SWAPA/ALPA negotiate settlement

[The Victors]

Are you suggesting that SWAPA is not negotiating in good faith. This would be very disappointing. Not only would it look bad to a mediator or arbitrator, but more importantly, it would speak volumes about the character of the SWAPA negotiating team.

That's the stupidest thing I've read in weeks. Thanks, got a good laugh.

 

[The Victors]

Is "stupidest" a word?

 

[redflyer65]

and have indicated a certain amount of irritation at SC for turning the whole thing ugly.

A complete lie. There hasn't been anyone on the internal board upset with Steve. As a matter of fact, I'd say most pilots are fully behind him after the meeting with Gary.

ALPA on the other hand is in a rock and hard place. Coming off as an entiled group that wants all the seniority they can get and all monetary gains of the SWAPA contract.

RF

 

[GuppyWN]

I'm glad you're willing to discuss it, Guppy, but you need to leave the name-calling to the children.

So what is the status now for SWAPA? Do you think that the SWA pilots will allow them to move off their earlier promise and negotiate something closer to a fair integration? Some of the more senior SWA pilots I've talked with don't seem to think so, and have indicated a certain amount of irritation at SC for turning the whole thing ugly.

OK.... I'll bite. SWAPA didn't promise a staple and you know it. You're just trying to incite.

Secondly, Why should SWAPA "give" more? Your MEC pissed away ALL the cash and incentives that Gary included. Now you want ME to subsidize your idiocy?

I'm having a hard time with that.

Fair enough?

Gup

 

[Bake]

I will bite too. At has received its best offer. They turned it down. Any other offer after that will be less. If the next one is turned down, it will be less again. and so on. This is only my opinion but I think it is backed up with years of experience. what do you do? I know, I'm fear mongering. yeah, that's it.

 

[Nindiri]

OK.... I'll bite. SWAPA didn't promise a staple and you know it. You're just trying to incite.

Secondly, Why should SWAPA "give" more? Your MEC pissed away ALL the cash and incentives that Gary included. Now you want ME to subsidize your idiocy?

I'm having a hard time with that.

Fair enough?

Gup

Yes, SWAPA promised a staple or near-staple. This is an established fact.

The question, then, is what will SWAPA do now. If, as you say, SWA pilots refuse to accept anything less, then how can SWAPA negotiate further? And if they aren't willing to negotiate in good faith, why did they invite AT to further "negotiations" this week?

 

[GuppyWN]

Doesn't matter.

Your MC just emailed you that they will NOT be coming to Dallas this week to even try.

Guess we'll see you in court.

Gup

 

[jonjuan]

I will bite too. At has received its best offer. They turned it down. Any other offer after that will be less. If the next one is turned down, it will be less again. and so on. This is only my opinion but I think it is backed up with years of experience. what do you do? I know, I'm fear mongering. yeah, that's it.

Good luck with that. You can't fix stupid.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Nope, not a troll. I've been very polite here when discussing the integration, and have never made it personal. On the other hand, SWA pilots on this board have called me dishonest and a moron, and even threatened me.

That's all they have. Fear and loathing.

There you go again, Guppy. Instead of discussing the issue rationally, you once again resort to personal insults. The list of insults and threats from SWA pilots on here continues to grow.

Again, I just wish Mr. Kelly could see how his "culture" is represented here. I believe a couple SWA f/os would be looking for work if he could.

 

[Bake]

SWAPA dudes and dudettes. If you wanna fight, fight me. I'm one of you. get the freak off of these forums and we can fight it out in the parking lot. What are we thinking. Leave it alone. Go get laid, drunk, drunk and laid, whatever. But get off of flightinfo and any other site that leads you to these discussions. PLEASE.