SKYW to get more RJ's for Midwest

[CitationLover]

863% in the ATL? Citation, you and PBR should look at moving out that way.

there's a reason a lot of trannies live in ATL....

 

[Morning Wood]

no caffeine, special underwear, secret mormon only ceremonies, wearing "the shield", etc. these people are nuts! make no mistake any religion is nuts. we're all pilots here and science believers (i hope). i guess you see people rising from the dead, speaking in tongues, and putting spirits into pigs so they run into the ocean every day. skywest is no different than the jesus freak running republic airways corp or our stupid theocratic president and his grand "strategery".

and of course this is TH fault, but make no mistake Skywest is the enabler here. Jerry screwed ACA and Air Willey, now he's enabling MEH to screw Skyway. we know your pilots drool over replacing our 717's and MD80's, while Jerry whispers he can do it cheaper into TH ears.

There are over 3000 pilots and over 11000 employees at SkyWest. Not all of them are LDS. Are you really this stupid? Jerry did not put ACA and Air Wisc out of business. Kerry Skeen and Geoff Crowley did by thinking UA was going to back down from their demands for lower rates. Plain and simple. Do you honestly think that pilot pay is the only consideration when these contracts are hammered out?

 

[SkyNation]

Morning Wood,

don't try to reason with idiots. They'll only get louder.

 

[CitationLover]

Do you honestly think that pilot pay is the only consideration when these contracts are hammered out?

yes. if you believe otherwise, please explain mesa airlines.

you've all changed my mind. skywest is pure.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

TJerry did not put ACA and Air Wisc out of business. Kerry Skeen and Geoff Crowley did by thinking UA was going to back down from their demands for lower rates.

AWAC is out of business? I remember when our flying was put out to the lowest bidder. I remember other carriers going after it like crack fiends trying to get a hit. I remember the formation of Go Jets. What was left over went to Mesa and Skywest. I remember getting displaced and having to commute to Crappydelphia instead of driving to ORD along with our other 918 pilots at the time. I remember reading recently that ORD and MKE are Junior bases for Skywest ie. Nobody wants to even be there. I also remember quitting. I don't remember them shutting their doors, just everyones lives dramatically altered in a very bad way.

 

[outtahere]

Agreed, there are always bad apples in any group. I will restate myself....On bahalf of most Skywest pilots....I doubt there are many pilots who are happy to take anothers job, despite what some might say on this board. Fly Safe
Wilde737

Oh see there is where you are wrong. It would be an absolute pleasure to put every Skywest pilot out to pasture. Little bit of reap what you sow.

 

[Morning Wood]

yes. if you believe otherwise, please explain mesa airlines.

you've all changed my mind. skywest is pure.

So the pay for the other departments and other costs have no bearing on how contracts are bid? It's based 100 percent on pilot pay? That's rich (pardon the pun). Why didn't Mesa win the Midwest RFP if pilot pay is all that is considered?

 

[SkyNation]

SkyWest has never won an RFP based purely upon pilot pay. We have won, and will continue to win RFPs based on aircraft lease rates, maintenance costs, a strong balance sheet, etc. It all factors in.

 

[Morning Wood]

AWAC is out of business? I remember when our flying was put out to the lowest bidder. I remember other carriers going after it like crack fiends trying to get a hit. I remember the formation of Go Jets. What was left over went to Mesa and Skywest. I remember getting displaced and having to commute to Crappydelphia instead of driving to ORD along with our other 918 pilots at the time. I remember reading recently that ORD and MKE are Junior bases for Skywest ie. Nobody wants to even be there. I also remember quitting. I don't remember them shutting their doors, just everyones lives dramatically altered in a very bad way.

Sorry I mis spoke. I meant to say was they lost their UAX flying. What you fail to realize is that many other salaried employees had their pay cut or frozen. This wasn't solely a pilot pay issue, contrary to what you guys would like to think. ORD and MKE are also two of the newest domiciles. Very few 20-plus year captains transfered to a different domicile. That being said, SkyWest has opened and closed several domiciles over the years. The loss of the CO flying in IAH forced many to move as well.

 

[btrthn5n5]

Really? How many PMs have you sent to these guys asking to help them out? How many phone call have you made to friends at Skyway or to your company asking to give these guys preferential hiring? How many calls have you made to HR? I even have my wife scrounging stuff up at her company...

What are you doing to help?

Gleeful??? What a first class a$$ you are.

Don't fret over it MarineGrunt. This guy is a complete moron. Look through his 3000+ posts for proof. Just let him spew his ingnorant posts and take them for the funny read that they are.

 

[budd]

Skyway Pilot VS Skywest pilot..... My family is riding Skyways. No Brainer!!!! But it is all about the dollar>>

 

[JoeMerchant]

yes. if you believe otherwise, please explain mesa airlines.

you've all changed my mind. skywest is pure.

Please explain Mesa airlines..... aren't they ALPA??....... I'm not sure I would use Mesa as evidence of why Skywest should become ALPA....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Oh see there is where you are wrong. It would be an absolute pleasure to put every Skywest pilot out to pasture. Little bit of reap what you sow.

Even the ones who voted FOR ALPA????..... It is ALPA Koolaid Cheerleaders like you that will guarantee that no other regional ever joins ALPA.........

ALPA has helped to cause this "bidding war" and you blame your fellow Skywest pilots, including those who actually voted for ALPA......

You sir are an idiot and a disgrace......

 

[relief tube]

all arguements aside, please guys, you have been in the middle of a lot "takeovers." Much more so than even RAH.

Some offered consolation could be to vote down this pathetic pay raise. It'd at least give a short repose from the current impression of you all as a bunch of kool-aid drinking, anti-union, disenfranchised, spikey-hiared/backpack/sunglass/ipod wearing fellas.

 

[John Pennekamp]

How exactly did voting no on ALPA cause this to happen? Do you think that with pay and everything else frozen until a contract was ratified years down the road had any bearing on this?

Pennekamp...

Midwest had an option on 10 more aircraft at their discretion on top of the original 15 in the contract. This is Midwest exercising their option on the other 10 aircraft and I fully believe that SkyWest was not intentionally there to put Skyway out of business. This seems like an MEH decision to me. But you go ahead and look it through whatever glasses fit.

SkyWest has never won an RFP based purely upon pilot pay. We have won, and will continue to win RFPs based on aircraft lease rates, maintenance costs, a strong balance sheet, etc. It all factors in.

You caused it to happen, not because of your pay rate, but because of the flexibility being non-union offers management. With you all being non-union (and voting to stay that way), when Midwest demands cheaper in two years, SkyWest can do it cheaper. No messy negotiations in the way. And you will all gladly take the pay cut because they'll throw you a few more airplanes and keep the fast upgrades coming. This is your reward for voting down ALPA

Face it. SkyWest Airlines is no better than Go Jets or SkyBus. Pilots with no self esteem.