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JAFFO
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BINGO!We don't work 15 mins for free on every leg. It's a rarity that we overblock at all. Most of the trip-values are inflated by 20-30 minutes. ALPA's E & FA department determined that we would gain at most 1-2% by going to a block-or-better system. Of course, we want that 1-2% and will not accept a contract without block-or-better, but it's not as big a difference as everyone thinks it is.
Ditto on MSA's 4 hour min day - wtf cares? At PCL it's almost impossible to find a trip that doesn't block more than 4 hours in a day... EVER.
In fact, that's one of the big reasons I left DTW for MEM - the scarcity of lines that started after 10 in the morning and ended before 6 p.m. The trips at 9E are constructed so tight that you're often blocking 6-7 hours a day AVERAGE.
2 of your pilots sat down with me over a couple beers and went over my schedule and paycheck for a 2 month period. They couldn't believe it; applying MSA CRJ rates AND work rules to my flying line yielded only a 2.3% difference in pay.
Really raised the bar there, didn't ya'? Now that you have taken a pay CUT from those rates, you will be well below what a 9E pilot will make.
Sorry you don't like that little dose of reality...
Bring it on. Not that it will help you now to realize how little your contract gives you over the other regionals. Everyone works so much that it's difficult to realize large differences from work rules alone.I would be willing to compare our new POS to any dumba$$ on here that keeps saying the bar is so low. Pay is one thing but work rules is where the money is.
Well, my dear Mensa Scholar, since you don't understand the difference between a bankruptcy judge and a judge who is appointed to oversee labor disputes that either the NMB can't decide on or cases a particular union chooses to attempt to bypass the normal grievance channels (force majeure), you might want to avoid posting at all.OK GENIUS. What exactly is a "labor judge"? Is he the guy that rules in "labor court"?
Because MESABA IS IN BANKRUPTCY! Once Mesaba exits bankruptcy, they are no longer protected by bankruptcy law and NO LONGER UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE BANKRUPTCY JUDGE.Secondly, the judge in the Mesaba case enjoined them from striking. How much more clear do you need that to be?
How much more clear do YOU need that to be? Getting the picture yet?
Incorrect. Period. That is the waiting period for an appeal while Mesaba is still in bankruptcy.It doesn't matter what your opinion of the RLA is. For the Mesaba pilots to strike, they would have to wait somewhere around 6 months to win an appeal (under an imposed contract).
Once MSA exits bankruptcy, IF you were working without a signed contract and under imposed conditions, per the RLA, you would be free to strike IMMEDIATELY.
This is not an opinion, THAT IS A STATEMENT OF FACT. I suggest you check your sources of information, I'm quite certain of the validity of mine.
At that point, Mesaba would have to seek an injunction FROM THE NMB (hint: not the bankruptcy judge), to make the pilots go back to work. The NMB would refuse on point of RLA law. It would then go to the judicial system (hint: not the bankruptcy judge), for a ruling by a judge specifically appointed to oversee RLA issues (hint: not the bankruptcy judge).
The big question mark is how that judge would rule.
Get it yet?
Incorrect. See above. Consult ALPA. Come back with better information.That's right. This is all your opinion, not really anything based on real fact.
Hmmmm,,, that's called getting furloughed from the left seat of a 727 and accepting a street Captain position into the CRJ. Wouldn't have gone otherwise and almost went to Netjets instead (should have in retrospect).And if you are so high and f$%#ing mighty, why in the WORLD did you decide to accept the offer of employment at PNCL? Or might you be an enormous hypocrite?
What was that about being a hypocrite?
What an a*shole...