US Airways Pilot/FA Recall

[psw757]

That is to say, what happens after all the East furloughs are recalled, does the airline hire new pilots, or do the West furloughs get the jobs.

I think what you said is the most equitable, but also very unlikely.

With only 87 east furloughed, I'm guessing out of the 87 that at least 20-25 have found aviation employment elsewhere not counting career changers who may not return. These 40 recalls with deferals ought to get pretty far down the list. I really find it hard to believe that the company would hire off the street with pilots still furloughed on west. This would just create another poop storm for the comapny and usapa. I think there is zero chance of this happening.

 

[flybywire]

There is a requal indoc class starting August 23rd through 27th. Then a ground school class starting sept 1st.

 

[Bad-Andy]

Back to the main point -- the beer and bbq in CLT... I'll provide the boat (assuming it starts after 2 years of waiting for me to return...) and the perfect place for a HUGE BBQ when we come back (at the marina in CLT). I can't wait to see ya'll as soon as we get there.

I'll even be HAPPY in Philly (it sure as hell beats the sandbox...).

And Cactus, I don't know of any guys that found other employment that are still mooching off of USAPA. (Not saying there aren't any, but everyone i talk to that is employed is paying their own way...).

Now back to the homebrewed wine to celebrate.....

 

[LaGarbage Man]

I expect you have achieved Master Brewer status gained from your experiences over in The Magic Kingdom. I left you a voice mail on your Skype account. Glad to see you got the news. Talk with you soon.

 

[clr4theapch]

Good to see some positive news on Flight info for a change.. congrats to all the returning crews..

 

[LearLove]

guys that are recalled in training in CLT will stay at the Holiday Inn on Little Rock road. For dinner walk out the hotel to the right - towards the 85 overpass, go under the overpass and turn left. Up a slight hill you will see Miguel's (looks like a hole in the wall but is really great) - best mexican and beer in CLT. About a 6 minute walk from the hotel.

 

[OnTheDole]

There are (I believe) 142 former AWA pilots that are presently furloughed. The announcement states that they need 80 pilots (40 west, 40 east).

Now to the seniority issue: Regardless which list you use (Nicolau, Nicolau - Lite, DOH w/ C&R's, DOH, etc), the former AWA pilots are senior to the pilots that are presently furloughed out east.

That said, don't you think that those furloughed former AWA pilots be allowed to bypass a position on the east first before they are offered to the junior pilots. If you are looking for an example: When things were great and we were growing like crazy (prior to fall of 2007) we were expected to bring ALL furloughed US Air pilots on board (east or west) prior to hiring any new hire pilots.

Just sayin'....:beer:...BTW, to whom ever returns, welcome back!!

USAPA... where senority matters (but only if you are on the east side, if not then tough ********************)

 

[Taco Rocket]

USAPA... where senority matters (but only if you are on the east side, if not then tough ********************)

Here we go.....

 

[FLYLOW22]

guys that are recalled in training in CLT will stay at the Holiday Inn on Little Rock road. For dinner walk out the hotel to the right - towards the 85 overpass, go under the overpass and turn left. Up a slight hill you will see Miguel's (looks like a hole in the wall but is really great) - best mexican and beer in CLT. About a 6 minute walk from the hotel.

That the pink place near where Wild Wings was located?

 

[Bringupthebird]

guys that are recalled in training in CLT will stay at the Holiday Inn on Little Rock road. For dinner walk out the hotel to the right - towards the 85 overpass, go under the overpass and turn left. Up a slight hill you will see Miguel's (looks like a hole in the wall but is really great) - best mexican and beer in CLT. About a 6 minute walk from the hotel.

Nah, just call USAPA and tell them to send Cleary over for you in one of the Tauruses you paid for.

 

[cactusboy53]

I have no complaints about that, but I cannot see how that can be arranged, given the state of affairs (two unmerged lists). I guess my speculation would be more accurate if reversed. That is to say, what happens after all the East furloughs are recalled, does the airline hire new pilots, or do the West furloughs get the jobs.

I think what you said is the most equitable, but also very unlikely.

Again, just the simple (because frankly, that's the kind of guy I am...simple) thought process: The 142 guys in PHX are senior by DOH, they are senior by the Nicolau, they are senior by any hybrid list submited by USAPA. Senior by all three counts, that is all. No disrespect to our third listers. BTW....what if things went crazy out in PHX and we not only recalled all the former AWA pilots back, but needed more. Where would we get those pilots? Third listers that were in PHX first (even if they are junior to third lister's from PHL/CLT/DCA), and then east third listers?

The new US Airways hired a half dozen furloughed US Air pilots when we were hiring. The good news is they got the better wage & working conditions. The bad news is when the economy took a crap, they were going to get furloughed. The good news is miraculously they got recalled to the east bases during furloughs (on both sides).

Here's another thought: When the company says "Oh, we only need 80 pilots. It's the right thing to do'".....my management-worker translation book reads..."Holy crap! The west crew are getting red flag trips like crazy, the east crews are super-short staffed! We needed 80 pilots 3 months ago."

I would bet that we are looking at recalling the lot (those that want / need to come back) a lot sooner than anyone realizes. FWIW.

 

[xrated]

best mexican and beer in CLT.

"best mexican and beer" in Charlotte??? You sure it's better than Taco Bell and a six pack from the local convience store?? Because I'm quite sure, there is NO good mexican food out east...compared to out west that is.

 

[PropPiedmont]

There are 100 EVLA (LOA - voluntary leaves) 73 East/37 West. Expect only 6-10 to return.

The 224 does not include the EVLA pilots.

Involuntary pilots include 140 West/84 East.

I think your math is off.

 

[Tweaker]

Well, if it ain't right, it ain't my math. That comes from a Furlough committee man.

Cactus, you lost me, but I still agree with your position wholeheartedly.

I also agree that all recalls will happen ASAP. I think that this furlough was largely a negotiating tactic whose usefulness has passed. I would not be surprised by a little hiring next year.

 

[flybywire]

Ok why can't people just be happy that the company is calling people back? It is something positive for once and good for everyone on both sides that are currently on the property and for people that are furloughed. Why do some people have to find a negative in everything......