Thanks SkyW

[Palomino]

Apparently CAL mgt has
different ideas as they have language in a new CPA related to larger aircraft. Good luck with negotiations, it's worked out well for XJT. (That's sarcasm)

CAL mgmt likely told SkyWest the same thing last time they flew FEEDER routes for MAINLINE. I'm sure the same carrot was used on CHQ. Notice how many jets with over 50 seats are flying under the Express/Connection flag.

Zero.

Find some turboprops of large proportions and then CAL might consider the FEEDER lift. Maybe a stretched Brasilia. SkyWesties could even refer to it as 'Big Bro'!

Unlike most carriers, CAL pilots have maintained a strong scope clause. We will continue to do so despite the vultures among us.

 

[Positive Rate]

Sorry if this is kinda poaching the thread...

So how come I have not heard any complaints/comments from SKYW guys...that Inc....is using the money you made for them to buy other airlines?

 

[ToiletDuck]

Sorry if this is kinda poaching the thread...

So how come I have not heard any complaints/comments from SKYW guys...that Inc....is using the money you made for them to buy other airlines?

Why would you? Growth in your airline is a good thing. If my company bought someone else I'd be upgrading before the ink dried. Also with a consolidation in the markets it allows the regionals to gain a little leverage as DAL/NWA will.

 

[just farmin]

Any SKW pilot licking their chops for IAH, EWR or CLE domiciles and/or the upgrades that would follow an XJT furlough should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.[/quote]

That's the funniest thing I've heard. Have you looked at current SkyWest domiciles?
The notion that SkyW pilots are licking their chops is pure "hillary like" propaganda. With few exceptions, its just not true, but the truth never means much on FI.

 

[Positive Rate]

Why would you? Growth in your airline is a good thing. If my company bought someone else I'd be upgrading before the ink dried. Also with a consolidation in the markets it allows the regionals to gain a little leverage as DAL/NWA will.

Upgrade is nice and all...but how about "Inc" will be in perfect position to crack the whip of the saw.......

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Skywest is just taking it back.

They can ride our coattails for contract stuff, but I draw the line at mottos.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Sorry if this is kinda poaching the thread...

So how come I have not heard any complaints/comments from SKYW guys...that Inc....is using the money you made for them to buy other airlines?

I will add fuel to this fire. I as well as most of the old school SKYW pilots do not care one way or the other if the expressjet deal happens. We are settled into our lives and the thought of moving again is less than appealing. There may be a few junior guys who have mini-chubbies over the possibility of upgrading into a growth domicile, but those are the ones who spend lots of time admiring themselves in the mirror whilst wearing their uniforms on their days off. I haven't been called to SGU for a strategy session for quite a while. I really have only 2 choices, go to work and fly my line or quit, what do you all think I will be doing?
PBR
P.S. This is a vicious business, as is any business that exchanges billions of dollars a year, plan accordingly. Sorry for the run-ons Ole #7 and cokes slur the typing skills.

 

[No.W.]

I will add fuel to this fire. I as well as most of the old school SKYW pilots do not care one way or the other if the expressjet deal happens. We are settled into our lives and the thought of moving again is less than appealing. There may be a few junior guys who have mini-chubbies over the possibility of upgrading into a growth domicile, but those are the ones who spend lots of time admiring themselves in the mirror whilst wearing their uniforms on their days off. I haven't been called to SGU for a strategy session for quite a while. I really have only 2 choices, go to work and fly my line or quit, what do you all think I will be doing?
PBR
P.S. This is a vicious business, as is any business that exchanges billions of dollars a year, plan accordingly. Sorry for the run-ons Ole #7 and cokes slur the typing skills.

I'm not old-school(only 5 years), but I agree. Flame on.

 

[nimtz]

CAL mgmt likely told SkyWest the same thing last time they flew FEEDER routes for MAINLINE. I'm sure the same carrot was used on CHQ. Notice how many jets with over 50 seats are flying under the Express/Connection flag.

Zero.

Find some turboprops of large proportions and then CAL might consider the FEEDER lift. Maybe a stretched Brasilia. SkyWesties could even refer to it as 'Big Bro'!

Unlike most carriers, CAL pilots have maintained a strong scope clause. We will continue to do so despite the vultures among us.

Well said! Gotta love these career killing regional CEO's assuming scope relief is a forgone conclusion. Get Bent Jerry!

 

[rogerwilcoout]

You know it may be the best thing for XJT to be bought by Skywest INC. Which... has nothing to do with Skywest pilots. Nor does it have anything to do with ASA pilots since they are owned by INC as well. Matter of fact, most ASA people i've talked to are happy now that Skywest INC took them over. XJT Could actually do well.

Well well well. But it does matter remember? What about the Mesa pilots? They had nothing to do with anything but they continue to receive bashing. I think SkyWest is a even bigger floaty in the POS pool. Ask the pilot group from expressjet how they feel about them............

 

[Ezralite]

Well well well. But it does matter remember? What about the Mesa pilots? They had nothing to do with anything but they continue to receive bashing. I think SkyWest is a even bigger floaty in the POS pool. Ask the pilot group from expressjet how they feel about them............

I guess it's time to drag this one out again:

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3297/skywestratsjpgay0.jpg

 

[XPOO]

I'm sure JA has gotten as far as he is by caving to pilot groups his whole life. There are obviously things going wrong at XJT, and Jerry isn't going to acquire a company to maintain the status quo of continuing to do things wrong. Hard reality, but it took awhile to fix ASA, and now that it has been the future looks brighter than ever. The man has a track record unparallelled in the regional industry. I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing, or maybe it's this new flavor of Kool-Aid that 10nCLR has been handing out. Love the turkwise.

 

[WalterSobchak]

I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing, or maybe it's this new flavor of Kool-Aid that 10nCLR has been handing out. Love the turkwise.

I'm kinda partial to urnge.

 

[Going2Baja]

Do you now really have to ask why SkyW has no union? Continual growth since 1997 WestAir take over.....It will continue.

Baja.

BTW - What has ALPA really done since 9/11?

 

[imacdog]

And with all that continual growth, do you know why SkyWest pilots continue to make crap wages?

 

[SSDD]

And with all that continual growth, do you know why SkyWest pilots continue to make crap wages?

That's the thing, Skywest is near the top of regional compensation.

Compared to a major, yeah, but compared to other regionals and even some nationals, that arguement doesn't hold water.

 

[imacdog]

A lot of that has to do with other regional compensation being brought DOWN to the level of SkyWest through bankruptcy. SkyWest is arguably the most successful regional right now, yet where is the benefit to the pilot group? Is it really that much to make a stand and say as professional pilots working for the most successful regional, that you should be compensated as such? I think I made more as a first year fractional FO than a five year SkyWest captain. Both of our companies are making money yet your pilots are being left in the dust when it comes to compensation.

 

[trachyte11]

Good post, Boiler.
I would personally like to know how SkyWest intends to make good on their lowball CPA. Through economies of scale?? I think not. By replacing XJT pilots with lower paid SkyWest pilots or, god forbid, a B-scale contract? That sounds more like it.

When are you guys gonna get it through your head that skw pilots are not lower paid. There's much more to a paycheck than just an hourly rate. Whatever the rates are in this CPA, they aren't cheaper because of pilot labor.

 

[Popeye0537]

When are you guys gonna get it through your head that skw pilots are not lower paid. There's much more to a paycheck than just an hourly rate. Whatever the rates are in this CPA, they aren't cheaper because of pilot labor.

Really? Like what your profit sharing bonus.....If your company is making a profit don't you think that they could afford to pay you more that a 1% raise or in the case of the bro....0%

Way to stand strong there guys

So what more is there to your paycheck?

 

[XPOO]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the stock purchase plan and the stock grants alone are far and away the best in the regional industry.