SWAPA NO voters

[slaquer5]

Oy6 workin at The Tran.....no way..... I thought he was Delta.

It is a she ( nasty one at that) and yes works for AT.

 

[Whaler]

You sure about that? I dont think chicks can be fighter pilots...or is that a lie as well....

 

[WOWIdidntKnow]

You sure about that? I dont think chicks can be fighter pilots...or is that a lie as well....

That is not true! Someone has to be a target

 

[IslandDriver]

As far as the no...I might be one...3 1/2 yrs at SWA and only like 200 ATI guys go below me......that means like 1600 above me...and making my seniority in my base lower. I could care less about who is in what seats..as long as there number is above me...it hurts me....and alot 3 1/2 years on reserve looks like it will add 3 1/2 more.

 

[ATLboeing]

As far as the no...I might be one...3 1/2 yrs at SWA and only like 200 ATI guys go below me......that means like 1600 above me...and making my seniority in my base lower. I could care less about who is in what seats..as long as there number is above me...it hurts me....and alot 3 1/2 years on reserve looks like it will add 3 1/2 more.

Island,
Actually, our bottom 449 guys are stapled to the bottom of the SW list. Not much more than 200, but maybe you'll be off reserve?
...hoping for growth, to relieve the sting for those stung the most I'm ready to move forward.

 

[Hoke]

Check it out, the Corndogs now are going after the FedEx guys! Their cockiness knows no bounds, and they fly old 737-300s all the way to El Paso. Jackwagons!


Godspeed!



OYS

Girlfriend, dont be bashing the 737-300. Afterall, check out your aircraft flown profile.

 

[slaquer5]

Girlfriend, dont be bashing the 737-300. Afterall, check out your aircraft flown profile.

She does not like the 300 the lav smell is to close to home with her coochee

 

[Captain Fulough]

She does not like the 300 the lav smell is to close to home with her coochee

That just ain't right. Those lavs are bad but not THAT bad.

 

[Lonestar]

Hey guys before you vote "no" take into account that the 717 will never go to SWA. You didn't get 300 captain seats you will get ALL of them. Well played the guys on this side of the fence haven't even figured this one out yet.

Remember that before you pull that "NO" lever.

I'vee been on a bit of a FI hiatus. What makes you think that the 717 will never come over?

 

[OldManPilot]

As far as the no...I might be one...3 1/2 yrs at SWA and only like 200 ATI guys go below me......that means like 1600 above me...and making my seniority in my base lower. I could care less about who is in what seats..as long as there number is above me...it hurts me....and alot 3 1/2 years on reserve looks like it will add 3 1/2 more.

450 guys/gals will be under you. Plus the SW pilots hired after the announcement.

 

[mokitty]

450 guys/gals will be under you. Plus the SW pilots hired after the announcement.

Well someone's gotta fly the 717 on the Airtran side till 2015. My bet is it will be those on the junior side. Thus, Islanddriver has a point. Those coming over to be 737 FOs will most likely be senior to him. Making his short term life status quo at best, and backwards moving to the west coast reserve system at worst.

I'm a 2006 hire and can see a scenario where my life could get worse in domicile. SWA pilots may be seeing global seniority percentage increases, but in the micro world of seat and domicile backwards movement could happen depending on the Airtran reshuffle bid. Especially east coast bases.

 

[fam62c]

Well someone's gotta fly the 717 on the Airtran side till 2015. My bet is it will be those on the junior side. Thus, Islanddriver has a point. Those coming over to be 737 FOs will most likely be senior to him. Making his short term life status quo at best, and backwards moving to the west coast reserve system at worst.

I'm a 2006 hire and can see a scenario where my life could get worse in domicile. SWA pilots may be seeing global seniority percentage increases, but in the micro world of seat and domicile backwards movement could happen depending on the Airtran reshuffle bid. Especially east coast bases.

It's tough to know what will happen because there just isn't that much information. As the AT 737 pilots come over AT 737's are going to come over as well so the ratio of pilots to airframes shouldn't change. A lot depends on where they put the AT 737's, they have to go somewhere so there will have to be more pilots in some bases than there are now. The whole dynamic could also change if a new SW 737 crew base is opened depending on whether or not it's a place people want to go to or an unpopular place. Fifty+ 737's and their crews need to go somewhere. It does look like the AT pilots who will be flying 737 FO on the SW side will not be junior people. They will be a mix of senior FO's from both planes, junior CA's from both planes and probably a few more senior CA's from both planes for base/QOL reasons. However, in the case of the AT senior FO's and junior CA's once their DOH is adjusted they won't be as senior at SW and will be below many SW pilots with later hire dates. It's by no means a perfect situation for many pilots on both sides but that's the way these things go. Time, retirements and hopefully growth will fix most things eventually.

I try to think a few years down the road and hope that the company has some nice growth opportunities once the integration, fleet and route system gets optimized. International can be expanded, the Wright Amendment will go away, retirements will resume, the networks will be joined and some competitors may have to pull back creating some potential opportunities in several cities. The combined company should have a lot of competitive horsepower once things are firing on all cylinders. I like to think that five years from now most of us (there will always be some who will never accept reality and will be miserable to work with) will have largely forgotten about the bumps in the road during the integration.

 

[carl p]

I try to think a few years down the road and hope that the company has some nice growth opportunities once the integration, fleet and route system gets optimized. International can be expanded, the Wright Amendment will go away, retirements will resume, the networks will be joined and some competitors may have to pull back creating some potential opportunities in several cities. The combined company should have a lot of competitive horsepower once things are firing on all cylinders. I like to think that five years from now most of us (there will always be some who will never accept reality and will be miserable to work with) will have largely forgotten about the bumps in the road during the integration.

That would be nice.

 

[GuppyWN]

+1

Gup

 

[JT12345]

What I like about the new deal.

Less loopholes and less bullsh!t down the road. Most of the stuff I found insulting and divisive is gone. Most of the grievances i saw in the possible future, gone.

For small segments it is better, and for some small segements it is worst. Waiting for the pay sucks for all AT.