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i hope Delta get's an awesome contract. I also hope they make way more money than us that way they can stop hijacking SWA threads.

The real question is can DAL pay more and make money at the same time? if so, for how long before they ask for concessions? UAL and DAL already proved that they can get awesome contracts...but they also proved their airlines were in no position to honor them for an extended period of time.
 
puddlejumper101 said:
i hope Delta get's an awesome contract. I also hope they make way more money than us that way they can stop hijacking SWA threads.

The real question is can DAL pay more and make money at the same time? if so, for how long before they ask for concessions? UAL and DAL already proved that they can get awesome contracts...but they also proved their airlines were in no position to honor them for an extended period of time.
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10 bil left of debt. If you owned a company, what would you do? I wouldn't give raises any time soon.
 
Yeah- but they have money to pay out execs 3 times what GK gets- explain that first
 
texman said:
Good info, but nothing new. Southwest likes to evolve, and always will.
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Actually, "evolving" is something new for SWA. They've historically been resistant to change their business model, but have found they have to, I guess.
 
HalinTexas said:
Actually, "evolving" is something new for SWA. They've historically been resistant to change their business model, but have found they have to, I guess.
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The model has always changed. Herb has done it slow enough, so the legacies felt like we were not a threat. With AT/ATL in play, this will help facilitate the bigger picture of things to come.
 
jonjuan said:
Funny that some of the sw limpets here really believe GK and ST can keep outsmarting the rest of the industry, even though much if their success was due to a lucky bet. The gravy train is about to end.
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Only the limpets who have seen it work for 40 plus years, however, folks like you keep advertising SWA's demise on a regular basis...

I'll say it again, if SWA is ever on the ropes, everybody else will be in the ditch.
 
jonjuan said:
Informative article. Funny that some of the sw limpets here really believe GK and ST can keep outsmarting the rest of the industry, even though much if their success was due to a lucky bet. The gravy train is about to end.
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Won't that be a joyous day for you? Wishing for someone else's misfortune can't be healthy for your karma.
 
There have been SWA naysayers since I got in this gig- who think the "lucky" streak is about to end...
That's alright.
Keep betting against
 
IF SW ever flys out of Texas....
SW will never go where it snows..
IF SW ever starts flying to big airports....
IF SW ever starts flying to those congested airports....

NEXT??
 
Bonne Chance

jonjuan said:
... much if their success was due to a lucky bet.
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Once, when Napoleon promoted an officer for winning a battle, a grumpy General complained: "He's not skillful, just lucky."
Napoleon responded: "In that case, promote him two ranks. I have plenty of skillful officers who lose battles."
 
tomgoodman said:
Once, when Napoleon promoted an officer for winning a battle, a grumpy General complained: "He's not skillful, just lucky."
Napoleon responded: "In that case, promote him two ranks. I have plenty of skillful officers who lose battles."
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Congrats on the two rank promo. Must have been cool knowing Napolean. :)
 
The difference between past and present is swa has never been the big dog. They have always been somewhere in between a good regional and a major. Have always gone after the low hanging fruit. That low hanging fruit has not been as plentiful of late, thus the stagnation of the last 3-4 years. The Airtran merger is a very different game plan from the past. Swa has found out they have run out of easy internal growth. I guess we will know in 5 years or so if it is LCC pt. deaux or not.



waveflyer said:
There have been SWA naysayers since I got in this gig- who think the "lucky" streak is about to end...
That's alright.
Keep betting against
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scoreboardII said:
Only the limpets who have seen it work for 40 plus years
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How many years did the PanAm/Eastern/Northwest/United/etc. limpets see it work, before it didn't work?

I wish the best for all you guys, but just because it worked for 40 years, doesn't mean it will work for another 40...
 
Cobraair75drvr said:
The difference between past and present is swa has never been the big dog. They have always been somewhere in between a good regional and a major. Have always gone after the low hanging fruit. That low hanging fruit has not been as plentiful of late, thus the stagnation of the last 3-4 years. The Airtran merger is a very different game plan from the past. Swa has found out they have run out of easy internal growth. I guess we will know in 5 years or so if it is LCC pt. deaux or not.
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Careful, I'm told in another string if you make a realistic observation like that you are a "SWA hater"!
 
Sluggo_63 said:
How many years did the PanAm/Eastern/Northwest/United/etc. limpets see it work, before it didn't work?
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It worked for them for about 80... So...
Not your best point....
But like I said- keep betting against and trying to undercut us on wages...
 
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waveflyer said:
It worked for them for about 80... So...
Not your best point....
But like I said- keep betting against and trying to undercut us on wages...
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Did you really just say that? You PFT fools were undercutting everyone for 30 years with your BS payscales, lousy benefits......And now YOU, a FNG who bought his job, are telling the legacy guys not to undercut?
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Thanks for the laugh wave. Maybe you need to get back to the gym and sport up for that special man in your life.
 
Got you with that line, didn't I scope?
;-)
But seriously- It's been 10 years- lose the belly and actually race me- dont talk about how fast you were in college...
 
waveflyer said:
Got you with that line, didn't I scope?
;-)
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All the comedians out of work and you're trying to be funny..........
But seriously- It's been 10 years- lose the belly and actually race me- dont talk about how fast you were in college...
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I actually wasn't that fast in college.
 
Apologies for the wage comment then- most definitely undeserved.
But that was blatant flame anyway- so ok- so what then is your point?
That there's some sort of lifespan for airlines? That all airlines will fail at X years no matter?
I don't subscribe to a sense of security eminating from my job- I get it from my character and development as a human being- I'll make my way in this world- things at southwest could change for the worse here- but in my experience at 6 airlines and codesharing w/ 3 others- we do things better- from all sides of the company-
I work and act and hope to help that last-
 
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We were heading to Hawaii in January and I heard a SWA callsign from ATC. I said "Did I hear that right, was that SWA?"

SWA Pilot: "Yep, proving runs. I guess the cat is out of the bag"

Brief conversation followed but, I heard it with my own ears. I actually figured this was old news by now.
 

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