US Airways Pilot/FA Recall

[Trogdor]

This is great news. This is my first furlough so can someone clear something up for me? They say recall notices in the form of letters are going out. What happens if they send 40 east letters and 20 guys bypass? How do they know how many recall notices to send?

Also, how many will likely bypass the first round?

 

[psw757]

This is great news. This is my first furlough so can someone clear something up for me? They say recall notices in the form of letters are going out. What happens if they send 40 east letters and 20 guys bypass? How do they know how many recall notices to send?

Also, how many will likely bypass the first round?

I would think that at least the initial 40 east recalls are likely to go to the 190 and that anyone with some sort of decent paying job would be foolish to come back on the first call.

I do think there are quite a few people that have found other employment by the way.

 

[CheapFlyer]

Congrats to the furloughees that choose to go back!

Being furloughed, especially in this economy, sucks.

 

[JAB31]

If we were previously on the 190 and have been furloughed for over 1.5 years....what kinda training do we go through if we get recalled back on the 190? I heard anything less than 2 years is some kind of short course.? I can't find that info anywhere..

 

[elguapo9]

If we were previously on the 190 and have been furloughed for over 1.5 years....what kinda training do we go through if we get recalled back on the 190? I heard anything less than 2 years is some kind of short course.? I can't find that info anywhere..

I think 3 times around the patch and you're good to go....

Seriously, I have no idea.

 

[LittleDeuce]

If we were previously on the 190 and have been furloughed for over 1.5 years....what kinda training do we go through if we get recalled back on the 190? I heard anything less than 2 years is some kind of short course.? I can't find that info anywhere..

We have a Long Requal (10-24 Months) and a Short Requal (120 days -10 Months).

My guess is you will go through a full initial after the Requal Indoc because you have not been actively flying a US Airways aircraft.

It's also easier from a scheduling standpoint if you are a paired crew with someone who is upgrading.

We are going to be very busy in October. We all have been waiting for this announcement for a few months. Lots of good news today.

If you still have access to Wings, you can download all the manuals.

Welcome Back!

 

[241BlujucCktl]

Don't quote me on this, but I think if u have been off the equipment for less than 2 years, they will put u n a long/short course. No, i'm not making the name up. It consists of 3 days of ground school (each day 1/2 systems, 1/2 instrument procedures trainer). Then 5 total sim sessions (2 sims and then a MV followed by 1 more and then a loft). Then on to OE.

 

[johnnyb]

This is great news. This is my first furlough so can someone clear something up for me? They say recall notices in the form of letters are going out. What happens if they send 40 east letters and 20 guys bypass? How do they know how many recall notices to send?

Also, how many will likely bypass the first round?

Recall rates, overall, are roughly 65%.

The letters are going out Monday for a Sept1st class. Plenty of time to send out the first batch and see who accepts or passes.

 

[johnnyb]

Treated as if you were a new hire. Drug test, finger printing, week of Indoc then full initial.

 

[241BlujucCktl]

Welcome back to all, East and West. Furlough blows. Hopefully, we have turned the corner and u will be gainfully employed as long as u want to be. God willing.

 

[Bringupthebird]

I would think that at least the initial 40 east recalls are likely to go to the 190 and that anyone with some sort of decent paying job would be foolish to come back on the first call.

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How many of those folks with the decent paying jobs are having USAPA (i.e east and west pilots through involuntary assessment) pay their medical insurance? USAPA won't say.

 

[Tweaker]

There are 100 EVLA (LOA - voluntary leaves) 73 East/37 West. Expect only 6-10 to return.

The 224 does not include the EVLA pilots.

Involuntary pilots include 140 West/84 East.

 

[cactusboy53]

There are (I believe) 142 former AWA pilots that are presently furloughed. The announcement states that they need 80 pilots (40 west, 40 east).

Now to the seniority issue: Regardless which list you use (Nicolau, Nicolau - Lite, DOH w/ C&R's, DOH, etc), the former AWA pilots are senior to the pilots that are presently furloughed out east.

That said, don't you think that those furloughed former AWA pilots be allowed to bypass a position on the east first before they are offered to the junior pilots. If you are looking for an example: When things were great and we were growing like crazy (prior to fall of 2007) we were expected to bring ALL furloughed US Air pilots on board (east or west) prior to hiring any new hire pilots.

Just sayin'....:beer:...BTW, to whom ever returns, welcome back!!

 

[Tweaker]

Cactus, I think I understand what you are saying. I agree that that would be fair, but as my friend tells his kid, the fair is where you go to eat cotton candy.

I have no complaints about that, but I cannot see how that can be arranged, given the state of affairs (two unmerged lists). I guess my speculation would be more accurate if reversed. That is to say, what happens after all the East furloughs are recalled, does the airline hire new pilots, or do the West furloughs get the jobs.

I think what you said is the most equitable, but also very unlikely.

Let's see how long we can steer clear of the animosity. We are almost to page 3!

 

[psw757]

There are 100 EVLA (LOA - voluntary leaves) 73 East/37 West. Expect only 6-10 to return.

The 224 does not include the EVLA pilots.

Involuntary pilots include 140 West/84 East.

Pretty sure what I've been hearing from the USAPA folk is that all involuntary furloughs will be brought back before any of the evla's. Maybe someone else has a little more info on this??