Wings Air @ LZU

[G-force]

What Goes Around,comes Around!!!

If they are violating regs, why flightinfo.com and not the FAA?

-Brett

Hey dude,maybe I'm an undercover FSDO insp.getting ready to do my THING with this outfit!!!!Then again maybe I'm not!!!
In the end those sorry individuals running this outfit will reap the HARVESTof their malicious deeds!!!


FYI: All FO's are NOT PAID!!! in case anyone was wondering.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Hey dude,maybe I'm an undercover FSDO insp.getting ready to do my THING with this outfit!!!!Then again maybe I'm not!!!
In the end those sorry individuals running this outfit will reap the HARVESTof their malicious deeds!!!


FYI: All FO's are NOT PAID!!! in case anyone was wondering.

then again you just might be an undercover cross dresser...... hey it's ok we all have our quirks! lol

 

[Citrus531]

I know a former Capt there that had 2 paychecks BOUNCE! They told him it was a cash flow error and would be taken care of asap...whateva..happened about a year ago.

He went back to instructing out of PDK and said "stay far away".

 

[realmanofgenius]

in the end those sorry individuals running this outfit will reap the harvest of their malicious deeds.

tell it preacher!!!!

that statement could apply to:
GM
Ford
chrysler
AIG
Wachovia
Washington Mutual
Merrill Lynch
Standard and Poors
Moodys
Fitch and Co.
Lehnman Bros
Citi
JP Morgan
The DOD
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
The US Congress
Alan Greenspan
Commodities Exchange commission
The SEC

.....just to name a few

 

[G-force]

A Real Expert Here !!!!!

tell it preacher!!!!

that statement could apply to:
GM
Ford
chrysler
AIG
Wachovia
Washington Mutual
Merrill Lynch
Standard and Poors
Moodys
Fitch and Co.
Lehnman Bros
Citi
JP Morgan
The DOD
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
The US Congress
Alan Greenspan
Commodities Exchange commission
The SEC

.....just to name a few

So dude,you think it is perfectly legal,ethical and professional to have someone fired because they followed the FAR's????
If you say YES to that,I will say what kind of DREAM WORLD are you living in????
A lot of people would like to know!!!

 

[wildbill]

G-force, if you have anything that is truthful to report why don't you just send me a pm. I would be most curious. Maybe you make things up for sensationalism. I know a president elect who did that.

 

[G-force]

Nothing But The Truth!!!

G-force, if you have anything that is truthful to report why don't you just send me a pm. I would be most curious. Maybe you make things up for sensationalism. I know a president elect who did that.

Hey dude,did you get my pm yet?? A lot of people know about this outfit and what a SORRY reputation they have!!!!

I STAND behind every allegation I make also!!!!

 

[realmanofgenius]

Well Mr G force,
I don't know how you can infer that my statement means I think it is yada , yada, yada as you say.

The FARs have alot of grey area. Ask any POI. That is why it always ends with "it is the PICs final responsibility". You must have problems surviving in this business. I did a search and is not the first company you have decided to try in the court of internet chat room public opinion. You rant with the zeal of a prosecutor, but the logic would demand that you're at the local FSDO with facts, dates, and flight log copies, or any relevent shred of evidence thay could use. you missed the boat somewhere because my little blurb took your quote and applied it to the current economic mess. you are so far off base on my reply to me.

you just don't get it. I am sorry you are out of work at Xmas and I hope you and your wife and kids are blessed this Xmas. I watched " A Christmas Carol" on AMC last night with George Scott as Scrooge and it really helped to get me refocused myself this Christmas. Best wishes G Force in your time of trouble. it is the year end and you can get a fresh start in 2009

 

[G-force]

DEFENDING the IN-DEFENSABLE!!!

Well Mr G force,
I don't know how you can infer that my statement means I think it is yada , yada, yada as you say.

The FARs have alot of grey area. Ask any POI. That is why it always ends with "it is the PICs final responsibility". You must have problems surviving in this business. I did a search and is not the first company you have decided to try in the court of internet chat room public opinion. You rant with the zeal of a prosecutor, but the logic would demand that you're at the local FSDO with facts, dates, and flight log copies, or any relevent shred of evidence thay could use. you missed the boat somewhere because my little blurb took your quote and applied it to the current economic mess. you are so far off base on my reply to me.

you just don't get it. I am sorry you are out of work at Xmas and I hope you and your wife and kids are blessed this Xmas. I watched " A Christmas Carol" on AMC last night with George Scott as Scrooge and it really helped to get me refocused myself this Christmas. Best wishes G Force in your time of trouble. it is the year end and you can get a fresh start in 2009

So dude,let me get this straight,you are defending the UN-ETHICAL,UN-PRINCIPLED,UN-PROFESSIONAL MGMT.at this outfit???

Here is something for YOU to think about,dude!!
The type of mgmt. at this outfit causes UNIONS!!!
Think about it!!!!

 

[realmanofgenius]

you haven't got it straight.. you're as crooked as a roadmap of cleveland..

For openers, I don't know what they asked you to do. since you've already lit the bonfire, clue me in.

What I said was FARs are written because pilots have to make judgments (grey area)(they call it grey area because it requires grey matter). it is that simple. No company GOM can cover the variables that come up to a flight crew.

How complex can an operation be that flies from athens to ATL?

ON 2 statements that were as plain as day, you have twisted them all around and made them crooked, therefore , No, you don't have it straight. Not by a longshot.

 

[Snakum]

Well G-Force, seems you've been fired yet again. What's this ... three times now? And as usual it is THEIR fault. And THEY broke rules and are unethical and blah blah blah.

John, you need to look hard at yourself. Getting fired from every aviation job you've ever had and then gettoing on here and wringing out the owners/managers in public is not a good sign that you're emotionally mature/stable. Seriously.

Time for a career change.

 

[G-force]

TIRADES of SNAKUM!!

Well G-Force, seems you've been fired yet again. What's this ... three times now? And as usual it is THEIR fault. And THEY broke rules and are unethical and blah blah blah.

John, you need to look hard at yourself. Getting fired from every aviation job you've ever had and then gettoing on here and wringing out the owners/managers in public is not a good sign that you're emotionally mature/stable. Seriously.

Time for a career change.

Hey dude,the pilots at these places that I worked AGREE with me more so than with you!!I guess SAFETY,adherence to FAR's,good MX,and NOT being DUMPED-ON NON-STOP by mgmt is simply not important to YOU, but it is important to thousands of pilots, so you are probably a mgr. somewhere doing all of these things to the pilots at your work place!!
So do not give me any advice,I do not need any from you!!
You dude,need to take some VALLIUM!!!

 

[climbhappy]

Valium has One "L" but on a serious note, you just don't play your cards right. If you think they're that bad, you wait til you're flying and you have a POI ready to come ramp check the airplane. there are ways to get "those ba$tards "if they're as bad as you say. I just think you're throwing the penalty flag on them to their face and they're blowing you out for telling them how to run their business. In the end if a piston banger is making oil pressure and you fly , what say 75 miles each leg to ATL, you could just about choose one of 20 airports on the way.

What are they doing that is so unsafe because you have not bothered to say? sure a current pitot static needs to be done. 100 signed off, but if it was out on the day you flew or ran out the night before and I ran the business and I asked you to fly this one trip and we'd get it into maint that night and you didn't play ball ...and I had to cancel and turn away 6 good customers, I'd fire your butt too. you just don't get it and given that example, I'd say you weren't a team player and you're gone.

so, what were the squawks? do tell?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Well G-Force, seems you've been fired yet again. What's this ... three times now? And as usual it is THEIR fault. And THEY broke rules and are unethical and blah blah blah.

John, you need to look hard at yourself. Getting fired from every aviation job you've ever had and then gettoing on here and wringing out the owners/managers in public is not a good sign that you're emotionally mature/stable. Seriously.

Time for a career change.

You mean you actually KNOW this guy?

G-force, you've been canned from three outfits? It doesn't surprise me given your online attitude.

Sorry to hear though. Take a Valium as well. Life is short.

 

[Snakum]

I know of him, from folks in the INT area.

As a minimum, he was let go from ...

... a 135 outfit in the Midwest ... their fault, because they were cheap and didn't follow regs.

... a small air taxi op in Greenville, SC flying single pilot. They made promises they didn't keep.

... another 135 op in Georgia. They wouldn't follow regs.

And I wouldn't swear to it, but I believe there was a King Air operator between the Cirrus and the most recent firing, and there was a rumour of a stint at Seagrave, too.

G, if one place cans you for not playing ball I can buy it. I've seen some shady stuff in my very short part-time career. It happens. But three or four? Nope. I don't buy it. I am serious when I say find a new career. This one just doesn't agree with you.

Seriously.

 

[pdkaviator]

G-Force dumba$$

"Dude" every post begins with Dude. What are you? twelve?

 

[G-force]

Turkeys Can Lie!!!

I know of him, from folks in the INT area.

As a minimum, he was let go from ...

... a 135 outfit in the Midwest ... their fault, because they were cheap and didn't follow regs.

... a small air taxi op in Greenville, SC flying single pilot. They made promises they didn't keep.

... another 135 op in Georgia. They wouldn't follow regs.

And I wouldn't swear to it, but I believe there was a King Air operator between the Cirrus and the most recent firing, and there was a rumour of a stint at Seagrave, too.

G, if one place cans you for not playing ball I can buy it. I've seen some shady stuff in my very short part-time career. It happens. But three or four? Nope. I don't buy it. I am serious when I say find a new career. This one just doesn't agree with you.

Seriously.

Hey turkey,you are great at making up STUFF,why don't you get a job in the MEDIA???
Go back and live in your DREAM WORLD,where everthing is perfect,all Pt.135 operators are perfect, all mgmt. are perfect,where all pilots are treated as HUMAN BEINGS,and the weather is always severe clear!!!
That is your WORLD !!
If you want to go ahead and defend the actions of this outfit,go ahead and you can look all the more foolish for doing so!!!

 

[Amish RakeFight]

An Observation...

G-force, you seem to think heavily inside the box. Maybe be more open-minded in life. You might be able to hang on to your jobs longer.

If you don't mind me asking, (as this would clarify things greatly) were you born in a country where english is the native language? Perhaps what many of us read is more a language barrier, open to misinterpretation of sentiment.

 

[climbhappy]

G force, please tell me the squawk you wouldn't fly with?

was the 100 hour out? if so for how long? what did they say?

avionics in and out like an old KT76?

these planes aren't that sophisticated. I think if you'll actually back up the allegations here with some facts, you might even win support. with the kind of reply and rebuke you always throw back...a la "kool aid, bleach chasers, tirades, a perfect world...and on and on and on... lay it out there. l am reasonable, maybe some others are too.

you can't get in trouble, just don't name actual times and places or names. we already know the company, though.

 

[G-force]

No Time For Debate

you can't get in trouble, just don't name actual times and places or names. we already know the company, though.[/

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How about not defending these BUMS in mgmt at this outfit,am really not in the mood to listen to it,squawks were not the MAJOR issue here!!
So do not be a CLUCKING TURKEY like some of these other numb-nuts on this forum!!
Do you really want to defend BOTTOM-FEEDERS like these BUMS??
Think of how FOOLISH you would look!!
We will talk later.