Southwest off the runway at MDW

[mdf]

Someone who uses digler sized member as their status is probably trying to hide the opposite, especially after using "pin dik weasels" to go after others. Look dude, you probably work for SWA and I'm sorry this accident happened, period. Sucks, could have been much worse and again most of the "innapropriate" comments were made during the time period when it seemed like the extent of the human damage was minimal. So if I pissed you off or offended you besides the first sentence of this post, sorry. SWA has the most outgoing fun easy going crews I've ever met, so please don't lose your coolness by getting all outraged now and bitter from stuff you read on flightinfo.

Shake the tree, and look what falls out. I am fun and easy going, but I will stand up when necessary. Tell you what, let the moderators give me your personal info, and I will retract my statements.

 

[regionaltard]

Flight Info: The wadded panty Capital of the World........

 

[Fly2Scuba]

Shake the tree, and look what falls out. I am fun and easy going, but I will stand up when necessary. Tell you what, let the moderators give me your personal info, and I will retract my statements.

Are you looking to threaten me and my family? I already apologized for my inadvertant small joke about the situation and on behalf of some of the other poorly timed comments made by others. Now, you are presenting yourself as a mentally unstable individual trying to take it to another level and that's way of line. You are hiding behind a handle as much as anyone else so don't be a jerk about it. That's not cool.

 

[race#53]

Are you looking to threaten me and my family? I already apologized for my inadvertant small joke about the situation and on behalf of some of the other poorly timed comments made by others. Now, you are presenting yourself as a mentally unstable individual trying to take it to another level and that's way of line. You are hiding behind a handle as much as anyone else so don't be a jerk about it. That's not cool.

i think you have mdf's meaning wrong and i also think everyone on the list
who poked fun at SWA would now retract their posts.
As a pilot who has made a few decisions that i would like to have back and
someone who was involved in a co-workers death on the job, i would ask
all to put yourselves in the other guy's shoes...think before you post.
(see the moderator's post UAL78) for one of the best in this thread.

 

[RP 04]

It's ok for letterman/leno to crack jokes about 9-11/tsunamis and other events, but it's not ok for us to joke about SWA's accident (which was all posted before we found out a 6 year old child died)? Give me friggin break!!!

 

[ivauir]

It's ok for letterman/leno to crack jokes about 9-11/tsunamis and other events, but it's not ok for us to joke about SWA's accident (which was all posted before we found out a 6 year old child died)? Give me friggin break!!!

Lettermman and Leno are funny you are not.

 

[race#53]

It's ok for letterman/leno to crack jokes about 9-11/tsunamis and other events, but it's not ok for us to joke about SWA's accident (which was all posted before we found out a 6 year old child died)? Give me friggin break!!!

Here is the difference RP 04,
Letterman and Leno get paid to make jokes, you get paid to fly planes,
try telling a joke about a 6 year old getting killed on a plane while your
standing at the cockpit door....."professional" pilot mean anything to you?

 

[Remington]

So, no kid dies, this accident is funny? For you "jokesters" out there, TRY to get an interview at SWA and make a joke out of this, come back on flightinfo and let us know how funny they think it is.
Car accidents, airplane accidents, and people getting hurt, now that is hilarious!! Now that's the holiday spirit - taking pleasure in another person's misfortunes. I'll make sure to watch Leno tonight and see what SWA jokes he has penned. My guess is none.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

So, no kid dies, this accident is funny? For you "jokesters" out there, TRY to get an interview at SWA and make a joke out of this, come back on flightinfo and let us know how funny they think it is.
Car accidents, airplane accidents, and people getting hurt, now that is hilarious!! Now that's the holiday spirit - taking pleasure in another person's misfortunes. I'll make sure to watch Leno tonight and see what SWA jokes he has penned. My guess is none.

You missed the point RP 04 made. The jokes were made prior to learning of the fatality (didn't look serious initially), so don't get to worked up. If no fatality, then yes Leno would have made some jokes, especially since the other famous overrun was in Burbank. Now its tragic, so apologies are in order. God bless the kid and hope the family finds strength in faith. Now, chill out and fly safe.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

The next time anyone lands on a contaminated runway and you feel it is not what they are calling it, report it as NILL. Enough of this crap.

 

[Dennis Miller]

Atty: Too Early To Say If Southwest Air Will Be Sued -CNN

Unbelievable. The poor child just died and we get the leeches.


Atty: Too Early To Say If Southwest Air Will Be Sued -CNN

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- The attorney for the family of a six-year-old boy killed in an accident involving a Southwest Airlines plane said Friday it was " too early" to discuss whether the airline would be sued.

Ronald Stearney told Cable News Network that Southwest has been in touch with the family of Joshua Woods of Leroy, Ind. and "extended its condolences and concern."

 

[mdf]

Are you looking to threaten me and my family? I already apologized for my inadvertant small joke about the situation and on behalf of some of the other poorly timed comments made by others. Now, you are presenting yourself as a mentally unstable individual trying to take it to another level and that's way of line. You are hiding behind a handle as much as anyone else so don't be a jerk about it. That's not cool.

I am not threatening anyone. I am pointing out that some of you are saying things on this forum, that you would never say in person. The fact that you know that, and still do it makes you "weak" in my personal opinion. I would say that makes you "mentally unstable". All you are doing is confirming my initial comments. Nice try at the spin, though.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

ntsb just held a conf

wind 090/9

airspeed at touchdown 123 kts

brake condition at the end of runway nil

 

[Dumbluck]

Why is small children or pregnant women, or a father of 3?

Why not a van full of lawyers or a criminal whose freed on a technicallity?

 

[PacoPollo]

Unbelievable. The poor child just died and we get the leeches.


Atty: Too Early To Say If Southwest Air Will Be Sued -CNN

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- The attorney for the family of a six-year-old boy killed in an accident involving a Southwest Airlines plane said Friday it was " too early" to discuss whether the airline would be sued.

Ronald Stearney told Cable News Network that Southwest has been in touch with the family of Joshua Woods of Leroy, Ind. and "extended its condolences and concern."

There goes SW future fuel hedges.....$$$$

 

[Sarsipius]

ntsb just held a conf

wind 090/9

airspeed at touchdown 123 kts

brake condition at the end of runway nil

Actually what she said in the news conference was that the first part of the runway was reported as fair and the end portion was reported as poor. never was nil mentioned.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

I am not threatening anyone. I am pointing out that some of you are saying things on this forum, that you would never say in person. The fact that you know that, and still do it makes you "weak" in my personal opinion. I would say that makes you "mentally unstable". All you are doing is confirming my initial comments. Nice try at the spin, though.

You still can't accept an apology and seem vindictive and yes "mentally unstable" being that's the case. Because of the fact that some people get so bent of shape in todays society is part of the reason for an anoymous message board. Over sensitivity in real life leads to irrational responses up to including lawsuits, death threats, etc. So learn to accept an apology and realize that some of us consider a message board a place to freely exchange without all the formal proper pleasantries most of us use in real life. Also, you can't go around hiding behind a flightinfo name calling people names, calling them "weak" while bashing them about not divulging their true identities. That's hypocritical.

 

[Bandit60]

Are you saying you make up your own limitation and performance numbers instead of using the approved performance information? Or, as I suspect, are you saying you like to wag a couple of extra feet in your numbers to give yourself a larger margin of safety?

Not being sure about how the landing distance is calculated contributed to chain of events that lead to the FedEx MD-11 accident in EWR. As I recall, they thought the landing distance was calculated from the glideslope intercept and not the end of the runway - thus leading them to believe they had less performance than they had.

Regardless, you have to know what your own numbers are predicated on - runway length or glideslope.

Now...back to the SWA discussion....

All I was saying is that the runway before the glide slope is not usable runway, so you have to look at you performance based on the runway available not runway behind you.

My point is, I have seen people just look at the runway distance and not take into consideration the displaced thresholds or the glideslope usable runway.

So explain to me how the guys in the MD-11 got into trouble by thinking they didnt have the numbers. Did they use a more suitable runway or what? I dont really remember what the accident was about?

 

[canyonblue737]

All I was saying is that the runway before the glide slope is not usable runway, so you have to look at you performance based on the runway available not runway behind you.

My point is, I have seen people just look at the runway distance and not take into consideration the displaced thresholds or the glideslope usable runway.

So explain to me how the guys in the MD-11 got into trouble by thinking they didnt have the numbers. Did they use a more suitable runway or what? I dont really remember what the accident was about?

let me end this entire discussion by saying that SWA uses an FAA approved and sophiscated onboard portable computer system which uses custom data for every runway in its entire system, combined with current weather, runway condition data, specific airplane model and tail number, aircraft weight, runway USEABLE LENGTH (made even shorter automatically in poor weather as a conservative factor), runway slope, obstacles, glideslope angle etc. to show specific landing margins and clearly state if you can safely land. this system is used for every single landing of SWA 3000+ daily flights and can be updated and checked on a moment to moment basis if necessary.

now that data is only good if sources coming from ATC and other planes is accurate.

 

[Sarsipius]

let me end this entire discussion by saying that SWA uses an FAA approved and sophiscated onboard portable computer system which uses custom data for every runway in its entire system, combined with current weather, runway condition data, specific airplane model and tail number, aircraft weight, runway USEABLE LENGTH (made even shorter automatically in poor weather as a conservative factor), runway slope, obstacles, glideslope angle etc. to show specific landing margins and clearly state if you can safely land. this system is used for every single landing of SWA 3000+ daily flights and can be updated and checked on a moment to moment basis if necessary.

now that data is only good if sources coming from ATC and other planes is accurate.

You tell em ****!

How you been?

JD