Thanks SkyW

[berkss]

Branded shut down.. Delta flying + Airplanes transfered to Skywest Airlines.

Doesnt the scope clause in your contract Prevent the transfer of the planes without pilots

 

[Bushhatesyou]

how do you know this and not to sound stupid what exactly does this mean? was it accepted?

We would have to vote on it. And i'd rather not say how I know. I'm sure the MEC will put somthing out shortly.

 

[Bushhatesyou]

People like you are the reason XJT pilots have a crappy reputations for being arrogant a$$es in this business and ruin it for the rest of us normal XJT pilots (of which I am also one). You don't know what was said in that meeting. Grow up. You don't read this crap in the "Majors" section of this board. Grow up.

I don't? You'll see.....

 

[phishhman]

I don't? You'll see.....

Then I will stand corrected. I was speaking more to the rant at SKYW pilots. I do understand your frustrations, however.

 

[phishhman]

Branded shut down.. Delta flying + Airplanes transfered to Skywest Airlines. CPA for 205 a/c with CAL for ten years, however after the first 12 months SkyW can transfer some or all of the CAL a/c to SkyW pilots.

Oh and no XJT pilots get to go over to Skyw

How does this compare to the deal between ASA and SKYW?

 

[SiuDude]

Skywest would be getting the Delta flying in LAX too, and no more XJT scope.

 

[SkyNation]

what, exactly, was Jerry's 'proposal?'

 

[Jmoney]

Proposal....

I am not sure about Jerry, but I propose that you have carnal relations with rabid goats, SKY.

-I hate your very guts, sir!

 

[Future Furlough]

Branded shut down.. Delta flying + Airplanes transfered to Skywest Airlines. CPA for 205 a/c with CAL for ten years, however after the first 12 months SkyW can transfer some or all of the CAL a/c to SkyW pilots.

Oh and no XJT pilots get to go over to Skyw

Why would they bother going through the expense of picking up 20 (give or take a couple) 145s? Especially if they can take the flying outright? I'm calling BS until I hear otherwise. And part 3b can't happen unless we give up scope.

 

[ewrjet]

Branded shut down.. Delta flying + Airplanes transfered to Skywest Airlines. CPA for 205 a/c with CAL for ten years, however after the first 12 months SkyW can transfer some or all of the CAL a/c to SkyW pilots.

Oh and no XJT pilots get to go over to Skyw

Where are you getting this crap! I just read the Union e-mail!

 

[DoinTime]

Why would they bother going through the expense of picking up 20 (give or take a couple) 145s?

If this is real (and I doubt it) I bet the airplanes would be sourced from SKWs current CRJ fleet. They will need homes as the Midwest operation implodes. I hear Republic is getting out of the CRJ market soon too.

 

[Bushhatesyou]

Where are you getting this crap! I just read the Union e-mail!

Then put your glasses on and re-read it..

 

[BigShotXJTdrvr]

There will be no deal approved by the XJT pilots.

Jerry Atkin and Larry Kellner want XJT pilot blo jobs.

I would rather struggle to the end, furlough on our own accord if needed, cut branded (happening every month), expand charter, and wait for Mesa to die to pick up what scraps we can with our redeployed branded planes and the next batch of airplanes Continental will refuse back to us.

I thought we were going to hear a serious business proposal to maybe give XJT a better future. Well try again. Branded gone (fair enough). LAX Delta gone to Skywest (why? DAL likes the product XJT is supplying there, otherwise they could have had SKW do it in the first place). They would get control of the CAL flying and will use the new XJT subsidiary (gee thanks) until CAL lets their scope go, whereupon XJT pilots will be screwed anyway when SKW put Skywest Airlines 70-90 seaters on the CAL flying. They didn't even mention our charter cash cow which is set to double this year.

What a deal!

Jerry A$$h0le.

 

[10nCLR]

Before you reply anymore, let me summarize what you'll say. Circle Jerk, SkyWest, Kool-aid. Wouldn't you agree?

Ah, the Circle Jerks. They were one of my favorite Southern Cal skate punk bands of the 80's along with Youth Brigade, Black Flag, Minor Threat and many many others. Mmmm, then an ice cold glass of Kool-Aid after sessioning the pool/halfpipe..... Anyway, back to the present. Where were we now?
Okay, back on the subject- Here we go again, another new day of SkyWest bashing..yawn..Carry on as you were.

"All around the mulberry bush,
the monkey chased the weasel.
The monkey thought 'twas all in fun.
Pop! goes the weasel."

 

[twott driver]

I seem to remember the LAX flying being done by ASA?!

How can you complain about loosing flying that you took over at someone else's expense?

 

[erikgigem]

I hear Republic is getting out of the CRJ market soon too.

That is really old news. Republic has stated over and over that the CRJs are being released as their leases expire. Last CRJ lease expires in 2010.

 

[No.W.]

There will be no deal approved by the XJT pilots.

Jerry Atkin and Larry Kellner want XJT pilot blo jobs.

I would rather struggle to the end, furlough on our own accord if needed, cut branded (happening every month), expand charter, and wait for Mesa to die to pick up what scraps we can with our redeployed branded planes and the next batch of airplanes Continental will refuse back to us.

I thought we were going to hear a serious business proposal to maybe give XJT a better future. Well try again. Branded gone (fair enough). LAX Delta gone to Skywest (why? DAL likes the product XJT is supplying there, otherwise they could have had SKW do it in the first place). They would get control of the CAL flying and will use the new XJT subsidiary (gee thanks) until CAL lets their scope go, whereupon XJT pilots will be screwed anyway when SKW put Skywest Airlines 70-90 seaters on the CAL flying. They didn't even mention our charter cash cow which is set to double this year.

What a deal!

Jerry A$$h0le.

You know, these were same kinds of things people were saying when SkyWest INC. bought ASA. Now you don't here that. Now you don't hear about how the ******************************bags over at SkyWest Airlines are going to get all of ASA's flying eventually. NOW you hear how well ASA is doing and how Brad Holt is kicking SkyWest Airline's butt in certain markets. NOW I hear how SkyWest may lose flying to ASA if we don't compete. Is it a whipsaw? YES. However, ASA isn't going anywhere, I dare say they'll be growing eventually. If ExpressJet get's bought, I don't see why it would be any different. Three separate companies, three separate pilot groups...whipsaw heaven...but in that scenario the union guys definitely have the advantage by 2 to 3(single list petition anyone?)...so other than the loss of branded flying and a few RJ's in LAX...what's the cause for 700 guys on the street? Oh, and there is a clause in ASA's contract about transfer of airplanes, isn't there? Some kind of protection from that. Can't you guys do the same?

If you think any professional pilot is happy to see another on the street...thing again. I was furloughed from ExpressJet...that's how I ended up at SkyWest. I chose to stay because I'm closer to home with this company. I very easily could have come back to ExpressJet. If you think my opinions would change if I HAD come back to ExpressJet...you are wrong. There is empirical data to support what I say...all you have to do is look at the ASA buy out.

 

[Future Furlough]

so other than the loss of branded flying and a few RJ's in LAX...what's the cause for 700 guys on the street?

Branded, Delta and charter are 25% of the fleet, hence the expectation that 25% of us are on the street. My question is would the 25% drawdown come from the current seniority list or from the highpoint 6 months ago. If the latter is the case, the sting wouldn't be as bad.

 

[homerjdispatch]

SkyWest President C.C. has mentioned tat SkyWest airlines (not inc.) is working with the FAA to add the ERJ 145 to the operating cert. must be some truth in the deal.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Ah, the Circle Jerks. They were one of my favorite Southern Cal skate punk bands of the 80's along with Youth Brigade, Black Flag, Minor Threat and many many others. Mmmm, then an ice cold glass of Kool-Aid after sessioning the pool/halfpipe..... Anyway, back to the present. Where were we now?
Okay, back on the subject- Here we go again, another new day of SkyWest bashing..yawn..Carry on as you were.

"All around the mulberry bush,
the monkey chased the weasel.
The monkey thought 'twas all in fun.
Pop! goes the weasel."

10,
Nice job with the spike/gelled hair, is that an iPhone your main man is holding? you just need ear buds and the pic is done!
PBR