Brian Wilson Endorses The ASA Coalition!

[ASADriver]

Just because we're not meeting doesn't mean nothing's happening. Gotta love the Generation X mantra of Instant Gratification!

You sure have an interesting definition of "instant".

 

[ASADriver]

Have you seen this mandate? I haven't and neither has any other member of the rank and file. I wonder why?

Good point. We are told that these things are what the majority wants, but we aren't shown the actual polling to back up those statements. How do we know that this is what the majority wants. I guess this election will determine if this is really what the majority wants.

 

[Speedtape]

Have you seen this mandate? I haven't and neither has any other member of the rank and file. I wonder why?

LJ was instrumental in working on our current contract. This contract was, according to many of those here at the DOS, industry leading at that tx. If the only reason you have for not voting for LJ is b/c of what SH may or may not have said in a R/T class then you need to start thinking for yourself.

Wrong--Most of the contract was done before L.J. came into her position. The pilot group delivered that contract. With the envioronment that the pilot group created at the end game, Howdy Doody could have done a better job and he would not have compromised pay rates for all pilots, for the "pay for training bonus" that benefitted a special interest group (including J.B.) After all, good pay rates for all pilots are "inclusive," and payrates for J.B.'s select group were "EXCLUSIVE." That's the Scope J.B. be talk'n bout!

She better be ready for the truth to come out about her ALPA experience, because I heard that some of the members of that MEC and the ASA negotiator that she sent out of the room to pull her tricks, are going to hold her accountable, should she get the nomination!

 

[Speedtape]

Good point. We are told that these things are what the majority wants, but we aren't shown the actual polling to back up those statements. How do we know that this is what the majority wants. I guess this election will determine if this is really what the majority wants.

Chuckles,

Weren't you on the MEC 4 years ago? I bet you know what the Data says! Without a doubt, you have shared it with your S.H.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

She better be ready for the truth to come out about her ALPA experience, because I heard that some of the members of that MEC and the ASA negotiator that she sent out of the room to pull her tricks, are going to hold her accountable, should she get the nomination!

Good, I am all for accountability for elected officers both present and future. By the way have you seen the polling data that the MEC is vigorously fighting for? What are they doing to get this done? They say no more negotiating w/o the mediator present. The mediator has stated no more dates until the two sides comes closer together on the proposals. Correct me if I am wrong but how are the two sides suppose to get the gap reduced w/o talking with each other?

Sorry, DN says a Proffer of Arbitration from the NMB is on the way...
Good luck Dave

 

[FightingIrish]

Good, I am all for accountability for elected officers both present and future. By the way have you seen the polling data that the MEC is vigorously fighting for? What are they doing to get this done? They say no more negotiating w/o the mediator present. The mediator has stated no more dates until the two sides comes closer together on the proposals. Correct me if I am wrong but how are the two sides suppose to get the gap reduced w/o talking with each other?

Sorry, DN says a Proffer of Arbitration from the NMB is on the way...
Good luck Dave

Actually at a recent recurrent class, Dave admitted that the NMB will probably turn down ALPA's request for a profer. When asked what ALPA's next step will be if the NMB turns down the request, he answered "we don't know". Instills confidence doesn't it.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Well, it seems we've found three very vocal opponents of this MEC. If what they're saying is true that the majority is against the MEC, you'd think there would be HUNDREDS on here criticizing! But there are not... just the usual handful of malcontents.

Preach on guys. I'm sure you represent the other 1697 or so. Really. I'm sure you'll sway the vote by shouting from your soapbox here. But time is running out. Better turn up the anti-alpa rhetoric quick.

Funny how you don't see this negativity from these three on the ALPA message board. I wonder why? Maybe they're afraid to stand behind their insults? Maybe they're not even ASA pilots? Maybe they're managers with restricted access? Maybe they work for Skywest?

Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

I'm sure that statement gave the room a good warm and fuzzy to know that our trusted leader has no plan B. They had to know that this move was a hail mary when they made the request.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I'm sure that statement gave the room a good warm and fuzzy to know that our trusted leader has no plan B. They had to know that this move was a hail mary when they made the request.

I'm betting nobody but our Golden Domed friend even zeroed in on that remark (if it was even made, which I doubt). But I'm sure he'll respond that EVERYONE IN THE CLASS was aghast! See, the truth is whatever you believe it is, and when you hate your leaders that much, it poisons your mind to objectivity.

 

[FightingIrish]

Well, it seems we've found three very vocal opponents of this MEC. If what they're saying is true that the majority is against the MEC, you'd think there would be HUNDREDS on here criticizing! But there are not... just the usual handful of malcontents.

Preach on guys. I'm sure you represent the other 1697 or so. Really. I'm sure you'll sway the vote by shouting from your soapbox here. But time is running out. Better turn up the anti-alpa rhetoric quick.

Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.

We aren't anti-alpa. We want ALPA to do things differently and we want ALPA to stop the transfer of aircraft. Just because you criticize the way some things are done in ALPA, doesn't mean you are anti-alpa.

The current MEC is stepping out. Only Faruzzi is running again, and many don't want him to continue. If the MEC is going to be replaced, many of us are ready for a different approach to these negotiations.