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KCBM T-38C went down 18 Jan 07

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Fury220

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Anyone have any details? I hear it was a single talon on a low-level mission...


Word is both pilots are ok.
 
That's all I've heard thusfar.

I called a stud over there tonight but he said he didn't want to (couldn't?) talk about it.
 
News report

CAFB Plane Crashes South of Memphis
[18. Jan. 2007 - 17:58]
Crews from Columbus Air Force Base are on the scene of a plane crash 40 miles south of Memphis, just west of Batesville. The base reports one of its T-38C Trainer crashed about 1:30 Thursday afternoon in the Curtis Station Community near Highway Six not far from the Panola/Quitman county line. The pilot and trainee did eject before the plane crashed. They were picked up by Panola County Sheriff David Bryan. Neither was injured. The plane, which is used extensively at the Columbus Airforce Base for high-altitude training, was destroyed. The men were conducing low-level navigation training mission.
 
Dirty Sanchez said:
Must be nice to have that option...
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Yeah, especially when you're doing 420 KCAS at 500' AGL in uncontrolled airspace. In formation.


But I doubt you'd know much about that.
 
Freight Dawg said:
We may never know, but I know your @ss will be coming to our side. Civy is where the money is.
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Strange as it may sound, some of us have motivations in life other than money. Keep pumping yourself up, though. If that's what it takes to make you feel better for not contributing.......
 
Guppy I hate to tell you this but at some point your gonna retire, and your wife and kids will want a house, food...etc. So you can either do as many people I know and become a government contractor and hope year to year some SCS doesn't steal your funding, or take a crack at Civy avaition. You don't know, I may have prior service none flying maybe not. I know of very few Mil guys that can just retire and live comfortably, unless your a O7 with at least 25 years. Hey CCDiscoB were things busy for you guys in December and first part of Jan?
 
Freight Dawg said:
Guppy I hate to tell you this but at some point your gonna retire, and your wife and kids will want a house, food...etc. So you can either do as many people I know and become a government contractor and hope year to year some SCS doesn't steal your funding, or take a crack at Civy avaition. You don't know, I may have prior service none flying maybe not. I know of very few Mil guys that can just retire and live comfortably, unless your a O7 with at least 25 years. Hey CCDiscoB were things busy for you guys in December and first part of Jan?
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That's great, buddy. I've got no problem whatsoever with civilian aviation. It's great, but it's not my cup of tea. But for you to say that 'my a$$ will be going civvy because that's where the money is' shows a bit of myopia on your side. I'm not terribly worried about what I'm going to do after retirement. Thanks for doing the worrying for me, but I've got plans that suit me just fine. If you have prior military time, thanks for your service. If not, you shouldn't pose, you have no idea the sacrifices made.
 
Myopia is the inability to see things farther away versus upclose. I would think financially planning now for retirement is good. I think you meant Hyperopia which is the ability to see things up close not far away. I am looking long term baby, oh yeah. Good luck with retirement, have a few beers and "Push it Up"...thats a fighter pilot term right? Or "Light the wick", or how about "Blower". Come on now I got potential. Any way Have fun enjoy..Later
 
Freight Dawg said:
Myopia is the inability to see things farther away versus upclose. I would think financially planning now for retirement is good. I think you meant Hyperopia which is the ability to see things up close not far away. I am looking long term baby, oh yeah. Good luck with retirement, have a few beers and "Push it Up"...thats a fighter pilot term right? Or "Light the wick", or how about "Blower". Come on now I got potential. Any way Have fun enjoy..Later
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Thanks. Not sure what your point is, but I'm sure its well intentioned. I guess I was waaaay off on the optometery terms. (not sure you're seeing my POV yet). Thanks for the quotes, but other than 'blower' I've never heard any of the others used (and that one rarely). Enjoy your Mil Aviation Magazines and feel free to mock me with whatever else you come up with. Good luck trucking cancelled checks.
 
Hey thanks not a problem, I really don't read any Mil or Civy airplane magazines outside of AOPA. Come on Guppy, I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings. A guy made a simple comment that if your going really fast close to the ground and sh!t hits the fan it must be nice to have the option of getting out and not have to ride it in. It didn't seem like he was picking on anyone, he just made a harmless comment. I know my fellow UPS guys would have loved to have had the option to punch out of that DC-8 that caught on fire but that wasn't the option. God smiled down long enough to get them down and get them out of the A/C alive and well.
 
Ok, gents,... can we all just lighten up? Yes, two-ship low-level has its risks. And who doesn't have respect for the civilian pilot that has busted his anus to get where he is on, his own nickel.
I've learned a LOT about flying from my military IP's... and I've learned A LOT from the pilots I've flown with that never flew in the military.
So, let's put the ruler away, and stop measuring our penis.
Instead, let's find a convenient place to have a brew together.
Blue skies,
Huggy
 
Freight Dawg said:
Hey thanks not a problem, I really don't read any Mil or Civy airplane magazines outside of AOPA. Come on Guppy, I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings. A guy made a simple comment that if your going really fast close to the ground and sh!t hits the fan it must be nice to have the option of getting out and not have to ride it in. It didn't seem like he was picking on anyone, he just made a harmless comment. I know my fellow UPS guys would have loved to have had the option to punch out of that DC-8 that caught on fire but that wasn't the option. God smiled down long enough to get them down and get them out of the A/C alive and well.
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Listen buddy, I never said anyone was picking on anyone. I was just agreeing with the HUGE difference between tactical low level navigation flights and normal civilian low level navigation. The handle is nice to have, but by no means a 'Get out of jail free' card. My problem was with your comment that mil. avaiators will come to the civ. side becuase 'that's where the $$$ is'. I explained my position. You may never understand a sense of service compared dollars and cents, but don't worry, there are enough of us that do that you'll stay safe!
 
Huggyu2 said:
Ok, gents,... can we all just lighten up? Yes, two-ship low-level has its risks. And who doesn't have respect for the civilian pilot that has busted his anus to get where he is on, his own nickel.
I've learned a LOT about flying from my military IP's... and I've learned A LOT from the pilots I've flown with that never flew in the military.
So, let's put the ruler away, and stop measuring our penis.
Instead, let's find a convenient place to have a brew together.
Blue skies,
Huggy
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Agreed. I've got no problem with anyone here. I just don't like being told that I'm going to go to where the $$$ is.
 
Nice bunny trail, but any word on the IP and SP?
 
Huggy,

Take a look at this ruler...would you BELIEVE this? I mean...really...take look at this....

OH...sorry...never mind...excuse the thread creep. Just thought that with both CIVILIAN, MILITARY, and 121 time you might be impressed with this ruler...oh...well...never mind.

Geez guys...we are all just heavy equipment operators...some for the Gov and some for some corps. Thank God the bros onboard are okay...that's all I care about...

Albie out....
 
Steeler Fan said:
Nice bunny trail, but any word on the IP and SP?
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Sorry Steeler Fan, I got busy today and never got around to calling my IP buddy from over there to get the details. I am wondering if it may have been NATO guys? But I've been told by the time they get to Columbus those guys aren't nuggets anymore. Either way, I'm glad they made it out ok.
 
guppygoshawk said:
Listen buddy, I never said anyone was picking on anyone. I was just agreeing with the HUGE difference between tactical low level navigation flights and normal civilian low level navigation. The handle is nice to have, but by no means a 'Get out of jail free' card. My problem was with your comment that mil. avaiators will come to the civ. side becuase 'that's where the $$$ is'. I explained my position. You may never understand a sense of service compared dollars and cents, but don't worry, there are enough of us that do that you'll stay safe!
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Listen here....this thread was all about how "two dudes made it out safely after a bad situation" until some CRJ pilot with ZERO SA tuned-in with a trite comment about:

"wow...ejection seats...I'd love to have that option." Seriously...that was the point of his comment, even though he chose other words. No denying that.

And all of the sudden, someone rolls-in with "well, keep on b!tching, because I know you're going to cry to the civies when you need to put food on the table. Civ flying is where the money is at." YGBSM.


Brothers: Shut the F*ck Up. If you're not a military pilot, GET THE F*CK OUT OF A MILITARY THREAD UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO CONTRIBUTE.

(Note: "I wish I had that option" is NOT a constructive comment.)



The bottom line is that this thread is about two dudes who made it out after taking a bird at high speed. They lived. Kudos...because similar situations have killed better pilots (KSPS 1992, KCBM 199X, etc...I don't need to cite crap from "Road to Wings").


That is ALL this thread is about. The fact that it has digressed into something different is why I don't post more often on FI.com: LOTs and LOTs of punk-a$$ know-it-alls who enjoy rolling-in on the fight with ZERO SA.


Oh, and posting drunk is really hard when you're trying to type correctly. I welcome feedback on how to post more-effectively while intoxicated.

B!tches.
 

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