Thanks SkyW

[Nevets]

BINGO! WE HAVE A WINNER!

The first of the 51 couldn't leave COEX until Dec 28, 2009 at the earliest. XJT doesn't have to give notice to CAL whether they are keeping them or not until six months after CAL gives notice. CAL has to give at least 12 months notice.

 

[GearBayOverheat]

I'm all for a merger... STAPLE xjet... Skywest pilots win no matter what!!!

 

[XPOO]

So, let me see if I understand this situation correctly. The ExpressJet pilots work for an airline that is bleeding cash with an extremely bleak future ahead of them. A company with loads of cash and bright future would like to buy their company and share that future with them. But the ExpressJet pilots want their cash-bledding operation and work rules to continue on no matter what outcome, the sale to another company or ExpressJet folding like a bad poker hand.

I'm adding 1 and 1, but somehow, this doesn't add up to 2.

 

[flynd94]

So, let me see if I understand this situation correctly. The ExpressJet pilots work for an airline that is bleeding cash with an extremely bleak future ahead of them. A company with loads of cash and bright future would like to buy their company and share that future with them. But the ExpressJet pilots want their cash-bledding operation and work rules to continue on no matter what outcome, the sale to another company or ExpressJet folding like a bad poker hand.

I'm adding 1 and 1, but somehow, this doesn't add up to 2.

That's if you call putting 700 pilots on the street on day one, then the possibility of 500/yr pilots after the first year (if CAL says we are still to expensive) of the contract is up. Also, 29 airframes would go to SkyWest immediately, without the Xjet pilots.

We don't call that a great deal or job security.

 

[Smiliner]

I'm all for a merger... STAPLE xjet... Skywest pilots win no matter what!!!

From one SkyWest pilot to who I am assuming is another SkyWest pilot, SHUT THE FV<K UP!!!

 

[flynd94]

From one SkyWest pilot to who I am assuming is another SkyWest pilot, SHUT THE FV<K UP!!!

Smiliner, thanks man. We all have tools at are respected airlines. Don't you wish we could kill them all

 

[Flyerdan]

That's if you call putting 700 pilots on the street on day one, then the possibility of 500/yr pilots after the first year (if CAL says we are still to expensive) of the contract is up. Also, 29 airframes would go to SkyWest immediately, without the Xjet pilots.

We don't call that a great deal or job security.

I've seen this statement about the CAL contract being reevaluated after a year quite a bit. I don't see how that scenerio would really be in SkyWest Inc's financial interest. Why would they pay for a company just to dismantle it when it looks like it will probably fail within a year anyway? It seems more likely that the reevaluation period has more to do with the price of oil than anything else. I suspect that SkyWest Inc would negotiate just as hard in a year for XJT as it would for ASA or SKW.

 

[SkyNation]

I think you guys should vote NO.

when is the vote?

 

[Future Furlough]

I think you guys should vote NO.

when is the vote?

ROTFLMAO

What vote?

 

[Flyerdan]

ROTFLMAO

What vote?

Good point! I seriously doubt that ALPA could get the XJT pilots all the information they need, debate the pros & cons, and organize a vote before XJT ends up in bankrupcy making it a mute point anyway.

So how is this really going to sort itself out?

 

[XPOO]

Without meaning to sound like a bigot, this seems to be one huge Mexican Stand-Off.

 

[Morning Wood]

I hate to burst your bubble, but you do know we operated thousands of flights for many years without a single dispatcher on the property?...

Yeah, but come on. Did you really need a dispatcher to fly from PSP to BXS?

 

[JoeMerchant]

At the end of the day, what can a SKYW pilot do about this........zero. So, more to the point, ask me whether I care how the XJET guys feel about the SKYW pilots. Can't do anything about that either.

And some of you wonder why I haven't been on this site in six months.

Welcome back....We need more people with critical thinking ability.....:beer:


This place is like a SC city council meeting....

 

[Whydoitry]

Good point! I seriously doubt that ALPA could get the XJT pilots all the information they need, debate the pros & cons, and organize a vote before XJT ends up in bankrupcy making it a mute point anyway.

So how is this really going to sort itself out?

So why do you guys seem to think that XJT will be in bankruptcy so quickly?

We can essentially cut branded and become instantly profitable with a positive cash flow. Bankruptcy is not inevitable nor would management desire it. While furloughs may very well be on the horizon, the time frame for liquidation is no where in sight.

And the point would be moot not mute.

 

[unreal]

So, let me see if I understand this situation correctly. The ExpressJet pilots work for an airline that is bleeding cash with an extremely bleak future ahead of them. A company with loads of cash and bright future would like to buy their company and share that future with them. But the ExpressJet pilots want their cash-bledding operation and work rules to continue on no matter what outcome, the sale to another company or ExpressJet folding like a bad poker hand.

I'm adding 1 and 1, but somehow, this doesn't add up to 2.

Yeesh. Do they pass out the kool-aid before or after you sacrifice the virgin to the volcano?

SKW isn't nearly the "knight in shining armor" they'd like to think they are to XJT pilots. Under SKW's proposal 700 XJT pilots would see the street, all while watching SKW pilots sit in our former cockpits. I personally don't see that as a good thing. Would you if you were put in the same situation?

Not to mention the fact that us giving up our scope is bad for everyone. It'll further the whipsaw between regional carriers, to which a combined SKW/XJT/ASA would see no end. JA obviously thinks we're a bunch of spineless doormats who are easily intimidated into giving up one of the things that makes our contract what it is. Just like all of us are standing behind PNCL ALPA with their contract struggles, all pilots who care about the betterment of the industry should stand behind the XJT pilot group in support of a NO vote to any scope change. Period.

One more thing: SKW pilots licking their lips over the idea of a quick upgrade on former XJT frames: anyone who knowingly flies XJT aircraft with XJT pilots on the street is nothing better than a scab.