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John G,
You should be very proud of yourself. You should walkaround with your chest and your tounge stuck out like the old class bully screaming I told you so, I told you so... Whether you want to think about it or not John, there are over fifty(50) people on the street now without jobs. I am included. Let me tell you something fathead. I have listened to or read all of your babbling on this board. I have about had it. 1st your claim about unsafe operations. THE FAA is aware of your posts. they have been shown. Why don't you personally stop by to express your concerns. I know they are anxious to hear YOUR side of complaints. As to money, all of us got a jolt when payroll could not be made. Most of us stuck it out to the end with hopes of success. Some bad business decisions might have been made. It happens all to often. You might check with your "source" and ask them how may engines are in the shop to be placed on aircraft. Though we did not get paid, aircraft maintenance and safety were not compromised. This company tried to employ furloughed pilots to keep them going until they got their jobs back. While here they did an outstanding job just as the others did. The furloughs were lucky, they got called back. Not being an owner of the company I cannot begin to say what will happen next. I can only say that the employees that were hired did an outstanding job given the circumstances presented. For you to scream I told you so is an insult to very person who worked here.
John, now that you single handedly took down a small airline you should put that on your resume. Don't forget though that there are fifty(50) people on the streets who look to you as the "mesiah" because you saw it in your tea leaves. Now that you have this insight into the future, you should look at starting your own airline. But wait, you might just fire yourself.......
You should be very proud of yourself. You should walkaround with your chest and your tounge stuck out like the old class bully screaming I told you so, I told you so... Whether you want to think about it or not John, there are over fifty(50) people on the street now without jobs. I am included. Let me tell you something fathead. I have listened to or read all of your babbling on this board. I have about had it. 1st your claim about unsafe operations. THE FAA is aware of your posts. they have been shown. Why don't you personally stop by to express your concerns. I know they are anxious to hear YOUR side of complaints. As to money, all of us got a jolt when payroll could not be made. Most of us stuck it out to the end with hopes of success. Some bad business decisions might have been made. It happens all to often. You might check with your "source" and ask them how may engines are in the shop to be placed on aircraft. Though we did not get paid, aircraft maintenance and safety were not compromised. This company tried to employ furloughed pilots to keep them going until they got their jobs back. While here they did an outstanding job just as the others did. The furloughs were lucky, they got called back. Not being an owner of the company I cannot begin to say what will happen next. I can only say that the employees that were hired did an outstanding job given the circumstances presented. For you to scream I told you so is an insult to very person who worked here.
John, now that you single handedly took down a small airline you should put that on your resume. Don't forget though that there are fifty(50) people on the streets who look to you as the "mesiah" because you saw it in your tea leaves. Now that you have this insight into the future, you should look at starting your own airline. But wait, you might just fire yourself.......
Sour Grapes!!!
wildbill,
You need to get off your soapbox!!The troubles at that place were all caused by mgmt that YOU worked for,so don't try to blame somebody else for your company's mgmt short-comings,and there were many!!
How could I be responsible for buying too many aircraft?How could I be responsible for too much mx expense,a bloated payroll,too much expansion,following reg's when you want to,firing pilots because they would not violate reg's,failing to make payroll??????Not paying pilots that were promised pay???? Does Robbie expect pilots and others to work for FREE??Apparently he does!!!These are ALL MGMT decisions,not mine!!Robbie needs to go to business school!!!!
You have been drinking way too much of the Wings Air Kool-Aid,dude,Now it is time for the HANGOVER!!!
Maybe you should take some aspirin!!!
PS.
messiah has two s's,not one,dude!!
wildbill,
You need to get off your soapbox!!The troubles at that place were all caused by mgmt that YOU worked for,so don't try to blame somebody else for your company's mgmt short-comings,and there were many!!
How could I be responsible for buying too many aircraft?How could I be responsible for too much mx expense,a bloated payroll,too much expansion,following reg's when you want to,firing pilots because they would not violate reg's,failing to make payroll??????Not paying pilots that were promised pay???? Does Robbie expect pilots and others to work for FREE??Apparently he does!!!These are ALL MGMT decisions,not mine!!Robbie needs to go to business school!!!!
You have been drinking way too much of the Wings Air Kool-Aid,dude,Now it is time for the HANGOVER!!!
Maybe you should take some aspirin!!!
PS.
messiah has two s's,not one,dude!!
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Snakum
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I really wonder about folks who become overjoyed at the thought of more pilots going to the unemployment line, or worse. Some of these guys have families to feed and mortgages to keep up. And here you are ... jizzing your jeans that they're on the street. You're sump'n else, John. Truely.
Working For Free!!!!!
Hey Snakum dude,are you such a JERK that you cannot UNDERSTAND that the pilots at this place are ALREADY OWED 1 MONTHS PAY since early Jan'09????There is NO MORE MONEY to pay them!!!!!!!
Maybe you are one of these AH's that think people(and pilots),should work for free??????
Facts have to be FACED,Wings Air is a SCUZBALL 135 operation,and I simply call'em the way I see'em!!!!!!!!! Wings Air is NOT the only one out there either,there are many more!!!
If you don't like what I write,then DON'T READ IT,dude!!!!!!
. Truely.[/quote]Snakum;1765517[QUOTE said:
Hey Snakum dude,are you such a JERK that you cannot UNDERSTAND that the pilots at this place are ALREADY OWED 1 MONTHS PAY since early Jan'09????There is NO MORE MONEY to pay them!!!!!!!
Maybe you are one of these AH's that think people(and pilots),should work for free??????
Facts have to be FACED,Wings Air is a SCUZBALL 135 operation,and I simply call'em the way I see'em!!!!!!!!! Wings Air is NOT the only one out there either,there are many more!!!
If you don't like what I write,then DON'T READ IT,dude!!!!!!
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Britpilot
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No kidding, wow.
Reporting Facts!!!!!!!
So dude,reporting the FACTS about a scuzball operation is being a nut job????
What kind of DREAM WORLD are you living in,dude ?????
So dude,reporting the FACTS about a scuzball operation is being a nut job????
What kind of DREAM WORLD are you living in,dude ?????
flynryan15
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Well don't look now, but if you read post by iceywings you will find a bigger nut-job!
haha. try... dude, where's my brain?
CommanderHoek
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Saw that
I saw that and was curious. I did write to them so I am waiting.
G-Force I was not going to say anything but I will. This business is god awful. It's not fun really anymore like the old days. Have a look at history; Pan Am, Eastern and the like and then you can read stories about some of the foreign carriers, Cathay, Singapore and Emirates. 135 and regional outfits like Gulfstream and Mesa and Go as well, stories abound. I understand your frustration and I have been there. But Man it's just a job not worth your anger my friend. Have a beer and let it be. You are going to give yourself a heart attack.
Apologies to the spelling and grammar police as my use of cammas etc might be offensive to some.
I saw that and was curious. I did write to them so I am waiting.
G-Force I was not going to say anything but I will. This business is god awful. It's not fun really anymore like the old days. Have a look at history; Pan Am, Eastern and the like and then you can read stories about some of the foreign carriers, Cathay, Singapore and Emirates. 135 and regional outfits like Gulfstream and Mesa and Go as well, stories abound. I understand your frustration and I have been there. But Man it's just a job not worth your anger my friend. Have a beer and let it be. You are going to give yourself a heart attack.
Apologies to the spelling and grammar police as my use of cammas etc might be offensive to some.
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