SWA announcement on the 9th

[In The Wind]

I love the deteriorating nature of these threads. It starts out good enough and then evolves into General Lee blows or SWA F/O is a flight attendant in pilot's clothing. Seriously, the cockpit in a 737 looks the same at DAL, AAL, CAL, UAL, Citrus, SWA, Kittyhawk, Ameristar, etc...... What difference does it make who flies for whom? We are clearly better pilots and better looking at SWA, but there are good dudes at every airline previously listed. If you want to know how cool a pilot group is, just ask them. You all are welcome to sit on our jumpseat as long as you bring treats and offer to make a food run on one of your three stops on the way home.

Now don't forget how dirty the ATA cockpit is, so the makes them different.

 

[bravodude]

Just goes to show, you don't read very well...

I have never, ever, ever bashed Southwest. Fine airline, I appreciate the rides to and from leisure destinations now that JBlue no longer services BNA.

I do, however, tend to bash you, because you're such an easy target.

MOST Southwest pilots, including the half dozen good friends I have who work there, are very humble, laid-back guys with a GREAT attitude and would welcome whoever Southwest purchases in the future with open arms.

NONE of them are big enough tools to think they're so good that ALL the pilots from an acquisition or merger should re-interview for their jobs.

So... in a nutshell... it's not Southwest I'm bashing. It's you.

Have a great new year!

p.s. Whine, you crack me up...

You can bash me all you want. I guess you have the only 5 friends at swa that either dont want a total staple or for anyone to reinterview. I think you need to go and look up the word culture in a dictionary because you obviously have no idea what it means. I f we didn't hire the first time why would we want you the second time around and without an interview for that matter.

 

[bravodude]

I'm not bashing SWA. Although I've never wanted to work there, I've always admired their management for being the one group that actually knows what the hell they're doing, especially in employee relations. They've also had a tremendous record of profitability. So no, I'm not bashing SWA. I'm bashing pathetic little twits like yourself. Many people have bashed the "SkynAAzis" and "Deltoids" over the years, but none of them can compare to the arrogance that you possess.

I am so glad you said that, you just made my year.
Have fun at Airtran.

 

[IronCityBlue]

I guess you have the only 5 friends at swa that either dont want a total staple or for anyone to reinterview.

And I guess my friends at SWA who disagree with the ignorance you arer spewing here are also his friends too. So far you seem to be in the extreme minority with your views. There should be pages and pages of SWA pilots agreeing with you if what you say is true, but there are not.

And besides that, what if the other pilot group just magically decided that, in the event of a merger, you should all be fired and required to reinterview at the bottom of the list, if management decided to hire you? Would you accept that? What if the other pilot group thought your culture was inferior?

Do you really think any arbitrator will care who'se culture is the best? Do you think that because of your culture you will get one seniority number more oe less than someone else becasue of their company's culture? You will get a combination of what's in your contract, what's in the other company's contract, the law and most likely an arbitrator's decision. None of that will take into consideration culture for one microsecond.

The only "culture protection" you have is your management worrying enough about it to not attempt to make a move like that in the first place. If they do, you will end up in the exact same position you would have without your culture and without the interview process you are so proud that you got through.

Maybe you got a tad arrogant because you think that because your company bought some ATA assets and they only got interviews, that any and all mergers/acquisitons/takeovers/etc will go that way as a matter of your superior culture. You are both wrong in fact and extremely arrogant in opinion. Your culture will not overcome contracts and labor law, except maybe in your dreams.

 

[Lear70]

And I guess my friends at SWA who disagree with the ignorance you arer spewing here are also his friends too. So far you seem to be in the extreme minority with your views. There should be pages and pages of SWA pilots agreeing with you if what you say is true, but there are not.

Maybe you got a tad arrogant because you think that because your company bought some ATA assets and they only got interviews, that any and all mergers/acquisitons/takeovers/etc will go that way as a matter of your superior culture. You are both wrong in fact and extremely arrogant in opinion.

DINGDINGDINGDING!!

We have a winner!

I'm very glad that, of my too-numerous-to-count commutes on SWA to DTW for 3 years straight, the many great Southwest people I met (and continue to meet) have NEVER displayed your level of sheer arrogance.

Just goes to show, there's toolbags at every airline, no matter how good the interview process. uke:

 

[bravodude]

And I guess my friends at SWA who disagree with the ignorance you arer spewing here are also his friends too. So far you seem to be in the extreme minority with your views. There should be pages and pages of SWA pilots agreeing with you if what you say is true, but there are not.

And besides that, what if the other pilot group just magically decided that, in the event of a merger, you should all be fired and required to reinterview at the bottom of the list, if management decided to hire you? Would you accept that? What if the other pilot group thought your culture was inferior?

Do you really think any arbitrator will care who'se culture is the best? Do you think that because of your culture you will get one seniority number more oe less than someone else becasue of their company's culture? You will get a combination of what's in your contract, what's in the other company's contract, the law and most likely an arbitrator's decision. None of that will take into consideration culture for one microsecond.

The only "culture protection" you have is your management worrying enough about it to not attempt to make a move like that in the first place. If they do, you will end up in the exact same position you would have without your culture and without the interview process you are so proud that you got through.

Maybe you got a tad arrogant because you think that because your company bought some ATA assets and they only got interviews, that any and all mergers/acquisitons/takeovers/etc will go that way as a matter of your superior culture. You are both wrong in fact and extremely arrogant in opinion. Your culture will not overcome contracts and labor law, except maybe in your dreams.[/quote

If thats the case i tell you what go ask your friends for their login info to our union website and see for yourself. second if your friends are not man enough to tell you how they feel thats not my problem again i say go look at our website. And last that is why in the end we will never buy anyone if anything we will by airplanes. culture is what has made this company such a great place to work and if you or lear 70 think that mgt or the union or the pilot group is going to throw that away than you are saddly mistaken. If you can tell me that you would just sit back and watch your sen. number just slip away because your company bought someone that you are better person then me but I think you would be right there asking for a staple.
Like I said before there are plenty of threads about airlines other then SW go troll somewhere else and stop acting like a jeolus little girl.

 

[bravodude]

DINGDINGDINGDING!!

We have a winner!

I'm very glad that, of my too-numerous-to-count commutes on SWA to DTW for 3 years straight, the many great Southwest people I met (and continue to meet) have NEVER displayed your level of sheer arrogance.

Just goes to show, there's toolbags at every airline, no matter how good the interview process. uke:

You know I have some choicewords I would like to say but unlike you I will take the high road.

 

[IronCityBlue]

You know I have some choicewords I would like to say but unlike you I will take the high road.

Yeah, gotta start with that sometime, right?

As far advocating a staple, that's fine. Go for the most you can. That doesn't bother me. But so will the other group. Do you really think an arbitrator will give you a windfall because of your culture? Dude, with all due respect to your mostly first class pilot group, and don't take this personally or let it tarnish your hiring process based identity, okay? But NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No arbitrator is going to award you the other group being stapled because of your culture, and certainlly not the other group being fired in their entirety and being forced to reinterview. Its just not going to happen. If you get to staple a group it will be because of what's in or not in their contract, labor law, and many other things, not one of which is your culture, no matter how good it is.

Now, maybe you will only "buy airplanes" as you say. You are already doing that though, from Boeing. But in addition you are selling and deferring airplanes. Its not airframes that you need. You very well may be in a position to benefit logistically from buying an airline. If you do, and Gary has repeatedly said its a consideration, that other airline's pilot group will get the result of their contract, labor law and most likely an arbitrator's decision. Culture applies to neither.

Your arrogance is sickening.

 

[USMC319]

Bravodude,
You are a walking contradiction to the Southwest culture and to your peers. Get a clue.

 

[Whine Lover]

"Cul-ture: Biology - A growth or culture as in bacteria."

I got yer' "culture" right here B.D. you penis eating Microbe.

Happy New Year!


YKW

 

[Frap]

I got yer' "culture" right here B.D. you penis eating Microbe.


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THAT is outstanding...

 

[FlyByNight1]

you all are bush-league

 

[Lear70]

you all are bush-league

Yeah, I know... but I *LIKE* bush (in the non-presidential meaning of the term).

You got a problem with that?

:beer:

 

[WNC Flyer]

This thread's gone down the toilet... Of course it was based on hearsay anyway.

Go Redskins!

 

[TV9Driver]

I'm sorry, did I stumble on the TWA/AA merger discussion??? It seems that i've smelled this filth before.

When are people going to realize that we are only flying at the airline we are flying at because we knew someone there who got us an interiview. It has nothing to do with how good you are or think you are. WE ARE ALL BUS DRIVERS.

Good luck to everyone.