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There is a huge difference between wanting kids and wanting to be the primary care giver, 100% of the time.

For us, working opposite schedules so that our kids were raised by us instead of a nanny was the perfect solution. That way our kids got both parents loving guidance. Why did you have kids Rez? Apparently you aren't there 24/7......aren't you afraid your kids will think you don't want them? Poor things....a dad who doesn't even want his own children.
 
FlyUnited said:
There is a huge difference between wanting kids and wanting to be the primary care giver, 100% of the time.

Well.. that is where we differ... Because I see no difference.

FlyUnited said:
For us, working opposite schedules so that our kids were raised by us instead of a nanny was the perfect solution. That way our kids got both parents loving guidance. Why did you have kids Rez? Apparently you aren't there 24/7......aren't you afraid your kids will think you don't want them? Poor things....a dad who doesn't even want his own children.

My kids understand that I work to pay the bills.. a requirement... My wife manages the house and is a mentor, guide and parent. When I am at home we both are...

I can't do both, pay the bills and raise/mentor/parent at the same time. I admit that. I need my spouse and I suspect my spouse needs me.
 
Rez,

You keep mentioning that children are selfish and want both parents home all the time. You also mentioned that it is a choice to be a pilot and thus not being able to be home. You mention, what do we teach our kids by not being able to be home because we are flying, that flying is more important that them.

YOU are also a pilot. And YOU are also not home all the time because you are flying. And YOU also have a choice and that is to give up the flying career and get a job that keeps you more at home.

Why do you keep harping at others?
 
Oh boy.....I thought this thread finally died.

I think Rez did bring up all these points in prior posts 1013dot.
 
Die, thread, DIE!!


*reaches for machine gun to end the misery*
 
If someone wants a kid who'll appreciate them, I'm up for adoption. Playing with tinker-toys and eating diced peaches sounds kinda nice.
 
If someone wants a kid who'll appreciate them, I'm up for adoption. Playing with tinker-toys and eating diced peaches sounds kinda nice.

Dear jafo20,

I love little kids and have never had the chance to have any of my own. It would be my sincere pleasure to adopt you. I must warn you that my career keeps me on the road a lot. Thanks to modern technogy I am sure we will be able to keep in touch... be it with a cellphone or computer. I would be happy to purchase one for you if you do not already have one. You'll be hearing from me. Take care,
Warmest Regards,
Mark Foley
US Congressman (ret);)
 
Do male pilots that marry female pilots like the "Man Hands look"? I mean seriously who would want a partner that is a professional pilot, yuck. Have'nt seen a hot one yet.
 
Do male pilots that marry female pilots like the "Man Hands look"? I mean seriously who would want a partner that is a professional pilot, yuck. Have'nt seen a hot one yet.

Well, you obviously haven't seen me yet honey. :)
 
Do male pilots that marry female pilots like the "Man Hands look"? I mean seriously who would want a partner that is a professional pilot, yuck. Have'nt seen a hot one yet.

Man Hands? My plane prefers the gentle stroke of a woman. You can keep your "man hands" for diggin ditches.
 
Dear jafo20,

I love little kids and have never had the chance to have any of my own. It would be my sincere pleasure to adopt you. I must warn you that my career keeps me on the road a lot. Thanks to modern technogy I am sure we will be able to keep in touch... be it with a cellphone or computer. I would be happy to purchase one for you if you do not already have one. You'll be hearing from me. Take care,
Warmest Regards,
Mark Foley
US Congressman (ret);)

That was pretty funny!
 
You know I kind of got bored with the Majors Forum so I wandered over here. I have to admit that there are some real life issues that you girls are discussing that need some serious attention. As for me,,,Im out of here.....Call it Denial but my Boyfriend and I are very Happy. As a matter of fact,,,I sometimes pretend that Im the Husband and hes the Wife. Were both Pilots and She and I have five kids together ranging in age from fourteen to three. Needlees to say I enjoy my wife. Figure this one out and we'll all know why your so highly compensated.
 
I just realized that you guys are serious about this from speaking with my friends wife........So please dont put any accountability into my girlfriends last messages or any message she puts out tonight as she is not putting out.
 
You know I kind of got bored with the Majors Forum so I wandered over here. I have to admit that there are some real life issues that you girls are discussing that need some serious attention. As for me,,,Im out of here.....Call it Denial but my Boyfriend and I are very Happy. As a matter of fact,,,I sometimes pretend that Im the Husband and hes the Wife. Were both Pilots and She and I have five kids together ranging in age from fourteen to three. Needlees to say I enjoy my wife. Figure this one out and we'll all know why your so highly compensated.

Easy... you are both gay swingers. Next question.

Oh and the reason you and your boyfriend and/or girlfriend are so happy is because you are not married.
 
Here it is.... if one doesn't give up flying then why have kids? I mean whats the point. It bad enough that one parent is done on 3 or 4 or more day trips...

Two married pilots that want kids? Why what are you trying to gain and at whose expense...

I have been married for 5 years and we have kids. We both are Pilots and tried everything but it is not worth having are kids raised by others (nanny) So one quite flying and the other continued. So far it is working out great. If you are going to have kids you have to be willing to make some sacrifices. It’s only fare for the kids. Also, you can instruct part-time at a local airport. Everybody is happy.
 
Well, he could have stayed home if that was his desire. No problem.


So could you...... recall..... parents get to choose thier kids....but kids don't get to choose thier parents....
 
Wow, and to think of all the sacrifices we took working our schedules that our kids never even needed a nanny. Yes, I guess we failed, if failing means straight A students, top colleges in the country and nationally ranked swimmers. How are your kids turning out so far? I see "emo's" in your future.
 
Because the feminist agenda was crammed down mens throats. It was forced upon us..... and the changes that occured in the work place and home. Perhaps change needed to occur but that radicalism has had aftershocks. Men certianly weren't a partner in the movement. I never really viewed June Cleaver and Laura Petrie as oppressed or suffering. But hey, if women feel they needed to create a 'women vs men' issue out of it, then so be it.

~Times have changed...blame inflation and outsourcing...

Just because women decided to work doesn't mean men have to vacuum. If women want to work to "prove" themselves, then fine, but don't forget your domestic duties. Men haven't forgotten thiers. One of the reasons why the feminist movement was successful is because, even though during the day, women became competitive b1tches (men are the equivilant b@stards..) at night... men still want to get laid!! So men said.. fine fine...whatever you want just don't with hold the pootang!!

~domestic duties...have you ever lived on your own!!! With that attitude I don't think men like that should ever get laid (by a woman)...

Women working isn't about providing for families via putting food on the table, clothes on our backs and a roof over our head and paying the bills. Sure there are plenty of women that are in that situation, but they were going to work regardless of the socio-political movement.

~I beg to differ...right now the two of us combined income can barely break even...

Women working is about social equality. It certianly wasn't becuase the unemployment rate was so low. The feminist are about control and power. (let's be clear... I am not saying women should stay at home, only a spouse)

~oh, yeah...is that why I work. Thanks for enlightening me. Last time I checked there are bills to pay

Women defining thier worth via the workplace has certianly had side effects. More than ever, women are/were placing children second or ancillary. (this whole debate thread). But now that women are working thier is no need to stay married. Both men and women are more committed to themselves. Consider families even 200 to 3000+ years ago. A man needed a woman and vice versa. It was hard to survive without each other. Now that has all changed with "Up yours! I got mine!"

Let's not forget the value of women. They have always been priceless. They bring a balance to marriage and home. Just like men do. It is just harder to bring that balance when women and men are working. Just because women have declared their rightful place in the workplace doesn't men should stay at home?! Those certianly weren't terms at the Feminazi Peace Accord.

~How about pulling an equal load...equally yoked together...

And allot of girls are confused. They want career and family. They've been told you can have it all! You should have it all and maybe there is something wrong with you if you don't get it all. It seems that most people would like to have someone home when they get home from work. Well, why hook up with someone if they aren't around...? IOW, from a man's perpsective, if they can find a women who won't be gone on four day trips or better will be home and keep house then more power to him! But working chicks shouldn't be pissed! They've made thier bed.... We all make our choices... And let's not streotype the man as a patriarch who finds a woman who wants to stay at home.

I think women have a different way of showing it, but I don't see the passion in aviation in women. It seems women view aviation as a medium to prove they can work. And don't get me wroing, some of the best pilots are women and I'd rather fly with chicks than some guys. Sure they love flying....But when a crew passes the UPS ramp in the hotel van and the guy says "check out the fans on that 8" The chick goes.. "huh? Wha?"




FlyUnited- I heard a great joke yeaterday... you've probably heard it.

A boy whose mom was an airline pilot and dad was an accountant was asked one day.. When you grow up do you want to be a pilot? They boy replied. No! That is womens work!
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WOW!!!
This is some of the most sexist sh!t I have ever heard!!!!
This is 1950's propraganda!!!

You are telling me that the reason I am is a pilot is that I can prove I can WORK!!!! Let me tell you boss, that is not true. I was a computer programmer, a flight attendant for two airlines, and am currently a pilot. I proved that I could work when I was 15, at a deli. (my parrents told me if I wanted Coach and Gucci, I had to get a job!!! So I did, to fund my shopping habit.) I have two degrees (cum laude both). Computer science and Management. Of all the things I have done, I LOVE FLYING and AVIATION the most!

How dare you say that women aren't into aviation as much as men. You have never met me!! I am also a typical girly girl who wears dresses and makeup. I don't see how you can cliche all female pilots!

You Sir, can not handle empty kitchens!!!

Yes, I am in a two pilot relationship as well. I take care of my boy as well as my mom; and took care of my grand parrents. We do not have kids because of finances, but when things become stable that may be an option.

SIR...go back to your cave and come out in the current century!
 
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WOW!!!
This is some of the most sexist sh!t I have ever heard!!!!
This is 1950's propraganda!!!

You are telling me that the reason I am is a pilot is that I can prove I can WORK!!!! Let me tell you boss, that is not true. I was a computer programmer, a flight attendant for two airlines, and am currently a pilot. I proved that I could work when I was 15, at a deli. (my parrents told me if I wanted Coach and Gucci, I had to get a job!!! So I did, to fund my shopping habit.) I have two degrees (cum laude both). Computer science and Management. Of all the things I have done, I LOVE FLYING and AVIATION the most!

I know Coach and Gucci... why would your parents want you to have a job to date them. They are sluts. They'll hit anything... even you... job or no job.
 
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WOW!!!
This is some of the most sexist sh!t I have ever heard!!!!
This is 1950's propraganda!!!

You are telling me that the reason I am is a pilot is that I can prove I can WORK!!!! Let me tell you boss, that is not true. I was a computer programmer, a flight attendant for two airlines, and am currently a pilot. I proved that I could work when I was 15, at a deli. (my parrents told me if I wanted Coach and Gucci, I had to get a job!!! So I did, to fund my shopping habit.) I have two degrees (cum laude both). Computer science and Management. Of all the things I have done, I LOVE FLYING and AVIATION the most!

How dare you say that women aren't into aviation as much as men. You have never met me!! I am also a typical girly girl who wears dresses and makeup. I don't see how you can cliche all female pilots!

You Sir, can not handle empty kitchens!!!

Yes, I am in a two pilot relationship as well. I take care of my boy as well as my mom; and took care of my grand parrents. We do not have kids because of finances, but when things become stable that may be an option.

SIR...go back to your cave and come out in the current century!

Meanwhile the divorce rate is higher than ever, our kids are on drugs, either given by doctors or gangs and the Girls Gone Wild franchise is making millions...

I don't care who stays at home with the kids, Mom or Dad....but someone better do it.... if you want to buy your high dollar fashion items...go for it... some of us are trying to raise altruisitc, egalitarian, well balanced, ritalin free, productive members of society..... Kids that define themsleves based on self worth and character, not brand names, labels, & the number of educational degrees.. IOW accomplishments and materialism....

The only thing our kids want is to do is spend time with thier parents...

Women not into aviation as much as men? Go to an airshow.... Look at the FAA certificate ratio... Oh that is right... its oppresive males telling girls they need to stay in the kitchen....:rolleyes:

By the way... its called a uterus and men didn't give it to you...its just the way it is.......

Or maybe I can't do it all..... just another failed male in the feminist lens...

Oh and I make a pretty good lasagna too...... ;)
 

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