NWA Position Update

[NuGuy]

MEM is strictly DC-9 and A320.

ANC flies to 7 cities in the US (9 seasonally), and 8 cities (discounting CRAF) internationally.

Some New Hires will go to the A320 in Feb. Instructors have been asked to change our offline requests to cover the ramped-up training.

Not to mention ANOTHER request for DC-9 CA IPs. I think this is the 2nd or 3rd notice in 6 months, and one of those was extended by 60 days because they didn't get enough people.

Note that this MIGHT be because the FO IP program didn't work out as well as they'd hoped, or so I've heard. Don't know the details.

Nu

 

[Guam360]

hey guys, again my question is about submitting a Captain's name and employee number, but I have completed the app online without accesss to it anymore, what or how is the way to submit his name to help me get the interview??

Thanks guys!!

Re-apply or what?

 

[Occam's Razor]

hey guys, again my question is about submitting a Captain's name and employee number, but I have completed the app online without accesss to it anymore, what or how is the way to submit his name to help me get the interview??

Thanks guys!!

Re-apply or what?

Have him contact "Troy" at Flight Ops HR. He can call Crew Planning (the number is in his FOM) and ask to be transfered to Troy. Troy will send him an e-mail with a link to your online app.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Not to mention ANOTHER request for DC-9 CA IPs. I think this is the 2nd or 3rd notice in 6 months, and one of those was extended by 60 days because they didn't get enough people.

Note that this MIGHT be because the FO IP program didn't work out as well as they'd hoped, or so I've heard. Don't know the details.

I saw Dom yesterday at the Mall of America eek. He said there is too much movement to keep the IP ranks on the DC-9 "stabilized". We're in the same boat, so there's a posting for A320 IP's too.

The demise of the FO IP program is good for us. More captain positions is a good thing.

 

[Guam360]

Have him contact "Troy" at Flight Ops HR. He can call Crew Planning (the number is in his FOM) and ask to be transfered to Troy. Troy will send him an e-mail with a link to your online app.

awesome Occam, thanks dude, that is sweet info, I will email him immediately.

Guam

 

[CRJCptn]

Off topic, but just curious if anyone has recieved the phone call that dose not have a four year degree(in the process of finishing)... I feel otherw competitive with 7500 tt and 1600 pic 121?

 

[Guam360]

I am in the same boat bro, the app clearly states High school diploma or equivalent, we'll see.....
Anyone been called with less than a 4 year degree?

I am enrolled in Thomas Edison State College, under the "Light Bulb" Major, minor in electricity.

no, seriously....

 

[NuGuy]

I saw Dom yesterday at the Mall of America eek. He said there is too much movement to keep the IP ranks on the DC-9 "stabilized". We're in the same boat, so there's a posting for A320 IP's too.

The demise of the FO IP program is good for us. More captain positions is a good thing.

Agree!

A whole bunch of first time bidders jumped onto the DC-9 CA pref up for March. I don't know if it's just the timing for "post holiday training", people wanting to be a$$hole captains for a change, instead of listening to one, or if they just heard that life isn't THAT terrible on the -9 after all.

Who knows, but like you said more captains = better.

Nu

 

[Tref]

Anyone been called with less than a 4 year degree?

I asked about this for a buddy of mine on Friday and the word is that right now they are only calling people with at least a Bachelor's Degree. He said that could change at some point, but for the foreseeable future the degree is required to be competitive.

 

[NuGuy]

I asked about this for a buddy of mine on Friday and the word is that right now they are only calling people with at least a Bachelor's Degree. He said that could change at some point, but for the foreseeable future the degree is required to be competitive.

Ssssssssssh! Don't let PilotYIP hear that...

Nu

 

[Guam360]

Occam,

in regards to the raw score and flight time to flying years ratio formula, what about in my situation having 320 time and 747 time, is that factored in? I am digging now, since I asked about the degree thing, now I feel screwed.
I know my ratio to time/flt time, is probably low because I've chosen to upgrade or go to a new company and been on reserve alot, has caused low flight times per year, thus a low average?

sorry man, for these endless type questions.

Cheers, hopes this helps someone else too. Good luck everyone!!

 

[SplitBar]

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[NuGuy]

Occam,

in regards to the raw score and flight time to flying years ratio formula, what about in my situation having 320 time and 747 time, is that factored in? I am digging now, since I asked about the degree thing, now I feel screwed.
I know my ratio to time/flt time, is probably low because I've chosen to upgrade or go to a new company and been on reserve alot, has caused low flight times per year, thus a low average?

sorry man, for these endless type questions.

Cheers, hopes this helps someone else too. Good luck everyone!!

Hi Guam,

I don't know how much Occam can tell you about the grid criteria, if he even knows. NWA has traditionally been VERY picky about releasing any info about their selection/interview policies, and they even make interviewees sign non-disclosure forms.

What I can tell you from what I've seen in the past (looking at the guys hired), at least back in the late 90's, is that "the grid" favored someone with college and flying tons of time/yr. Turbine PIC time was less of a factor than at other outfits.

The ideal candidate was a person who got their commerical ticket and flew 7-8 years at 80-85 hrs/mo (regionals, cargo, whatever). Age wasn't an issue, just as long as you banked fat hours after you got your ticket.

PIC or no, you were looking pretty good for NWA if you did this. If you DID have some turbine PIC time, then you went to the top of the heap IF the other boxes were checked, but even if you didn't, chances are you'd get the call anyway.

Right or wrong, I know that college is a VERY big deal for NWA. I had a bud who had GOBS of DC-9 time PIC, squeeky clean record, from the midwest and had been flying a TON since he was 18. No go....college was the deal breaker.

Nu

 

[Guam360]

Nu, very nice post, not in my favor but hey, oh well.
thanks

G

ps, so even if I received my BA next week, I wouldn't have a chance to update it, I am already scored without it. right?

 

[NuGuy]

Nu, very nice post, not in my favor but hey, oh well.
thanks

G

ps, so even if I received my BA next week, I wouldn't have a chance to update it, I am already scored without it. right?

Heyas Guam,

I dunno. The reason they do it they way they do is to discourage the "I got 10 more hours of actual/PIC/whatever and I want to update" anal retentive types from pestering them every 3 days.

As far as college, and since it IS such a big deal, I might try to find some method of updating that. Maybe a potential path would be to have the NWA guy who's recommending (if any) you send a email saying something to the effect of "hey, my buddy is SUPER interested, and hey, he just got his degree". You never know, and you can't win if you don't play.

If you are at all interested in NWA, and it sounds like you are, I'd get the degree ASAP.

Nu

 

[Guam360]

thanks again,

I am enrolled in Thomas Edison State College out of Trenton, NJ, they have an online program for aviation, that really doesn't help since I already have a AS from Riddle with all that. Plus I am just not interested anymore.

Using my ability to speak Japanese and Portuguese pretty well, that will rack up the credits for a Humanities degree with a concentration in Language.
This is about the fastest track I can find with sincere interest, other than just something I am not interested in.

Knowing and speaking those languages sets me up to be evaluated for 4 hours at NYU to qualify for up to 18 credit hours towards my BA. I should be pretty close to finishing after that, maybe a year from now, because of the other courses that are required.

Thanks for the replies and advice. I am very interested and I am being sponsored by a senior 320 CA. He doesn't think there should be a degree issue, knowing that the qualifications lists only a HS diploma, with his knowledge of my background.
G

 

[Occam's Razor]

At some "pressure point" (my term) the HR folks will turn on the "update" function of the online app process. At this point they don't have to. It'll happen, but I couldn't begin to guess when.

The lack of a degree is not an absolute deal-breaker...but at this point, everybody that's scoring well has one.

Having a type (with PIC experience) in an NWA aircraft increases a candidates score on the matrix.

 

[BLUE-ICE-MAN]

How long does it usually take to get a call after you fill out the e-mail they send you? Anyone?

 

[Guam360]

thanks again Occam! as always!

there was one guy that posted somewhere three weeks, alot of the responses on here are around 5 to 6 weeks.

G

 

[CRJCptn]

I'll second the thanks to Occam and Nu. Good info all around. Also, good call Guam on the update. I too am trying to finish online, but through Riddle and didn't even think about how update when I finish. Thanks again everyone and good luck Guam.

 

[Buzo]

How long has everyone been waiting from filling out the first form, until getting the email with the app?

 

[Occam's Razor]

Holiday schedule is weird, but I was in yesterday yakking with the HR team, and they're still sorting, calling, and inviting as they wade through the stack.

e-mails go out after the 2nd "human" review. (a computer, then two mammals, review each app)

Can take a few days...or several days.

Interviews Tue-Wed-Thur which diverts at least one of the "reviewers" during those days.

The decision to turn on the Update function is "weeks away".

Editorial: The HR team is composed of people, who despite their daily contact with them, still actually LIKE pilots!

Amazing...

 

[rke44]

Hey guys and gals,

It's been a little while since I received the good call after the interview and was just wondering how long it is taking others to get the call to schedule the physical? Also, I'm kind of curious if this is just like any other Class I or if it is a little more in depth? Thanks.

 

[NuGuy]

Hey guys and gals,

It's been a little while since I received the good call after the interview and was just wondering how long it is taking others to get the call to schedule the physical? Also, I'm kind of curious if this is just like any other Class I or if it is a little more in depth? Thanks.

If it's the same physical they gave back in the late 90's, be prepared for an all day event.

FULL workup, including fasting, cardio, hearing test in a booth, and not one, but TWO eye exams.

I don't remember if they make you sing "moonriver" with Dr. Jellyfinger, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Nu

 

[another cfii]

I thought the medical is done on the same day as the interview, is it correct? If not, does that mean I have to fly back to MSP for their medical??

Thanks

 

[Klamath]

Although I don't know what the physical consist of, it is just a 1 hour, 30 min event. They fly you out and back home on the same day. No fasting required.

 

[rke44]

Drug testing is the same day as the interview. You have to go back to MSP for the physical if you pass the panel interview/sim ride.

 

[BLUE-ICE-MAN]

Thx for the info Guam.

 

[cargoflyr69]

The drug (pee) test is the day of interview.

The Medical exam is at the same location (park nicolette airport clinic) it consists of a standard 1st class medical. start with Pee test for sugars/albumin. They do an EKG on you regardless how old you are, and the hearing test is done in a "quiet room" using headsets where you push a button each time you hear a tone. The eye test is done on one of the "look into the box" type machines. If you wear contacts you have to do it with and without them on. In the exam room the doc listens to your breathing taps on your stomach, chest, does a knee tap reflex tap. Takes you pulse and BP. Has you stand stand with arms out eyes closed for balance, bend over and touch your toes, snap! on comes the rubber glove for the "turn you head and cough" About 30 minutes, 1.5 hrs with the paperwork and waiting room.

I'm local so i drove in. One other was there from MSN, pretty sure he was flown in/out same day. if you are really far away I'd assume they'd pay hotel but dont quote me.

hope this helps

 

[rke44]

Thanks CargoFlyer