Stop the divisive SWA AAI stuff

[dicko]

Fortunately, Maru, you wannabe-scab has-been, nobody here cares about your opinion on anything, especially unions.

Jes' sayin'.

Bubba

I quoted this post because it amused me, and the relevant one above read like War and Peace

Yes, the vast majority of AirTran Captains are pissed off about what happened, and how it happened. No, that doesn't mean they arrive in the cockpit frothing at the mouth (hopefully). You understand that it's possible to be 'happy to be here' and pissed off at the same time ........ Don't you ?




N.B. "Vast majority" = greater than 90%. The word "all" doesn't apply to pilots.

 

[General Lee]

I quoted this post because it amused me, and the relevant one above read like War and Peace

Yes, the vast majority of AirTran Captains are pissed off about what happened, and how it happened. No, that doesn't mean they arrive in the cockpit frothing at the mouth (hopefully). You understand that it's possible to be 'happy to be here' and pissed off at the same time ........ Don't you ?




N.B. "Vast majority" = greater than 90%. The word "all" doesn't apply to pilots.

Well there you go. I never said they were going "NUTS"' in the jetway, but the overwhelming majority don't like how it ended up. Arbitration would have been the way to go, primarily because it places the blame on the arbitrators, not each other. Corndog management played favorites, and that is never a good idea.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[SWA Bubba]

Well there you go. I never said they were going "NUTS"' in the jetway, but the overwhelming majority don't like how it ended up. Arbitration would have been the way to go, primarily because it places the blame on the arbitrators, not each other. Corndog management played favorites, and that is never a good idea.



Bye Bye---General Lee

You said they "are" upset ("every AT 737 Capt is upset"), as in currently and/or actively. I said I don't see that, and think most people on both sides are over it and ready to move forward.

And as to the actual point of this thread, it's dumbasses like you (well, mainly you, to be honest) who keep stirring this issue up on FI just to provoke a reaction, or to deflect away from any criticism of yourself or Mother Delta.

Bubba

 

[SWA Bubba]

I quoted this post because it amused me, and the relevant one above read like War and Peace

Yes, the vast majority of AirTran Captains are pissed off about what happened, and how it happened. No, that doesn't mean they arrive in the cockpit frothing at the mouth (hopefully). You understand that it's possible to be 'happy to be here' and pissed off at the same time ........ Don't you ?




N.B. "Vast majority" = greater than 90%. The word "all" doesn't apply to pilots.

Glad I could amuse you, Dicko; it's what I'm here for.

Bubba

 

[General Lee]

You said they "are" upset ("every AT 737 Capt is upset"), as in currently and/or actively. I said I don't see that, and think most people on both sides are over it and ready to move forward.

And as to the actual point of this thread, it's dumbasses like you (well, mainly you, to be honest) who keep stirring this issue up on FI just to provoke a reaction, or to deflect away from any criticism of yourself or Mother Delta.

Bubba

I didn't even start this thread Bubba, but I don't mind commenting. And what you say makes NO sense. Of course every 737 Capt at AT is upset to move to the right seat. To say otherwise is pure buffoonery. What I am saying is because your group went at the SLI the wrong way, it will have lasting implications. You'll have to deal with that.

And your explanation of the "B-scale for the same plane" is also ridiculous. Divide and conquer, something your union let management do. Notice that was NOT the case at DL, and I gave the 757/767 as a perfect example. Plus, your bosses kept charging for bags on the AT side, and that could have paid for the difference, but your union must have forgotten they could have demanded that. DALPA didn't forget. Admit it, you guys botched it. And, quit getting upset yourself. Don't get personal, please.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

There is only one reason Genny comments on threads like this...

It's an angle for him to have a good dig at the Southwest. Could it have been done differently? Sure. Does that matter now? Not really.

I'm sure Genny will be railing on this for several more years, even though the agreement was done almost 3 years ago now. Don't be fooled, he's never cared about AirTran guys before. But know he sees an opening against the SW guys..so he tries stoke the fire.

He's been pissed at SW for over a decade, and that's just 'NUTS'.

 

[SWAdude]

There is one thing that has proven certain in this business.

There will always be something like deregulation, the Gulf War, and 9/11 that will throw the legacies into a tail spin because although they feel good right now, they are not in a position to weather such horrible affects to our industry.

But SWA is in the position to go on without the fear of bankruptcy, furloughs, etc.

It is just a matter of time Jenny will change its tune.

 

[General Lee]

There is only one reason Genny comments on threads like this...

It's an angle for him to have a good dig at the Southwest. Could it have been done differently? Sure. Does that matter now? Not really.

I'm sure Genny will be railing on this for several more years, even though the agreement was done almost 3 years ago now. Don't be fooled, he's never cared about AirTran guys before. But know he sees an opening against the SW guys..so he tries stoke the fire.

He's been pissed at SW for over a decade, and that's just 'NUTS'.

Wow, we gotta modern day Dr. Joyce Brothers here..... Except she's a HE, and He eats disgusting quesadillas at the Lubbock La Quinta....

I was a bit skeptical when I first heard that SWA and AT were going to merge, but I hoped that it would be a "good" merger for everyone involved. I thought the Cornies had watched a couple before their's, consisting of one "right" way ( DL/ NW) and one "wrong" way (US/AWA). After watching the results of each, I was sure the Corndogs would figure out the way to strengthen their group, and make it an even tougher competitor.

But nooooooooooo. They had to pull shenanigans, get greedy, and then treat the other side like second rate pilots. That's why I revist this topic Joyce. I don't like bullies. And I know many AT guys here in ATL. They can't wait to commute to OAK and LAS when they eventually upgrade back into their previous seat....

And the best part Joyce is that you and Bubba can't see the WRONG that was imposed on the AT guys/gals. I hope you both eventually do. Stop the excuses! Exorcise the demons! Hallelujah!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Nindiri]

Life is not always about you.

Actually, it is. It's about making the most money for the least amount of work possible, and having a reasonably good time with my coworkers while I'm doing it.

None of this rah rah Gary is Great culture warriors going the extra mile nonsense, though. That boat sailed a few years ago. Now it's just a job like many others.

 

[SWAdude]

None of this rah rah Gary is Great culture warriors going the extra mile nonsense, though. That boat sailed a few years ago. Now it's just a job like many others.

I completely disagree.

SWA has always chosen people enjoyable to work with and will continue to do so.

Although the five year upgrades would eventually be something of the past, SWA has never been financially better because of Gary.

And that is the good news to many of us.

 

[General Lee]

There is one thing that has proven certain in this business.

There will always be something like deregulation, the Gulf War, and 9/11 that will throw the legacies into a tail spin because although they feel good right now, they are not in a position to weather such horrible affects to our industry.

But SWA is in the position to go on without the fear of bankruptcy, furloughs, etc.

It is just a matter of time Jenny will change its tune.

Wow. That might be the cockiest post I have ever read. Good luck on never having a problem, ever......


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[SWAdude]

Wow. That might be the cockiest post I have ever read. Good luck on never having a problem, ever......


Bye Bye---General Lee

You saying I have the cockiest post ever?!?!?!?

Do you read your own crap?

 

[General Lee]

I completely disagree.

SWA has always chosen people enjoyable to work with and will continue to do so.

Although the five year upgrades would eventually be something of the past, SWA has never been financially better because of Gary.

And that is the good news to many of us.

What flavor Kool-Aid are you guzzling? You can't get enough. You are actually choking! It looks like you are choking on your own vomit! Yikes!

Somebody help SWAdude! He's choking! Oh wait, he surrounded by AT guys.... Never mind..... So, who's got his eulogy? I do, here it goes:

"SWAdude....was....uhhhh.... A dude....I think? He was.... Uhhhhh.... Passionate about his company... And.....uhhhh...I think he was a dude, but maybe he wasn't. Usually that problem only happens with his best buddy Redflyer. Anyways......Amen!"



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[SWAdude]

What flavor Kool-Aid are you guzzling? You can't get enough. You are actually choking! It looks like you are choking on your own vomit! Yikes!

Somebody help SWAdude! He's choking! Oh wait, he surrounded be AT guys.... Never mind..... So, who's got his eulogy? I do, here it goes:

"SWAdude....was....uhhhh.... A dude....I think? He was.... Uhhhhh.... Passionate about his company... And.....uhhhh...I think he was a dude, but maybe he wasn't. Usually that problem only happens with his best buddy Redflyer. Anyways......Amen!"



Bye Bye---General Lee

That was just weird.

 

[General Lee]

You saying I have the cockiest post ever?!?!?!?

Do you read your own crap?

Uhhhhhhh, it's debating the merits of how the AT guys were treated. Why do you think that is crap? It's time to treat them better.


Bye Bye---General Lee