Rip nji

[FLYLOW22]

Of course, management told Okatie six months ago that the "5 year plan" had Okatie remaining open..and we know how that turned out. Buyer beware.

You got to see the 5 year plan??:laugh:

 

[Jack Campbell]

In 5 years from now, we can all look back and know what the 5 year plan was!

 

[Jack Mehoff]

And hopefully in 5 years Sokol will be a distant memory.

 

[Pervis]

Perv, we get CBA plus overrides OR NJI pay (whichever is higher). Not NJI pay PLUS overrides. They will keep track of the after midnight, before 8 am, yada, yada. But cba plus overrides won't exceed my cap for at least four years. Hence, pay cut.QUOTE]

No point in arguing based upon opinion. According to both management and NJASAP, you will not see a pay cut.

Per LOA 01-013-"Crewmembers employed by NJI will not suffer a reduction in pay as a result of the recognition of NJA and NJI as a single transportation system."

Unlike the empty promises you guys were told over the years, this is part of the contract. If you indeed lose money, the union will follow the grievance process. There is no room for creative interpretation in this situation. Nor does it mean you'll make the same only if you work more. This simple sentence guarantees you status quo.

You'll be suprised how well the contract maintains our QOL. Have faith.

 

[OPECJet]

I haven't dug very deep, but from the surface it looks like the only difference an NJI pilots would see is paying union dues and having representation. If this is too much to handle, 495 of us will gladly return to work. Don't forget, in that 495, some are NJI natives.

 

[Dassault]

I've done the math. This little Brady Bunch moment will cost me about 80 grand. I was willing to let it go until turds like Raj start demanding I pay BACK dues.

Why don't you come back here and post your income for the 12 months prior to integration, then the 12 months after integration. The numbers you throw out are ridiculous.

 

[Dassault]

The pilot group prior to 2005 wanted to make sure that NJI was not taking work from NJA pilots with the Gulfsteam side. That does not mean that we wanted to merge and become 1 pilot group. I have never flown with a single pilot that wanted to merge the 2 pilot groups or seniority lists or even cared anything about it.

Who have you been flying with? The vast majority (let alone your ridiculous "not one") of pilots I have flown with have always wanted us to be one company on one certificate. Been here 15 years, I am thinking you might be less.

 

[netjetwife]

As you guys have noticed, Raj does have some ridiculous notions.

Along with dues the membership gets to vote in elections. That renders the concept of back dues rather impossible...:erm: What would NJASAP give the NJI pilots in exchange...

We can't go back so it's time to move forward as one team. The only fair, feasible answer is to integrate both pilotgroups with the least disruption possible and an eye toward eventual equality. Focusing on common ground will better serve everyone involved and I do believe the majority of the pilots in both groups agree with that concept.

 

[rajflyboy]

As you guys have noticed, Raj does have some ridiculous notions.

Along with dues the membership gets to vote in elections. That renders the concept of back dues rather impossible...:erm: What would NJASAP give the NJI pilots in exchange...

We can't go back so it's time to move forward as one team. The only fair, feasible answer is to integrate both pilotgroups with the least disruption possible and an eye toward eventual equality. Focusing on common ground will better serve everyone involved and I do believe the majority of the pilots in both groups agree with that concept.

Laughable

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Christ. Would you give it up already? First time I've had to add a name to my ignore list here. I can even handle B19. At least he is good entertainment. You are just flat out annoying and obnoxious. And yes, I am one of the furloughed guys.

+1

Dude, please tell me how to use the ignore list. I need my first entry as well.

 

[rajflyboy]

As you guys have noticed, Raj does have some ridiculous notions.

Along with dues the membership gets to vote in elections. That renders the concept of back dues rather impossible...:erm: What would NJASAP give the NJI pilots in exchange...

We can't go back so it's time to move forward as one team. The only fair, feasible answer is to integrate both pilotgroups with the least disruption possible and an eye toward eventual equality. Focusing on common ground will better serve everyone involved and I do believe the majority of the pilots in both groups agree with that concept.

Its this Elitist attitude that most are really getting mad about. I think we have been on this rodeo at least once before.

 

[Helmsalee]

Ignore list.
At the top of the page, click on User CP (control panel).
In the list on the left, click on Edit Ignore List.
Put the name in the box and save.
Easy.
I only have 2, but it looks like that may have to change.

 

[netjetwife]

Rajflyboy, I disagree about an "elitist" attitude among the hardworking cadre of volunteers and leaders in NJASAP. But one can spot some of that attitude in your chosen name...raj also Raj (räj) n. Dominion or rule, :erm:

Helm, selective reading makes good use of one's time.

Speaking of time....the NJA pilots are nearing the deadline for voting in the EBoard election. Today and tomorrow are the last full days with limited morning time on the 16th when the vote ends. I highly encourage those eligible to participate. Choosing your leadership is the ideal time for members of the "silent majority" to speak up loudly.

 

[CRJFlyer]

Are you really a wife or just posing as one? I'm honestly astonished at the fact that you feel the need to put forth so much effort to push "your husbands" thoughts and ideas...If in fact you are who you say you are.....I'm starting to have my doubts.

Do you sit by the "Batphone" and listen to your husbands super secret conversations? Is the phone red like Obama's? Is this what the two of you discuss all day? Do you have children. Is your husband one of "those pilots" who whole life revolves around his job? Do you two have any other hobbies? Have you ever been to Kansas?

No, seriously I'm literally astonished by your interest....Well not really, just kinda sick of your crap over and over. We get it. Your husband is in the union (I have no idea who he is). Everything he says you repeat here. The both of you are in love with NJA/NJASAP/the job etc...

Most of us, however, have spit out the Koolaid for fear of choking. And most of us are up one day, down the next about how we feel about current leadership at NJASAP. (Thank you NJASAP MSG Board access guys) (gee didn't most of us warn that there would be a ******************** storm over the msg. board access decision)

Wait, your BB/IPhone probably just told you "you have a new thread response".. Better get to FI.com right away..hurry hurry...

 

[jppt2000]

Are you really a wife or just posing as one? I'm honestly astonished at the fact that you feel the need to put forth so much effort to push "your husbands" thoughts and ideas...If in fact you are who you say you are.....I'm starting to have my doubts.

Do you sit by the "Batphone" and listen to your husbands super secret conversations? Is the phone red like Obama's? Is this what the two of you discuss all day? Do you have children. Is your husband one of "those pilots" who whole life revolves around his job? Do you two have any other hobbies? Have you ever been to Kansas?

No, seriously I'm literally astonished by your interest....Well not really, just kinda sick of your crap over and over. We get it. Your husband is in the union (I have no idea who he is). Everything he says you repeat here. The both of you are in love with NJA/NJASAP/the job etc...

Most of us, however, have spit out the Koolaid for fear of choking. And most of us are up one day, down the next about how we feel about current leadership at NJASAP. (Thank you NJASAP MSG Board access guys) (gee didn't most of us warn that there would be a ******************** storm over the msg. board access decision)

Wait, your BB/IPhone probably just told you "you have a new thread response".. Better get to FI.com right away..hurry hurry...

You forgot your usual hollow threat or crude post, wierdo.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

495 of us will gladly return to work. Don't forget, in that 495, some are NJI natives.

And what fleet will those natives return too?

 

[Jack Campbell]

And what fleet will those natives return too?

What fleet will their VSL seniority allow them to return to?

 

[NachoMamma]

And what fleet will those natives return too?

Who cares

 

[ozpilot]

And what fleet will those natives return too?

Good question Wolf. I don't know. Good to see you back on the boards.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Ignore list.
At the top of the page, click on User CP (control panel).
In the list on the left, click on Edit Ignore List.
Put the name in the box and save.
Easy.
I only have 2, but it looks like that may have to change.

Thanks.