Well, well...I say let's checkin with reality. 6 UAL jets reposessed by creditors 2 weeks ago. US house voted NOT to allow PBCG to assume UAL's massive pension problem. Senate votes next week. The real mccoy will be show when UAL mgmt reports to the Court this week. I think the UAL problem has been in the making since the mid 90's. I was very suprised to hear that while making record profits in the 90's UAL was paying the bear minimum on pensions with borrowed money. labbats is on the right track.