've got other viable options, (non-flying) for employment, do you?

 

[OPECJet]

Not true at all, we figured if they were good enough for NJ, they would fit right in at JUS.

Yip, you're one of the few who realized that.

Some of our guys are getting hired in places, but with employers being able to pick and choose, an NJA seniority number does seem to hinder with some companies.