What's 357 Done For You Lately?

[Popeye0537]

Hey idiot, how can you stand to get paid so little for a longer airplane.. He He.

Suck it.:beer:

**By the way, Im still senior to you.

CYA

Ha, Ha you wish you were senior to me. How does that Tier 2 taste???

That and the fact that I still make more money than you do flying in the left seat of my longer RJ than you do in the right seat of that BIG airbus.


Now that we are going to be on the same list, I am actually looking forward to working with you

 

[ChinaClipper]

Keep it simple IBT

Just the F.A.R.s and no JA, makes contract administration so much easier....BTW if all you RA "big Jet" guys are so smart, why are you still at the only Company that makes Mesa look good..... that or the New "Welfare Program" known as the SLI.... Its the NEW "career enhancement system" normally associated with programs monitored by the E.E.O.C. Something for nothing, its all the rage in Washington DC these days.....Respect is EARNED, NOT DISTRIBUTED BY ARBITRATORS.....:smash:

 

[jacksjj]

BTW if all you RA "big Jet" guys are so smart, why are you still at the only Company that makes Mesa look good.....

Do you know anyone hiring regional FOs? I don't. Except Emirates. And guess where I have an interview in a few weeks....

The sooner you stop blaming RAH folks and start focusing on the real enemy here the better off everyone will be. While you are so busy staring us down - WH and BB are stabbing you in the back. WAKE UP.

 

[ChinaClipper]

Wake up?

The ship of fools has sailed, not much can change unless FAPA can derail this thing, which I doubt. The "stabbing" is a matter of opinion, I guess, But the IBT was the ones who want my job, not BB. The IBT spent big $$ to get at it, the IBT tried to tunnel under the fence to get at it faster....nothing personal, but the IBT seem to have a bigger career impact than BB does. I can only envision that the IBT will sell MY contract down the river to give the RJ guys something other than the lowest Hourly rates, the F.A.R.S. and no JA, also known as FASTER ACCESS to my job.....just the facts....BTW the IBT has, by its lust for the Contract I have earned, made a lifetime enemy....seems odd but if stability, low training costs and separate certs are to BB's advantage, It appears that BB's goals are better for me than the IBT's......how's that for ironic? With any luck, my spot in the seniority list will be a moot point in 7 years...or however long it takes the IBT to reconstruct the worlds fastest Section 6 to their maximum advantage......

 

[AnimalTale]

the ship of fools has sailed, not much can change unless fapa can derail this thing, which i doubt. The "stabbing" is a matter of opinion, i guess, but the ibt was the ones who want my job, not bb. The ibt spent big $$ to get at it, the ibt tried to tunnel under the fence to get at it faster....nothing personal, but the ibt seem to have a bigger career impact than bb does. I can only envision that the ibt will sell my contract down the river to give the rj guys something other than the lowest hourly rates, the f.a.r.s. And no ja, also known as faster access to my job.....just the facts....btw the ibt has, by its lust for the contract i have earned, made a lifetime enemy....seems odd but if stability, low training costs and separate certs are to bb's advantage, it appears that bb's goals are better for me than the ibt's......how's that for ironic? With any luck, my spot in the seniority list will be a moot point in 7 years...or however long it takes the ibt to reconstruct the worlds fastest section 6 to their maximum advantage......

+1.

Cya

 

[AnimalTale]

Do you know anyone hiring regional FOs? I don't. Except Emirates. And guess where I have an interview in a few weeks....

The sooner you stop blaming RAH folks and start focusing on the real enemy here the better off everyone will be. While you are so busy staring us down - WH and BB are stabbing you in the back. WAKE UP.

There are no short cuts in this industry. You will pay the piper.

You will get hired at Emirates. It is a shame that you have to leave this country to find a job.

THe Emirates people know that the US has a bunch of "hungry", eager and non-confrontational regional pilots that they can tap into. You will work at Emirates and note that you are a slave. You will also note that you are working for a company that doesnt give you any credit and worth (much like RAH). Best of all, just like RAH, you wont be able to do anything about it. Except jump ship. There is no easy way of getting to your dream.

You will be a slave and the sad thing is, you dont care because you will be flying a jet, bigger than the one you fly now. By the way, you will think you are getting paid generously. Wait until you go there and note that you are going to be paid no where near what the true Emirates' civilians get paid.

US= a supply of cheap labor pilots for the Middle East. Oh yah, no union either.

Have fun draining another country with your eager pursuit to fly the big jet.

CYA

 

[Cardinal]

Little airplanes...he he, my 190 is longer than your 318/319. How can you stand to fly a airbus that small? Penis envy

It's well known that chicks prefer girth over length.

 

[AnimalTale]

It's well known that chicks prefer girth over length.

Ask Popeye how he can stand flying a longer airplane for less pay!

CYA

 

[Black Sheep]

There are no short cuts in this industry. You will pay the piper.

You will get hired at Emirates. It is a shame that you have to leave this country to find a job.

THe Emirates people know that the US has a bunch of "hungry", eager and non-confrontational regional pilots that they can tap into. You will work at Emirates and note that you are a slave. You will also note that you are working for a company that doesnt give you any credit and worth (much like RAH). Best of all, just like RAH, you wont be able to do anything about it. Except jump ship. There is no easy way of getting to your dream.

You will be a slave and the sad thing is, you dont care because you will be flying a jet, bigger than the one you fly now. By the way, you will think you are getting paid generously. Wait until you go there and note that you are going to be paid no where near what the true Emirates' civilians get paid.

US= a supply of cheap labor pilots for the Middle East. Oh yah, no union either.

Have fun draining another country with your eager pursuit to fly the big jet.

CYA

How much credit or worth did F9 give you, Animal, except words, promises and a bunch of cool aid ?
Sounds like you already gathered some experience at EK. Well, here are facts, like it or not:
F/O's at Emirates (or Etihad or Qatar) have:
- income equal to an F9 Captain (or more)
- full crew meals
- free housing
- free school and other great benefits for their families
- six weeks paid vacation (dream of it in the US)
And no, that does not include a hug from their chief pilot nor worthless "thank you letters" or other ego boosting memos.
EK pays them good money to fly a jet from A to B; call it strict business.
Perhaps a pat on the back from your boss is worth more than the above to you, but some people choose to make a living. So if you call this "slavery", that's one heck of a fine display.
Sorry, did not mean to kidnap the thread.

 

[Megalops]

Yeah, we had guys go there.........


They came back to F9.

 

[Popeye0537]

Ask Popeye how he can stand flying a longer airplane for less pay!

CYA

Ask animal Tale how he can stand to make less than I do even with our contract that was negotiated post 9-11.

And also ask China where is my thank you letter allowing him to continue being employed, there was always Southwest who could have come to F9's rescue.....wait, even they didn't want it.(or him for that matter, don't buy a type until you get the job)

 

[ChinaClipper]

Where is my thank you letter from the 400 guys who would have been thrown out on the streets if F9 wasn't around to give business to the little RJ Fleet? The MILLIONS saved from not being stuck with Idled 50 seat and under EMB's? The FARS and no JA, with the LOWEST RATES around? Pride? Making BB a multi millionaire? " ...keep picking it off the bush, and puts in da big bag for Massa BB....." The RAH Section Six process is a JOKE in the industry......RAH Pilots...we don't need no EEOC! We gotz da IBT!

 

[ChinaClipper]

The RAH Welfare Mentality....GIVE ME something I apparently cannot EARN! ALL THAT at some ELSE"S expense! The new "oppressed" pilots getting government intervention? Jobs to supplement the food stamp wages ya have? Maybe you should actually WORK for the job and not get it handed too you? The entitlement mentality lives on! Ya'll get the big trophy of the decade for that! Maybe now you can afford a new backpack or blinky wheels for your bag? IBT can eat the peanuts outta my shart.....You ma have the job, but ou will NEVER HAVE THE REPECT! Nancy Stuke lives......

 

[The Drizzle]

I can't wait for ChinaClipper and Popeye to straight up brick on each others' chest.

 

[AnimalTale]

How much credit or worth did F9 give you, Animal, except words, promises and a bunch of cool aid ?
Sounds like you already gathered some experience at EK. Well, here are facts, like it or not:
F/O's at Emirates (or Etihad or Qatar) have:
- income equal to an F9 Captain (or more)
- full crew meals
- free housing
- free school and other great benefits for their families
- six weeks paid vacation (dream of it in the US)
And no, that does not include a hug from their chief pilot nor worthless "thank you letters" or other ego boosting memos.
EK pays them good money to fly a jet from A to B; call it strict business.
Perhaps a pat on the back from your boss is worth more than the above to you, but some people choose to make a living. So if you call this "slavery", that's one heck of a fine display.
Sorry, did not mean to kidnap the thread.

You are right about the false promises of Frontier. However dont be too quick to salivate over the compensation/benefit package at Ek or the rest of the ME airlines. TRUST me on this one, please.

Cya

 

[AnimalTale]

Ask animal Tale how he can stand to make less than I do even with our contract that was negotiated post 9-11.

And also ask China where is my thank you letter allowing him to continue being employed, there was always Southwest who could have come to F9's rescue.....wait, even they didn't want it.(or him for that matter, don't buy a type until you get the job)

You are a lost cause. You will never understand. Enjoy making that HUGE salary of yours. After all you are a big time Major Airline Pilot.<--As you said "look at my signature line in red below".

Captain Popeye, I hope my family is never on one of your airplanes.

CYA

 

[Black Sheep]

Yeah, we had guys go there.........


They came back to F9.

Living in the desert is not for every one. Did they really come back because they preferred F9 over Emirates for whatever reason or did they come back because living over seas, in a different culture and far from home cannot pay enough for some ?

While it may feel good for some F9'ers to see pilots return, I strongly doubt Frontier Airlines is their primary reason to come home (though nothing wrong with that).

 

[ChinaClipper]

Funny thing is, unless BB and Co can get it dialed in FAST, the issue of who flies what in 7 years will be moot. The operation is a mess, no leadership, no vision, no goal....RAH neer thought they could lose money so fast.....the are CLEARLY woeing the day Sean Menke left...I'll say it again, the irony of BB's Goals being better for me than a Truck Drivers Union is more than I can stand. Signed, former IAM Shop Steward, ALPA Rep, (fired once for Union Shenanigan's) and participant in 3 Union Drives......

 

[sshrae]

Ask animal Tale how he can stand to make less than I do even with our contract that was negotiated post 9-11.

And also ask China where is my thank you letter allowing him to continue being employed, there was always Southwest who could have come to F9's rescue.....wait, even they didn't want it.(or him for that matter, don't buy a type until you get the job)

You really need to get a clue, you are at a second rate regional airline. Is that your career expectation? Can you get hired anywhere else? Have you tried? You work for a sinking ship. You have some major issues that need to get addressed by a professional.

 

[Popeye0537]

You really need to get a clue, you are at a second rate regional airline. Is that your career expectation? Can you get hired anywhere else? Have you tried? You work for a sinking ship. You have some major issues that need to get addressed by a professional.

I guess I should aim high like you did, and be an out of work corporate pilot....been there done that in the 90's

And Animal, as bad as you say my wages are they are still more than what you bring home.....