What's 357 Done For You Lately?

[sshrae]

I guess I should aim high like you did, and be an out of work corporate pilot....been there done that in the 90's

And Animal, as bad as you say my wages are they are still more than what you bring home.....

Who is out of work? I fly and manage three different airplanes. I have too much work right now, trying to cut down. I assume you are talking about netjets, yes, I was furloughed, but that turned out to be a godsend. Good luck with rah, you will need it.

 

[AnimalTale]

I guess I should aim high like you did, and be an out of work corporate pilot....been there done that in the 90's

And Animal, as bad as you say my wages are they are still more than what you bring home.....

This is how I know you are a child. You want to compare "take-home pay" I can guarantee you this. On the life of my children, wife and cats; I make more than you.

I kept on ignoring your W2 attacks, but now I can promise you that you will never make what I make. There, I stooped to your level.

Plus I can say (something that you cant say) I have worked for Major, Mainline Airline. You will never be able to say this.

So my child, as all ways, I am through with you. However, I will call you out anytime you start acting cocky or be-littling my F9 brothers/sisters. You see, we earned the right to be at Frontier. You on the other hand, did not. I am almost for certain you tell everybody you are a Frontier pilot.

Enjoy the ride we have afforded you. It was almost better to be liquidated, than fly with an immature clown like you.

I hope you do fly safe.

CYA

 

[Cardinal]

And Animal, as bad as you say my wages are they are still more than what you bring home.....

I don't know where you're going with this reasoning. F9 rates are currenly slightly below book, in the process of snapping back and will exceed book rates fairly soon. Those book rates are what Airline Pilot Central uses for their charts, looking at them - E190CA pay doesn't eclipse A320FO pay until year 11. I must conclude that you are a dinosaur.

Book rates do not, of course, tell the whole story. As a junior FO I've grossed 1400 dollars to do a one day, 6hr turn of my own volition. Oh wait, your contract "protects" you from such evils as the company calling to inquire if you're interested in such a deal.

 

[sshrae]

I don't know where you're going with this reasoning. F9 rates are currenly slightly below book, in the process of snapping back and will exceed book rates fairly soon. Those book rates are what Airline Pilot Central uses for their charts, looking at them - E190CA pay doesn't eclipse A320FO pay until year 11. I must conclude that you are a dinosaur.

Book rates do not, of course, tell the whole story. As a junior FO I've grossed 1400 dollars to do a one day, 6hr turn of my own volition. Oh wait, your contract "protects" you from such evils as the company calling to inquire if you're interested in such a deal.

I don't think it is worth arguing with this clown popeye, he has some serious insecurity issues due to lack of something major in his life. Really its sad. To stoop to the level of saying his crappy wages helped his commuter airline buy f9 says something of his character to say the least. If he ever is able to come to the airbus I am sure his reputation will proceed him and Harke and company will be waiting for that checkride.

As a former f9 I hope that this rah business is over before too long and the old f9 can be restored somehow. One can always hope. Good luck Frontier guys and gals, we are pulling for you to come out of this.

 

[Bluestreak]

Book rates do not, of course, tell the whole story. As a junior FO I've grossed 1400 dollars to do a one day, 6hr turn of my own volition. Oh wait, your contract "protects" you from such evils as the company calling to inquire if you're interested in such a deal.

Wrong-the contract says you can't be FORCED into working.They still call and deals are made every day.Carry on....

 

[Bluestreak]

I don't think it is worth arguing with this clown popeye, he has some serious insecurity issues due to lack of something major in his life. Really its sad. To stoop to the level of saying his crappy wages helped his commuter airline buy f9 says something of his character to say the least. If he ever is able to come to the airbus I am sure his reputation will proceed him and Harke and company will be waiting for that checkride.

As a former f9 I hope that this rah business is over before too long and the old f9 can be restored somehow. One can always hope. Good luck Frontier guys and gals, we are pulling for you to come out of this.

So,what you're saying is the F9 training department is corrupt ? PLEASE,please fail someone just for being an original RAH pilot-a Fed will observe EVERY PC/LOFT/type ride,I garauntee it.Some F9'rs may not do so well,either.

 

[sshrae]

So,what you're saying is the F9 training department is corrupt ? PLEASE,please fail someone just for being an original RAH pilot-a Fed will observe EVERY PC/LOFT/type ride,I garauntee it.Some F9'rs may not do so well,either.

Not what I'm saying at all. Attitude has a major role in how successful training goes at any company. People with poor attitudes have issues with training frequently, and not just at f9.

 

[Bluestreak]

Mmm hmmm.What's this sound like ?:

"If he ever is able to come to the airbus I am sure his reputation will proceed him and Harke and company will be waiting for that checkride."

A thinly-veiled threat of a bust ? Yep.Maybe I'll e-mail Skip.

 

[sshrae]

Mmm hmmm.What's this sound like ?:

"If he ever is able to come to the airbus I am sure his reputation will proceed him and Harke and company will be waiting for that checkride."

A thinly-veiled threat of a bust ? Yep.Maybe I'll e-mail Skip.

I don't even work at f9 kook, get over it. Go ahead and email skip! You are a joke to me.

 

[MCDU]

This is how I know you are a child. You want to compare "take-home pay" I can guarantee you this. On the life of my children, wife and cats; I make more than you.

I kept on ignoring your W2 attacks, but now I can promise you that you will never make what I make. There, I stooped to your level.

Plus I can say (something that you cant say) I have worked for Major, Mainline Airline. You will never be able to say this.

So my child, as all ways, I am through with you. However, I will call you out anytime you start acting cocky or be-littling my F9 brothers/sisters. You see, we earned the right to be at Frontier. You on the other hand, did not. I am almost for certain you tell everybody you are a Frontier pilot.

Enjoy the ride we have afforded you. It was almost better to be liquidated, than fly with an immature clown like you.

I hope you do fly safe.

CYA

You sound like a bitter USAIR EAST F/O. I wonder why? I think Republic saved Frontier from certain liquidation and Frontier pilots should be thankful they are getting a paycheck and have a job. What a windfall for the Frontier pilots.

M

 

[Bolo]

You sound like a bitter USAIR EAST F/O. I wonder why? I think Republic saved Frontier from certain liquidation and Frontier pilots should be thankful they are getting a paycheck and have a job. What a windfall for the Frontier pilots.

M

You pleasantly forgot to mention the BB letter that said by purchasing F9 that it saved up to 1300 pilots from being furloughed from RAH! It works both ways!
I also bet that you miss flying the 727 as I do.

 

[sshrae]

You sound like a bitter USAIR EAST F/O. I wonder why? I think Republic saved Frontier from certain liquidation and Frontier pilots should be thankful they are getting a paycheck and have a job. What a windfall for the Frontier pilots.

M

Yeah, I'm sure the frontier pilots are extremely grateful.

Bluestreak,
Maybe your email can look something like this:
Hello Skipper on a stick,
Just thought you should know that on an anonymous web board a former frontier pilot stated that whenever, if ever, the fence is raised and some of our pilots come to the airbus with an attitude problem they might not make it through training.
Sincerely,
The biggest kook on the rah pilot list.


I think that sounds pretty good. You can cut and paste it if you want. Take full credit. In the mean time,,, good luck, you are going to need it.

 

[AnimalTale]

Mmm hmmm.What's this sound like ?:

"If he ever is able to come to the airbus I am sure his reputation will proceed him and Harke and company will be waiting for that checkride."

A thinly-veiled threat of a bust ? Yep.Maybe I'll e-mail Skip.

Funny Stuff. You sir are a stud! You should sue also.:smash::bawling:

CYA

 

[AnimalTale]

You sound like a bitter USAIR EAST F/O. I wonder why? I think Republic saved Frontier from certain liquidation and Frontier pilots should be thankful they are getting a paycheck and have a job. What a windfall for the Frontier pilots.

M

CYA

 

[AnimalTale]

You pleasantly forgot to mention the BB letter that said by purchasing F9 that it saved up to 1300 pilots from being furloughed from RAH! It works both ways!
I also bet that you miss flying the 727 as I do.

+1

You sound like a bitter USAIR EAST F/O. I wonder why? I think Republic saved Frontier from certain liquidation and Frontier pilots should be thankful they are getting a paycheck and have a job. What a windfall for the Frontier pilots.

M

The only two differences is I faired well in the seniority list and I like USAir West.

If you dont know why I am upset, then you are pretty clueless.

CYA

 

[embraerjetpilot]

Bolo...that letter from bedford was totally typical of bedford. I wonder how he feels when someone tells him how slow you guys have started to taxi. Maybe he wont treat you like the golden child anymore after he finds out your trying to run it into the ground.

 

[sshrae]

Bolo...that letter from bedford was totally typical of bedford. I wonder how he feels when someone tells him how slow you guys have started to taxi. Maybe he wont treat you like the golden child anymore after he finds out your trying to run it into the ground.

Taxiing slow! Off with thier heads. Send their flight numbers to skipper on a stick immediately to have them dismissed and replaced by popeye and bluestreak.

 

[Bolo]

Bolo...that letter from bedford was totally typical of bedford. I wonder how he feels when someone tells him how slow you guys have started to taxi. Maybe he wont treat you like the golden child anymore after he finds out your trying to run it into the ground.

We haven't started taxiing slow. In fact, the other day I received clearance from the control tower to use another taxi way to go around an RP aircraft that was taxiing real slow.
Beside the taxiing example, I get your point.
Remember that we bought you argument goes both ways! Just making sure you understand this.

 

[Popeye0537]

You pleasantly forgot to mention the BB letter that said by purchasing F9 that it saved up to 1300 pilots from being furloughed from RAH! It works both ways!
I also bet that you miss flying the 727 as I do.

Hmm, I thought you don't work for F9 anymore....get the #'s right, it was 400 that were possibly going to be furloughed. BB was full of $hit, no one was going to get the ax due to our poor staffing levels in addition to the option to purchase Compass.

For someone who has their dream job now not flying you sure have a lot of time on you hands don't you?

 

[embraerjetpilot]

Bolo... Ill actually agree with you that it helped us out. Many who live in denver, mke, and mci are now driving to work. I think with the economy improving though bedfford would have had no trouble finding homes for those airplanes.

That being said, all this bickering will not help any of us. Many of us here at Republic know how good they are at the whipsaw. What do you think that pity letter that bedford wrote was. He was working you guys against us. It will continue and get worse especially with us being in contract negotiations. Be thankful that he hasnt attacked your quality of life like he has with us. I assure you he felt no pity for you guys, only for his increased training cost. It does not help matters than FAPA made a secret deal with Heller for new hires. the new hires should have been taken off the list period.. Someone should have had to wait seven years to exercise their seniority but it should have been off the list. More appalling to me is that number 1 people had to interview for it, and number two, that it wasnt offered to the Midwest pilots in order of seniority. I do believe that they deserved at least that.