KCBM T-38C went down 18 Jan 07

[The_Russian]

So you actually got worked up and defended yourself from a comment that wasn't actualy made? There's a head-scratcher. Whether it was said somewhere else or not is irrelevant here. Focus.

I'll work on it. Just got carried away. Thanks Daniel-son.

 

[McGillicutty]

Should've read the entire thread.

 

[Lipper95]

...still with zero missed-approaches?

zero missed approaches, yes. but i did have to break rule #2: no go arounds. first tactical approach to an lz here in the stan (where i currently reside) f*cked up the descent and did a nice "show of force" pass over the strip. real impressive. the worst part: had a fed ex md-11 / alaska ang 130 guy standing over my shoulder laughing the whole way. i felt like a total @ss. he told me (jokingly of course) that if i got tired of swa and i needed him to sponsor me at fed ex he would, but it would take another ride!

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Wow...I come home WAY DRUNK from a party on a LATE Friday night and posted. Let that be a lesson to the rest of you.


So now maybe I'm the Mel Gibson of FI.com.



But seriously, folks...how did this turn into a "my d!ck is bigger than yours" kinda thread? It's not the first here, and it's certainly not the last. Blame what you want on me, but the argument was in full-swing LONG before Jack Daniels and I sat down to type my diatribe below.


Now that I'm sober, let me qualifiy my half-baked statements...one by one:



Let me be clear: Saying a CRJ pilot has zero SA on what's involved on a UPT Low Level navigation sortie isn't a stretch. Don't get pissed...I'm not saying he has "zero SA in general," as this is not the case. I'm sure he's well-qualified at his job.

I'm not going to talk sh!t about his job, because I have ZERO SA about what it entails. I only as that he do the same. Sarcastic statements like "ejection seats are an automatic 'Get Out of Jail Free Card'" might be entertaining in any other thread, but they have no place while we're talking about two dudes who are lucky to be alive. I don't see how a comment made in such bad taste can be tolerated...

...but then again, I'm the drunken poster in this thread. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..." Guess I need to hold onto my rock.



Freight Dog said

...and we all see how pissed off that made everyone. I have plenty to say on this topic, but it's already been hashed-out in previous posts.



I understand how inflammatory that comment was. It was meant that way. FI.com is just FULL of people who needlessly talk sh!t without actually contributing to the conversation.

If you're not a military pilot (or military aviator), PLEASE contribute to the threads in here. It's not our forum...we know it. But look at my statement: I was saying to get out unless you have "something constructive to contribute."

It seems like everyone read the "GET THE F*CK OUT" part and didn't finish that sentence.

And...before you get upset...think about how YOU'D feel if some young USAF Captain started talking sh!t in your Part 135 thread. Or if he started calling someone out for being a "gear handle monkey" or whatever stupid stereotype that might exist in the civ flying world.

"Get out unless you have something constructive to contribute" should be the friggin MANTRA of FI.com. We all know that most people have the opposite in mind when they waltz into a thread, shoot their mouth off, and get out to watch the ensuing flame war.





That's the really sad thing: This thread has digressed well into uselessness. If I would have known it was going to turn into this poop circus, I wouldn't have started it. Two guys are home tonight thanks to some pyrotechnics and silk, and we're b!tching about who has the longer penis.

Shame on us. Me included.




While not directly, I've gotten PLENTY of your feedback from this post. Take that as a lesson, kiddos: Don't drink and post!



Inappropriate on my part. However, if mine were home when I returned from the naming party, I would have been "on the job" instead of drunk posting. Maybe it's all her fault for being out of town, lol.


Blue skies, fellas, and God Speed.

When in doubt, bail out!!!

 

[JimNtexas]

That about covers the flyby.

 

[Fury220]

That about covers the flyby.

The AirBoss saying "I WANT SOME BUTTS!!!" just about put the homosexual nail in the coffin for that scene. Ugh.

haha

 

[Fury220]

When in doubt, bail out!!!

Meh...the T-38's seat isn't exactly ACESII technology...if I can land that thing, I'm stayin right where I am!


We're talkin' the best 1960s seat money can buy...good, but some 18 year old dude fresh out of tech school is still packin' your chute (sts!!).

 

[frog_flyer]

Meh...the T-38's seat isn't exactly ACESII technology...if I can land that thing, I'm stayin right where I am!


We're talkin' the best 1960s seat money can buy...good, but some 18 year old dude fresh out of tech school is still packin' your chute (sts!!).

Good save

 

[guppygoshawk]

The AirBoss saying "I WANT SOME BUTTS!!!" just about put the homosexual nail in the coffin for that scene. Ugh.

haha

How can you mock when you were rocking out to Doug Masters shoting the canyon?!??

 

[Fury220]

How can you mock when you were rocking out to Doug Masters shoting the canyon?!??

Hm...

Well, "shooting the canyon" sounds a LOT more hetero than "I want some butts" if ya know what I'm sayin...

Good scenes in the movie peppered with some homo scenes. I still own a copy, so don't worry. I just hit "SKIP" over the "I want some butts" stuff.

 

[JFReservist]

"We're talkin' the best 1960s seat money can buy...good, but some 18 year old dude fresh out of tech school is still packin' your chute (sts!!)."

Fury, You're kidding. Right?

 

[Oh-ryan]

Fury220,

I could care less about your comments at this point. What I want to know is who the heck comes home from a night at the watering hole and thinks to themselves, "Let me see what the chucks on flightinfo.com are up to?"

For heaven's sake man!?! Here are some more constructive things to do in your drunken haze (in no particular order):
1. pop a porno into the DVD player / surf porn on the internet
d. call an ex-girlfriend and then hang up when she answers (repeat as necessary)
a. heat up a hot pocket (remember to take it out the microwave and actually eat it)
IV. rub one out (repeat as necessary/possible)
4. split the atom (again)
2. drink some more
y. watch the "set it and forget it" rotisserie informercial and proceed to buy five or six of the darn things
ii. vomit (repeat as necessary)

Or just about anything else is acceptable. Please get your drunken priorities in order.

 

[AdlerDriver]

When in doubt, bail out!!!

Here's another 2 cents about that: Back when I was busy logging the first few of the whopping 35 hours of single engine recip time I have, I used to think the same thing. The seat seemed like a pretty good thing during UPT too.

It's a totally different story after 2000 hours in an Eagle. The last thing you want to contemplate is jumping out. "I can recover this spin" or "I can deal with this flight control issue" or "I can recover from this misorientation caused 600 knot dive", etc. etc. It's why we still lose an occasional guy to an out of the envelope attempt. When you get way experienced and way comfy in a fighter, jumping out becomes a nightmare scenario. Those handles will save your life but they represent a trip out of the very familiar surroundings you've come to know and love. Not an easy thing. I can't remember a single sortie when I sat on that seat and actually thought while I was flying - "F#ckin'-A, good thing I'm riding along on an Aces-2 today!!"

Obviously riding it in is the worst - but only slightly less worse is a mode-3 Aces 2 ejection from FL350. Nothing like a 20K' drop, sitting in the seat, trailing a small chute, facing earthward hoping all the "gerbils" in the seat start running around the wheel at the right time when you hit 15K'. Sh!t has to be going wayyyy bad for that to even come up on the radar scope of possibilities. There are black and white scenarios that we all hope are the one we get if our number comes up. The gray ones $uck.

It would take alot more than "doubt" to make me want to do that. Come on! Who hasn't safed up the seat in the middle of the North Atlantic on an ocean crossing thinking, "I'll take my chances in the jet - those ice bergs look big and cold" (especially when it's time for Mr. Piddle Pack to make an appearance).

Cheers.

 

[Steeler Fan]

I'm glad those guys are OK.

Is Tam still working at the Little Kitchen?


Go Steelers!

 

[JimNtexas]

I always the F-111 capsule was pretty cool, as long as you landed it on something fairly soft. Certainly it made going fast that much more fun, knowing that if you punched out you wouldn't be tore apart.

The stick(s) became bilge pumps when it transformed from an really good airplane into a so-so boat.

 

[tmac3333]

I'll answer 2 relevant questions after the myriad of bs I've seen in this thread. Fury...no offense dude, but just stfu.
1) It was not a new seat. Old T-38 seat. No UPT T-38s have upgraded their seats maybe in 2008 or 2009 at the earliest.
2) The Little Kitchen is still here...don't know anyone by the name of Tam working there.

 

[Fury220]

The stick(s) became bilge pumps when it transformed from an really good airplane into a so-so boat.

Kinda cool. Pay extra for that option?

 

[Slug]

Kitchen update

Tam retired from waitstaffing.

The other two girls who worked there (Faye and Theresa??????) went to work across the road at a different "kitchen" when management changed.

The "kitchen" is still there though.


Slug

 

[talondriver]

I'm glad those guys are OK.

Is Tam still working at the Little Kitchen?


Go Steelers!

Tam left a looong time ago.

 

[talondriver]

Tam retired from waitstaffing.

The other two girls who worked there (Faye and Theresa??????) went to work across the road at a different "kitchen" when management changed.

The "kitchen" is still there though.


Slug

Fay is back at the Kitchen. Teresa became the manager at the local Sonics. Wow...we need to get a life.

As for the new T-38C ejection seats...

Laughlin is suppose to get the new Martin Baker seats first. Supposedly, sometime this spring.