Rip nji

[FLYLOW22]

somethinggreat to come back to? Are you serious??? netjet is losing marketshare daily.

Source?

 

[jppt2000]

Source?

www.Netjetshaters.com

 

[Semore Butts]

And to try to piss off the NJA Koolaid folks as much as possible

Koolaid drinkers?

Most of them got furloughed.

 

[CRJFlyer]

Koolaid drinkers?

Most of them got furloughed.

Not the ones that post on here everytime something negative is brought up at NJA. It turns into a debate on how the negative posters are either haters, disgruntled, pissed off, or blowin off steam.....

NJA is just like every other large corporation.. Management will lie/ bend the truth/ twist answers to their liking...all the while thinking that the average employee will believe them.. (case in point JC at every recurrent class.) Employee group is like any other.. You've got your good guys, guys that just want to get through the week...But then you've also got the guys who think they know all that goes on here, guys that think their flying the shuttle etc..Same as at every airline.

Is NJA a good gig..sure, still better than the regionals, not as cushy as alot of 91/135 outfits. And no where near the schedule of a major. Pay is descent, hotels are usually pretty good. Benefits are about the best thing going at NJA. Time away from home is pretty rough for the money. And generally the food is better than average. (although cut down to 2 meals, luckily there's the Hilton breakfast)

Not mine or alot of guys first furlough/bankruptcy etc.....I understand the dynamics of the economy. But the year or more spent wondering and stressing about the status of the job. Nights the wife fell asleep crying over our potential lack of money situation and what we were going to do. I will be forever tarnished by this experience, and "if" I do come back I will definitely be one of those guys who won't do anything extra. And the only reason I would come back is for the 401k potential and being able to move to any part of the country I like.

 

[jppt2000]

Not the ones that post on here everytime something negative is brought up at NJA. It turns into a debate on how the negative posters are either haters, disgruntled, pissed off, or blowin off steam.....

I disagree.
Please show me where you have posted one single unique, "insider" Netjets piece of information.
An ex-FO with "insider" info.
I have challenged the veracity of your posts, along with some of the other crusaders, only to get caught up in your/their internet tough guy routine.
I won't keep making the same mistake.
Actually, IMO, your posts are either embarrassing, malevolent and/or phony.

 

[rajflyboy]

I disagree.
Please show me where you have posted one single unique, "insider" Netjets piece of information.
An ex-FO with "insider" info.
I have challenged the veracity of your posts, along with some of the other crusaders, only to get caught up in your/their internet tough guy routine.
I won't keep making the same mistake.
Actually, IMO, your posts are either embarrassing, malevolent and/or phony.

Due to your very own insecurity you challenge anyone that doesn't agree with you!!

 

[jppt2000]

Due to your very own insecurity you challenge anyone that doesn't agree with you!!

Not at all, I don't agree with folks like yourself conjuring up falsehoods to support their own selfish agenda.
Use verifiable facts to support your claims, that's all.
Your post is embarrassing.

 

[rajflyboy]

Not at all, I don't agree with folks like yourself conjuring up falsehoods to support their own selfish agenda.
Use verifiable facts to support your claims, that's all.
Your post is embarrassing.

My posts are true and reflect the true values of the pilot group. If you choose to ingore this then you are not a smart man. If you think NJA pilots are just sitting back and loving the way things are going with the NJA NJI merge then you are the one living in a fantasy land.

Remember this: 41 percent of the group including myself didn't even waste our time voting on this go around.

Now just go back to the insecurity that exists in your brain.

 

[rajflyboy]

somethinggreat to come back to? Are you serious??? netjet is losing marketshare daily.

This is not factual according to the information sent down to us through the pipeline. Whether it is true or not we will not know for some time.

You must trust me in saying that many of us want to maintain NJA as a strong company with a good contract and we hope that you and the other pilots will be called back sooner than later.

 

[rajflyboy]

Not at all, I don't agree with folks like yourself conjuring up falsehoods to support their own selfish agenda.
Use verifiable facts to support your claims, that's all.
Your post is embarrassing.

I'm still waiting for you to produce these FACTS you keep talking about?

Show them to me? Prove I'm wrong?

 

[jppt2000]

My posts are true and reflect the true values of the pilot group. If you choose to ingore this then you are not a smart man. If you think NJA pilots are just sitting back and loving the way things are going with the NJA NJI merge then you are the one living in a fantasy land.

Remember this: 41 percent of the group including myself didn't even waste our time voting on this go around.

Now just go back to the insecurity that exists in your brain.

How do you know this to be true as fact?
Yourself excluded, of course.
More embarrassing posts.

 

[FLYLOW22]

www.Netjetshaters.com

Seems like a really professional site. Up there with Illinois Nazis and the IRS.

Btw... all the site says is: "Please come back later."

You boys might want to beta test your website next time before you launch.

 

[jppt2000]

Seems like a really professional site. Up there with Illinois Nazis and the IRS.

Btw... all the site says is: "Please come back later."

You boys might want to beta test your website next time before you launch.

Maybe RAJ and CRJ can use that site to compile their unbiased data to substantiate their claims.

 

[jppt2000]

This is not factual according to the information sent down to us through the pipeline. Whether it is true or not we will not know for some time.

You must trust me in saying that many of us want to maintain NJA as a strong company with a good contract and we hope that you and the other pilots will be called back sooner than later.

Wow, pot meet kettle.

 

[jppt2000]

I'm still waiting for you to produce these FACTS you keep talking about?

Show them to me? Prove I'm wrong?

You're right, I cannot prove you speak for 41 percent of the pilots.
I will happily point you to the elected folks who speak for me and the union though.
You and CRJ are embarrassing yourselves.

 

[Semore Butts]

41 percent of the group including myself didn't even waste our time voting on this go

You didn't vote?

Then I guess you really don't have any room to complain about things.

Thats sad man.

 

[gret]

How do you know this to be true as fact?
Yourself excluded, of course.
More embarrassing posts.

Have you ever looked in a mirrror and said..I'm a puss?

You refusre to state facts, all you can say is "NetJets hater" or something to that affect.

I'm sorry for making this type of statement, but you desrve this.

"Have you ever change your own underwear?"

You only attack..you never state a position.

Get a set and grow up you sorry excuse of a human being.

 

[CRJFlyer]

I disagree.
Please show me where you have posted one single unique, "insider" Netjets piece of information.Are you retarded??? What are you talking about "insider info"?? Here's a clue..When I refer to Koolaid drinking I'm referring directly to you. Your one of the prime people who refute any negative posts. All you have to do is read this thread.
An ex-FO with "insider" info. Again, put the helmet on and find a rubber room quick. As far as ex-FO, sorry I had better opportunities other than NJA back in the early 2000's. I wasn't coming here for the crappy wages. We used to laugh at NJA guys when we knew what the pay was vs. the schedule. Yes, I ride the bandwagons, I'm not going to be the poster child for low wages hoping things get better
I have challenged the veracity of your posts, along with some of the other crusaders, only to get caught up in your/their internet tough guy routine.
I won't keep making the same mistake.Then why are you making it again? And did you ever think you may take a internet msg. board too seriously?? Think about it..
Actually, IMO, your posts are either embarrassing, malevolent and/or phony.

Not sure what you mean by phony, NJA screwed us, not for lack of effort, but the leaders dropped the ball.. And yes even I could see that home prices simply cannot see %30+ yearly gains for eternity...Like I said, I've been furloughed before, do I wish NJASAP didn't cut us off at 1159 on the 15th..Of course..It was a direct kick in the nuts.. Hell we had Crewops access for atleast a few extra days. So yes, we feel like we got rubbed the wrong way a bit. Live with it, we're ticked off still and there's nothing yourself or any others can do about it. We'll come back (maybe) still a bit ticked, won't work quite as hard, and won't go the extra mile. Tough luck if that doesn't jive with your plans.

As far as embarassed, I'm not.. As there are guys like you who think nothing is wrong, there are plenty of guys like me who feel the ship is neither being righted nor sinking. We're just looking at it from an outsiders view, and see some issues with the current direction. Sorry it doesn't jive with your insider, "I'm senior so I know all mentality ".


Dude you are completely confused.... I have never claimed to have any insider info about anything.....I stated that some of you more senior guys are completely one sided when it comes to NJA. (there is no insider info, it's simply an observation from posts here. Everytime someone posts something negative about NJA/Union, you and some others simply refute it like it's fact.

And for some reason you "think" I somehow want to run for election so I can change some LOA??? I could care less about changing anything, all I asked was everyone on property quit bitching about "not being able to bump a NJI guy off his seat or out of his Captain position. It comes across as being a whiney bitch. Things could be worse than not getting to fly the G Unit.

Either you have me confused with someone else here, or you have a one track mind and only read what you want, and see things one way.

 

[CRJFlyer]

Maybe RAJ and CRJ can use that site to compile their unbiased data to substantiate their claims.

What data are you referring too? What claims... I claimed you sounded like a whiney bitch about the LOA integration and how some junior G guys get to keep their seat.

And me and about 400 others complain about how the direction of the company is up in the air....For example... I've been given a 2013 recall date.......BUT.....fleet plan doesn't add up... If that's trying to have insider info then I guess we're guilty.... You explain how a fleet plan at the 5 year mark has us estimated to have 20-40 less a/c ( the exact number escapes me at the moment) in 2014, but even the junior furloughees have a recall expectation date before that...If you can explain all the company/union rhetoric and keep it civil without telling us we're too junior to understand, then have at it. Give us your insider info..


I've never attacked anyone (except Walmer).... I try to hear their side of the story or their thoughts... Until someone like you thinks they're always right... Case in point.. I flew with Pervis once, nice enough guy..But the first thing he does is start talking politics, and how anyone who votes for Obama is a retard.. I hadn't made up my mind yet, but it still rubbed me the wrong way.. Because even if I had voted for Obama, how the hell does he know if I have a mental disability or not.. No offense Pervis, but the trip was hell listening to your political views for 6 days, I couldn't find a TV far enough away.... It's one of the 3 well known rules..No politics, religion, or touching of the thighs

You've still got me confused as hell about where your getting this insider info complaint towards me.. I'm so far away from CMH I might as well be in Iraq..... I've got a great gig now, and today just saw my first QS tail. It was a buttomed up Falcon on another ramp.. So where do you see me as having insider info. Hell I only know a few active NJA pilots and haven't talked to them in months.

 

[CRJFlyer]

JPPT2000 can't accept the fact that NJA isn't the darling of aviation anymore..It was a good 3 year run, but it's over..NJA is just like every other company again. with the same issues as every one else.

We can see it. He can't.