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[General Lee]

Genny,
Seeing the world? Your mom finally let you put Google Earth on her computer so you can "see the world"? Unlike you,I do not equate airframe size to anything except money, but you continue to think that your myopic view of the industry is supreme. MRJ, when it arrives, I hope to be long gone, somewhere more interesting, again if I wanted to be hired by DAL, it wouldn't be much of a problem, but once again, you make the assumption that everybody wants do do what you are doing, news flash, nothing DAL does interests me, so couple that with the possibility of being stuck in a plane with a mouth breathing, booger eater like you, would make me want to be a lav dumper.
I have spent many hours jumpseating around this country, and non-reving around the world and have decided that I am simply not interested. So there, your wet dream is my nightmare.
So by all means keep talking down to us lowly regional pukes, when your MEC sells scope for a shiny bauble I will fly whatever airframe interests me, and when you downgrade because your company decides that it's cheaper to pay me, I will come to work until I choose to do something else.
PBR

Sorry PBR, the tide is finally turning. Even management has seen enough RJs, and now they are giving us planes to take back previous DCI routes (with 717s), and dumping your 50 seaters. The same will happen at other legacies, too. Quit blaming mainline pilots for all your problems too. Guess what? Management thinks you are too expensive. How wil you change THEIR minds? They will continue to give out flying to the lowest bidder, while mainline contracts start paying out higher wages. Your part of the industry is shrinking, while mainlines are growing again. Most people would prefer that, being able to climb the ladder and ending up in a mainline jet with better pay and benefits. Not you. You have something maybe that makes you unmarketable? You maybe got seniority early on and can't give up the left seat to be an FO again? Whatever the reason, it is your choice to stay at the shrinking regionals. You may be at one of the largest regionals, but as you have seen, regional contracts come and go quick, and in your part of the industry, the lowest bidder wins. Throw in stronger scope (ratios ensuring less DCI Flying and more mainline), and the smaller probability of mainline BK due to consolidation and new bag fees with huge profits, scope is unlikely to change in YOUR direction. Each contract will get tighter scope, and it appears management is fine with that so far. Go ahead, jumpseat around the world, that sounds lonely. It's your choice, enjoy it.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Sorry PBR, the tide is finally turning. Even management has seen enough RJs, and now they are giving us planes to take back previous DCI routes (with 717s), and dumping your 50 seaters. The same will happen at other legacies, too. Quit blaming mainline pilots for all your problems too. Guess what? Management thinks you are too expensive. How wil you change THEIR minds? They will continue to give out flying to the lowest bidder, while mainline contracts start paying out higher wages. Your part of the industry is shrinking, while mainlines are growing again. Most people would prefer that, being able to climb the ladder and ending up in a mainline jet with better pay and benefits. Not you. You have something maybe that makes you unmarketable? You maybe got seniority early on and can't give up the left seat to be an FO again? Whatever the reason, it is your choice to stay at the shrinking regionals. You may be at one of the largest regionals, but as you have seen, regional contracts come and go quick, and in your part of the industry, the lowest bidder wins. It's your choice, enjoy it. Don't blame mainline.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Struck a nerve huh?
You and you ilk let the regional cat out of the bag, oh well, it is what is. You do not understand basic Econ 101, you work in an industry where profits are measured in single digits. Do you really think that you are smarter than all the CEO that run this industry like their own personal ATM?
During the stewardship of your generation the regional model has more than doubled the seat limit. When I started the 19 seater was the norm and the 30 seat turboprop was the big iron. Today the 70 seat CRJ is the norm and the 90 seat CRJ is the big iron. So in 15 short years you "Legacy" masters of the universe have repeatedly pulled your pants down to your ankles and let the CEOs have their way with you.
In fact the only airline pilots who showed any huevos were the Comair guys, that's right, regional guys and we saw where it took them. I will to this day buy any Comair guy all the beer they can drink. So forgive me if I am not nearly as impressed with you! as you are.
Management will give you a little taste, most likely to attract the next generation of fools into this industry. Then they will scare all the big legacy pilots with another BK, and to protect your precious way of life will sign off on the next scope increase, insuring that the next generation of regional pilots will be flying CRJ-C series 100 seater into the future at subpar wages.
Hit the reset button until unmanned airliners are a reality. Call me silly, but I see my job as ultimately more secure than yours will ever be, why you ask? I make 1/2 of what your 717 CA will make, and that makes your CEO very happy.
So while you look down your nose at us regional guys, realize I am flying your upgrade position, and ask how much has that has cost you over the course of your career....

 

[General Lee]

Struck a nerve huh?
You and you ilk let the regional cat out of the bag, oh well, it is what is. You do not understand basic Econ 101, you work in an industry where profits are measured in single digits. Do you really think that you are smarter than all the CEO that run this industry like their own personal ATM?
During the stewardship of your generation the regional model has more than doubled the seat limit. When I started the 19 seater was the norm and the 30 seat turboprop was the big iron. Today the 70 seat CRJ is the norm and the 90 seat CRJ is the big iron. So in 15 short years you "Legacy" masters of the universe have repeatedly pulled your pants down to your ankles and let the CEOs have their way with you.
In fact the only airline pilots who showed any huevos were the Comair guys, that's right, regional guys and we saw where it took them. I will to this day buy any Comair guy all the beer they can drink. So forgive me if I am not nearly as impressed with you! as you are.
Management will give you a little taste, most likely to attract the next generation of fools into this industry. Then they will scare all the big legacy pilots with another BK, and to protect your precious way of life will sign off on the next scope increase, insuring that the next generation of regional pilots will be flying CRJ-C series 100 seater into the future at subpar wages.
Hit the reset button until unmanned airliners are a reality. Call me silly, but I see my job as ultimately more secure than yours will ever be, why you ask? I make 1/2 of what your 717 CA will make, and that makes your CEO very happy.
So while you look down your nose at us regional guys, realize I am flying your upgrade position, and ask how much has that has cost you over the course of your career....

Your job more secure than a mainline job? Wow. That certainly isn't the current trend. Ya see, consolidation and those new fees (legacies have been making over $2 billion extra each year since they became the "norm". DL made an extra $2.5 billion last year on fees alone) point the legacies away from the only thing that allows scope changes--BK. With AA and US potentially merging, that will leave 3 large legacies, with more pricing power. A certain CEO I know wants that merger to happen, to take another competitor off the Internet screen. So, you are way off on the security point.

Your airline, otoh, has a quandary on it's hands. What to do? Go the Indy Air route and get nailed, or shrink with the wims of mainline CEOs? How many 50 seaters does your airline have? High gas makes those uneconomical. You know that too. What percentage of your fleet is made up of them? That is not good. The 70 and 76 seaters are prevalent, but their numbers, even future numbers, are less than the 50s, and airlines like DL are buying them themselves and then giving then out to the lowest bidder. That's not good for you. Now you have MRJs coming? Has it flown yet? Nope. I stated before I flew an FAA guy from HNL to Nagoya, and he told me some interesting stories about that bird. Good luck with that one!

I don't know why you stuck it out at your airline. It was great for you during the expansion days, but now it will turn around. Not only are your 50 seaters on the decline, but so are the props. Great Lakes will probably take your E120 routes eventually. (They cost less) Throw in new rest and fatigue rules coming up, which will hit your most popular trips (continuous duty overnights), and new hiring standards (800 or 1500 hours min), and your airline will be having major issues to deal with. Then throw in hundreds of your pilots leaving as thousands of spots open at the 3 big legacies, and your costs will skyrocket for new pilot training every 2 months for MRJ pilots. (Costly sims I am sure). Face it PBR, you have major headwinds coming up. Enjoy it, it's your choice I guess. Don't hope for scope Leniency, it just won't happen with the ultra profitable legacies coming up here. Sorry.

Also, I could have been a narrowbody Capt a few years ago. I stay on the widebody because I currently enjoy where I fly. I am also waiting for the plane I want to fly in the left seat (737), which will be heading our way at 3 new 739s per month starting next AUG. You never took my upgrade, but your upgrade is certainly not as stable as it once was. The way things are trending for your part of the industry, you may want to start looking for alternatives too. You never know who might be in trouble next. Welcome to the airline industry....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Flyer1015]

but I see my job as ultimately more secure than yours will ever be,

You're delusional. Your job as a regional pilot is anything except secure. And comparing your job security to a Delta pilot? What dream world are you living in?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

You're delusional. Your job as a regional pilot is anything except secure. And comparing your job security to a Delta pilot? What dream world are you living in?

How many DAL pilots have been furloughed in the last 10 years?

 

[1.3XVso]

You're also spineless

Clitch,

Go get a spinal tap. Worthless piece of puke. I hope we vote down this ta. Your prob kne if these guys who are wet dreaming on a flow.

 

[Clutch]

Clitch,

Go get a spinal tap. Worthless piece of puke. I hope we vote down this ta. Your prob kne if these guys who are wet dreaming on a flow.

Holy crap you're struggling to piece together words.

I do hope you vote down your concessionary contract. You shouldn't, however, have voted down finishing high school.

 

[1.3XVso]

Holy crap you're struggling to piece together words.

I do hope you vote down your concessionary contract. You shouldn't, however, have voted down finishing high school.

It's kind of hard typing from a phone with auto correct and not proof reading. What aå fool.

 

[Clutch]

It's kind of hard typing from a phone with auto correct and not proof reading. What aå fool.

Just try to proofread your concessionary contract before you vote yes and fk it up for the rest of us..

 

[jonjuan]

How many DAL pilots have been furloughed in the last 10 years?

and ALL have been recalled (or offered). How many have been furloughed at comair and are about to be at pinnacle?

 

[FOrever85]

You're having fun? I bet you're not. Your life is a mess. And I guess there aren't any Mesaba guys that didn't take the flow up and are now sorry that they didn't.......riiiiight. How could anyone know someone like that? They don't exist according to you. All of you guys are ecstatic! After reading your dumb posts, I think your 5 year old has a better chance getting hired at a legacy than you do. Good luck!



Bye Bye---General Lee

Thanks again general for the wishes of good luck. I took your advice and applied at that United Airlines place. I will let you know if my 5 year old or I hear anything.

Sorry to disappoint you, but my life is great. (But I suppose you know more about my life than I do)

My job isn't my identity or who I am. (It's OK, I know this is your normal comeback when you get mad. You try and make people feel inferior because of where they work) Pinnacle is a job. I like it and hope to move on, but if it is gone in two years, so be it. Pinnacle isn't the only pilot job in the world.

You should go back and actually read my post. I know Mesaba people will go, and yes they wish they had, because here is the crazy part.....

I actually know them!

So since my posts are so dumb, let's see if you can put your narcissism to the side and not respond to my post.

 

[1.3XVso]

Just try to proofread your concessionary contract before you vote yes and fk it up for the rest of us..

You got me all wrong my man. I actually have enemies because I want to raise the bar but been burn to many times. I know this ta is going to pass these spinless fools are eager for that flow. I guess they accepted that they can't get in a legacy normal like the rest. And fk u 2.

 

[IFLYASA]

Sorry PBR, the tide is finally turning. Even management has seen enough RJs, and now they are giving us planes to take back previous DCI routes (with 717s), and dumping your 50 seaters. The same will happen at other legacies, too. Quit blaming mainline pilots for all your problems too. Guess what? Management thinks you are too expensive. How wil you change THEIR minds? They will continue to give out flying to the lowest bidder, while mainline contracts start paying out higher wages. Your part of the industry is shrinking, while mainlines are growing again. Most people would prefer that, being able to climb the ladder and ending up in a mainline jet with better pay and benefits. Not you. You have something maybe that makes you unmarketable? You maybe got seniority early on and can't give up the left seat to be an FO again? Whatever the reason, it is your choice to stay at the shrinking regionals. You may be at one of the largest regionals, but as you have seen, regional contracts come and go quick, and in your part of the industry, the lowest bidder wins. Throw in stronger scope (ratios ensuring less DCI Flying and more mainline), and the smaller probability of mainline BK due to consolidation and new bag fees with huge profits, scope is unlikely to change in YOUR direction. Each contract will get tighter scope, and it appears management is fine with that so far. Go ahead, jumpseat around the world, that sounds lonely. It's your choice, enjoy it.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Hey General

What if XJET code shares with Alaska doing Delta routes as "ExpressJet" airlines?

 

[General Lee]

Hey General

What if XJET code shares with Alaska doing Delta routes as "ExpressJet" airlines?

You don't think Dalpa thought of that? Not gonna happen.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[flyboyike]

I will to this day buy any Comair guy all the beer they can drink.

I'll take a club soda, but thank you very much.