Thank-you Mesaba

[saabservant]

All you brickthrowers from the outside should know that we were enjoined from striking by a bankruptcy judge, and faced an imposition deadline in late October. At the deadline, the MANAGEMENT backed down, calling negotiators in to make a deal. The MEC had told them "we are done, call us when you are ready to bargain". Mgmt. knew that imposing equaled chaos in all parts of the operation.

I think the mesaba pilots did quite well, considering the circumstances.
Wage recapture, raises post-amendable date, and a 14.2 million claim, which will probably pay out at 90-100 cents on the dollar. And our rates for the jets(if we get them) do not undercut anybody, and recover to industry average by amendable date.

What does YOUR contract say?

 

[saabservant]

And if you think we should defy a Fed. judge and strike anyway, then YOU had better be there to bail out the MEC, Negotiatiors, and pay their mortgages after they are held personally liable. And I suppose you will give 1 for 1 seniority to all the laid off pilots, after the place shuts down and liquidates, at YOUR airline. Right? Kiss my working-pilot A**!!!!!

 

[TurboAWD]

Most if not all 9E pilots realize that you were under a lot of pressure, and that your concessionary deal is better than our current contract.

That being said, the whole thing was BS from the beginning (I realize that XJ guys know it...)

Turbo

 

[Hulk Hogan]

I've talked to a few 9E guys over the past couple of weeks. I was always concerned thay would be upset with the concessions at XJ. Those I have spoken with seemed to be very supportive. Thanks. Secondly, I was surprised to find out that the current offer put forth by 9E mgt was a ways BELOW the concessionary deal at XJ. The aquisition worries me. Any way of working towards a single list (I think RAH is a single list)? Good luck. Oh yeah, the Rat was awsome. Saw a picture in the ALPA mag. cya

 

[Spiritflight]

Suuuurrrrrre. If you believe you'll ever see more than 5 cents on the dollar into your pocket, you need to put down the crack pipe.

The ALPA spin team is evidently still alive and well...

Slam away, I gotta get back to wrenching...

This is the Mesaba MEC pilot hotline for Friday, March 9th, 2007.

ALPA Claim Sale Update
ALPA has finalized an agreement with the firm of Goldman Sachs Credit Partners L.P. for the allocated shares of those pilots who directed ALPA to sell their portion of the ALPA Claim. Goldman will purchase the allocated shares to be sold – approximately 7.1 million dollars - at a price of 97 cents per claim dollar plus interest, if paid, up to 100 cents on the claim dollar.

Waiting for your retraction...

 

[screwed_again]

Lear 70 = tool

 

[profit]

man, this a damn good crack pipe! quick, someone tell lear he was right and hundreds of us were wrong...all bow to the omniscient lear. Isn't it funny his real name is Richard?

 

[SplitBar]

There is no bigger tool than Lear. Proven over and over.

 

[Lear70]

Waiting for your retraction...

I stand corrected.

On this one, it's nice to be wrong. Glad you got almost all your money back.

There is no bigger tool than Lear. Proven over and over.

Funny how you guys keep slinging mud from the cover of anonymity.

Maybe I am a tool.

At least I'm not another spineless Flightinfo coward.

Have a nice weekend.

 

[Monster Buck]

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On this one, it's nice to be wrong. Glad you got almost all your money back.



Almost?.....The average check is about $24,000! Insert that into the mix with our contract over the next five years and it is a raise. I basically took a $2 an hour pay cut this year with an increase in medical costs. After that the increases begin again. I did vote no and was against many aspects of the war with management, but I do have to hand it to our MEC and Negotiators for the big check. Some good stuff some bad, but our volunteers worked very hard. The whole mess was bs, no doubt about that, but so was it at US Air, United, NWA......

 

[Rook]

I wish you guys would just get it over with and have sex...

You know how I know you're gay...:laugh:

 

[Shaheen]

From your comments,

Let me guess you are, 21, or 22 years old. single and mom and dad paid your way through everything? Am i right? Its not a matter of moving on and screw everyone else in your way. Seriously your attitude is part of the problem!!

Well, I may agree or disagree with your post, but what's wrong with parents paying all the bills? Are you saying you paid all your bills from the day you were born? You couldn't even turn over from one side to the other without your parents’ help.

Why is it that in this industry we've developed a dislike for those who are more fortunate than those of us who had to work and get loans in order to pay for our training?

What if her/his parents did pay? What’s wrong with that? Some of the best grades in my college days were achieved by those who didn’t have to work their butts off in the evening and on the weekends because those fortunate gals/guys were studying when you and I were delivering pizza. I’m proud of how I did it, didn’t make a perfect 4.0, but at 3.58, I think I did well. I wish my parents paid for my tuition and training too, but I’m not bitter about someone if their parents had planned well, had the means, and were/are willing to support their kids. I plan to do the same for my kids! Are you going to be against my kids too?

And those whom I knew from college with that fortunate background, were also some of the most down-to-earth and level-headed people.

 

[SEVEN]

Any guess to how many pages this thread will be before it's all over.

 

[XJohXJ]

Eleven pages is epical for a Mesaba thread.

 

[AvroJockey]

...Glad you got almost all your money back.

Actually, it will be a pay raise. The 97% is for those who sold their portion of the claim...for those who took the risk and didn't, well, they will probably see 100%.

The reason this is a pay raise, at the end of the day, is due to the snapback provisions in the TA. With the 900's coming there will be plenty of snapbacks, even after everyone got their concessions back in one lump sum from the bankruptcy claim.

It ended up being a pretty sweet deal!!!! The only thing that sucks is there's many blood-sucking corporate bankruptcy lawyers who have lined their pockets with the hard work of ever XJ employee. The company attorneys were complete idiots, and somehow they end up the being the real winners...I should have been a lawyer. :bawling:

 

[WildBlue]

I should have been a lawyer. :bawling:

You could have just hired Lear. He's a lawyer, accountant, airline pilot, expert mechanic and stock tipster. LOL

Seriously, congrats to you guys. If anyone deserves a break, it's the XJ guys and gals. Pretty tough 18 months. Good luck!

 

[xjgearbtch]

Avro Jockey don't sell your soul to be a lawyer. You'll only get five cents on the dollar.

 

[Billy Madison]

Good luck Mesaba.