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[PCL_128]

Need to take bets

I say you will stay.

I've tried to get wavey to take me up on it, and he's too scared. I'd love the easy money!

 

[waveflyer]

Last bid the junior Capt bid (NYC MD88) was about 9450 out of 12,000 total. Retirements haven't really even started yet. When they do, and there are 5000+ coming, it will probably go to 5-6 years on property. Kinda like what you USED to do. There are bids every 5-6 weeks, only half of the 717s have shown up, the 757s being parked will be replaced directly by 737-900ERs, and 10 A330s and 45 A321s will also be coming in the next few years. So, huge retirements plus lots of incoming planes.



Bye Bye---General Lee

None of which answered the question

 

[waveflyer]

I've tried to get wavey to take me up on it, and he's too scared. I'd love the easy money!

I actually do not care -
So... I don't look up the post that said you'd be gone by last April- you'll do what's best for you as you should.
I held into my SWA job through a lot of good hard working times- you know what I think from a business stand point- but I bet you have those bases covered in another way when you do quit.

As for your version of GLs public service announcement- I'll now repost my constant thought on this: upgrade thinking is regional thinking.
If I'm struggling on $160k, I'm sure I'll be struggling on $230k-
To me, if upgrade is your #1 priority- then yes, other places will be a better fit. If you aren't into SWA and it's culture, and it's just a job, there is no reason to consider us over the other options.

I would rather be a SWA FO for 20 years and retire with laugh lines than be a capt at delta united American- so I got lucky and it worked out. If you don't feel this way- apply elsewhere and see where you land.
The last decade worth of risk is mostly mitigated now with retirements save united- that place has systemic upper level leadership issues.

All that said, we have 50 new international cities opening up and the culmination of 5 new initiatives where by all accounts we will be growing at a pretty good clip- 3% will be easy
I expect my upgrade will be just over 10 since I got to sit here for the stagnation, but I wouldn't be surprised if those hired in the last few years see 8 year upgrades again IF we don't buy a young carrier that does what we do.
What I absolutely know is that no one has a 10 year crystal ball. And certainly not PCL who really has never been right about career moves.

 

[redflyer65]

My thoughts exactly Wave. This place may not be for everyone, but it allows for financial stability and schedule flexibility that works for me. Both of those things have allowed me to branch out as well and start my own business. So far so good and things are better than I expected. Cheers.

 

[General Lee]

My thoughts exactly Wave. This place may not be for everyone, but it allows for financial stability and schedule flexibility that works for me. Both of those things have allowed me to branch out as well and start my own business. So far so good and things are better than I expected. Cheers.

So, you and Scoot opened a "Chippendale" franchise targeting senior citizens in OAK? I hear your new buddy Scoot asks for Quarter tips, but to be inserted in his "slot." That's Nasty. Good luck to you two fruitcakes.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

So, you and Scoot opened a "Chippendale" franchise targeting senior citizens in OAK? I hear your new buddy Scoot asks for Quarter tips, but to be inserted in his "slot." That's Nasty. Good luck to you two fruitcakes.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Do you ever wonder why people don't take you seriously anymore?

I give you Exhibit A.

 

[Scoot 11]

Do you ever wonder why people don't take you seriously anymore?

I give you Exhibit A.

If you guys would just stop anthropomorphizing this azzwipe, he might just go away.
He has already posted himself into insignificance with nearly 20,000 posts that offer nothing but high school level debate! And even that's pushing it.
He is not and has never been a pilot for Delta! Maybe his uncle is. He isn't. It's been proven time and time again.

 

[General Lee]

If you guys would just stop anthropomorphizing this azzwipe, he might just go away.
He has already posted himself into insignificance with nearly 20,000 posts that offer nothing but high school level debate! And even that's pushing it.
He is not and has never been a pilot for Delta! Maybe his uncle is. He isn't. It's been proven time and time again.

This from a chubby Chippendale who asks grannies for quarter tips in his rear end! How can anyone believe this skid mark? Nobody can! And Red is his choreographer......they play the song "I'm too sexy" to each other before they ride the pole....(the stripper pole you sickos!)



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Do you ever wonder why people don't take you seriously anymore?

I give you Exhibit A.

Let me guess, you commute home on an allnighter from BWI Westbound to your home in El Paso on a medical Learjet that sometimes pushes back at 0310am on every other Thursday night? Yeah, and you're a loser.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[On Belay]

Well i've been at SWA 6 years and I think Wave and Red are smoking crack. It's still a good company and a good job... but it ain't what it used to be. It will take a miracle for a NH to upgrade in under 20 years now. Delta, United, American are all better options if the left seat is the goal. I can say that the right seat at SWA is still better than the left seat at many other places. Time will tell, but the Koolaid at SWA is starting to taste a little sour.

 

[Scoot 11]

Let me guess,

You need a brain for that d-bag!

you commute home on an allnighter from BWI Westbound to your home in El Paso on a medical Learjet that sometimes pushes back at 0310am on every other Thursday night? Yeah, and you're a loser.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Stop whacking off on your dads computer, and quit pretending to be a pilot. There's nothing wrong with being a Skywest dispatcher!

 

[PCL_128]

Well i've been at SWA 6 years and I think Wave and Red are smoking crack. It's still a good company and a good job... but it ain't what it used to be. It will take a miracle for a NH to upgrade in under 20 years now. Delta, United, American are all better options if the left seat is the goal. I can say that the right seat at SWA is still better than the left seat at many other places. Time will tell, but the Koolaid at SWA is starting to taste a little sour.

Nice to see someone being honest.

 

[redflyer65]

Let me guess, you commute home on an allnighter from BWI Westbound to your home in El Paso on a medical Learjet that sometimes pushes back at 0310am on every other Thursday night? Yeah, and you're a loser.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I guess if I did that, then I might be. But I don't and it doesn't change the fact that your a poser that adds nothing but insults here.

 

[redflyer65]

Nice to see someone being honest.

Did either one of you actually read Wave's post?

I agree about the upgrade. It would be nice, but it's not necessary for me to make it the bain of my exsistance. Hence, making great money in the right seat and the flexiblity to do other things.....like business opportunities outside of this industry.

Combine returns on a successful business venture with a 200k FO salary and I'm doing better than most Captains. If you have the kind of ego that you HAVE to sit in the left seat, then your mileage may vary. It's not that big of deal to me. Especially as I get closer to premium time in the summer...etc.

To each his own.

 

[hammer2]

Does a FO at SWA really make $200k a year, or is this an exaggeration? Looking at airline central it doesn't add up, but then again ac doesn't show all the extras.

 

[Saluki Dawg]

I've been at WN longer than Red and I don't make 200K. Can it be done? Yes, but you would have to score a lot of Premium and fly a ton to do it.

 

[jonjuan]

I've been at WN longer than Red and I don't make 200K. Can it be done? Yes, but you would have to score a lot of Premium and fly a ton to do it.

Maybe his "successful business venture" is getting payed to post BS on FI.

 

[General Lee]

Well i've been at SWA 6 years and I think Wave and Red are smoking crack. It's still a good company and a good job... but it ain't what it used to be. It will take a miracle for a NH to upgrade in under 20 years now. Delta, United, American are all better options if the left seat is the goal. I can say that the right seat at SWA is still better than the left seat at many other places. Time will tell, but the Koolaid at SWA is starting to taste a little sour.

Ohhhhh snap! Thanks for your reply. Red? Wave? Response please.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[humveedriver]

Does a FO at SWA really make $200k a year, or is this an exaggeration? Looking at airline central it doesn't add up, but then again ac doesn't show all the extras.

Very doable. But flying becomes your life (as does checking open time 3 times a day including 1am) and your life is something you try to fit around your obsession for more trips. The good news is you could still average about 11 days off. 200k at 8 year FO is 133 trips per month (125.30 Hr/trip). The premium trips (1.5x) are mostly available during weekends, holidays and any significant event you planned on your days off. You can work four 3 day trips and pick up a couple of day trips and hover around 105 TFP with about 16 days off. I still work for uncle sam two days a month so that's about all I can handle.

 

[waveflyer]

Well i've been at SWA 6 years and I think Wave and Red are smoking crack. It's still a good company and a good job... but it ain't what it used to be. It will take a miracle for a NH to upgrade in under 20 years now. Delta, United, American are all better options if the left seat is the goal. I can say that the right seat at SWA is still better than the left seat at many other places. Time will tell, but the Koolaid at SWA is starting to taste a little sour.

You mean to tell me there's a RSW pilot who's feeling a little less luv'd since air tran??
Tell me it isn't so.
And guess what FI crowd who's convinced SWA pilots all luv the SLI- he's got a lot of valid sentiments

Doesn't make his 20 year opinion more valid
AND me being optimistic doesn't make mine either-
Time will tell
I'm more worried about where I can enjoy the right now -
Find that place for you and don't sacrifice now anticipating or chasing carrots