Rip nji

[RP170]

What the heck can I do man? You obviously are looking for something from us.

We are simply looking for more communication just as all 495 of us have from the start. The open ended and ambiguous statements in the 411's get old after awhile.

 

[Pervis]

We are simply looking for more communication just as all 495 of us have from the start. The open ended and ambiguous statements in the 411's get old after awhile.

You are getting as much info as those of us still active. Specifics that are available are posted on NJPILOTS.ORG by a few active pilots. Anything more specific is simply not available, even to the union.

 

[CRJFlyer]

You and 170 keep running around with your elephant underwear on.I've heard alot of metaphors but this one takes the cake. If I only knew what you were talking about. I can't help but think you need a vent,man your bright. After all this time you've figured out what FI is for!! a shoulderNo shoulder needed thanks.... I dunno. Nobody on this web board can help you so what would you like us to do? Shut up and butt out of my venting/bitching session. Did you really think I expect you to help the situation somehow? Your a pilot, not an employment specialist. And no, you don't know everything or have all the answers. (As much as most pilots think they do).

We are in control of nothing when it comes to your employment. I fly my trips, I do my part, I go home. Really. I thought you made hiring decisions at NJA. I must have been mistaken.

What the heck can I do man? See above.You obviously are looking for something from us.Nope, I don't recall ever asking for your help. This is FI for the love of god. It is meant for 1 of 2 things. Venting/bitching, and once in a great while some actually usefull information. [/QUOTE]

Like I said if you don't like reading about myself bitching about the wonderful NJA, then put me on your ignore list or something. Won't hurt my feelings, trust me.

 

[CRJFlyer]

You are getting as much info as those of us still active. Specifics that are available are posted on NJPILOTS.ORG by a few active pilots. Anything more specific is simply not available, even to the union.

I realize every one is in the dark. Hence the reason why we're disgruntled. Flylow seems to take it personally. Like we expect something from him. Either his ego is that big, or he's in love with NJA that much.

and thank the decision for booting us off the main board for that. If we had access we could see for ourselves that there is nothing being leaked. Unfortunatley that decision has been made, and we are left to do nothing but speculate. It was forewarned that FI would become an avenue to air dirty laundry or just b.itch about NJA in general.

And now people here complain that we complain too much. Tough.

 

[Pervis]

CRJ, the site I mentioned is for all Netjets pilots-retired, furloughed, and active. Just register like you did with the message board and you're in. FWIW, many of us are against the decision to cut you guys off the main site, and also want access for the NJI pilots now, but when less than 50% of the active pilots vote, you can't expect the change in command necessary to take OUR union back. Remember that when you return.

 

[FLYLOW22]

We are simply looking for more communication just as all 495 of us have from the start. The open ended and ambiguous statements in the 411's get old after awhile.

Why don't you call Mark Luthi and discuss this with him?

What can I do?

 

[FLYLOW22]

You and 170 keep running around with your elephant underwear on.I've heard alot of metaphors but this one takes the cake. If I only knew what you were talking about. I can't help but think you need a vent,man your bright. After all this time you've figured out what FI is for!! a shoulderNo shoulder needed thanks.... I dunno. Nobody on this web board can help you so what would you like us to do? Shut up and butt out of my venting/bitching session. Did you really think I expect you to help the situation somehow? Your a pilot, not an employment specialist. And no, you don't know everything or have all the answers. (As much as most pilots think they do).

We are in control of nothing when it comes to your employment. I fly my trips, I do my part, I go home. Really. I thought you made hiring decisions at NJA. I must have been mistaken.

What the heck can I do man? See above.You obviously are looking for something from us.Nope, I don't recall ever asking for your help. This is FI for the love of god. It is meant for 1 of 2 things. Venting/bitching, and once in a great while some actually usefull information. [/QUOTE]

Like I said if you don't like reading about myself bitching about the wonderful NJA, then put me on your ignore list or something. Won't hurt my feelings, trust me.

Now that you've had another successful and productive session, what else can I do to help you?

In the absence of 482 pilots, the heat is slowly building to work us all harder. The pressure is building and will eventually give way to recalls... when responsible staffing decisions are made.

It's not easy to be on the outside and soon enough it will not be easy to be on the line working 14 hour, 5 leg shifts for 7 days in a row. Please know that it's just not a bowl of cherries from either position.

Speaking of perspective... Here's to hoping that someday you experience a good change of the one you have now. It happens with time, and usually it's a good thing.

Take care.

 

[gret]

"You and 170 keep running around with your elephant underwear on.I've heard alot of metaphors but this one takes the cake. If I only knew what you were talking about."

Yeah...what the heck does this mean? I hang around a lot of saloons, but I never heard this one before.

 

[CRJFlyer]

Now that you've had another successful and productive session, what else can I do to help you?

In the absence of 482 pilots, the heat is slowly building to work us all harder. The pressure is building and will eventually give way to recalls... when responsible staffing decisions are made.

It's not easy to be on the outside and soon enough it will not be easy to be on the line working 14 hour, 5 leg shifts for 7 days in a row. Please know that it's just not a bowl of cherries from either position.Hope you didn't just try to compare our situation with you being overworked. That's just plain retarded....

Speaking of perspective... Here's to hoping that someday you experience a good change of the one you have now.It's already happened, but I'm still gonna b.itch about NJA. It happens with time, and usually it's a good thing. Thanks I feel much better with your words of wisdom. What would I have done all these years without realizing that? (If you care, I'm on my 5th job in 10 years, through no fault of my own.) I've figured out how to make it without NJA. ..BBBBUUUUTTTTT I'm still gonna b.itch about it!

Take care.

If you'd take the time to actually read and not see what you want to see, you'd come to realize nobody is asking for your help with anything. I don't recall asking for your help. I've managed without NJA, and this is not my first paper route when it comes to aviation jobs, furloughs, bankruptcies or being in a union.

BTW,they can only TRY to make you do 14hr,5leg,7day trips...Whether you do them or not is up to you.

OK this is where Flylow says.."what would you like me to do about it?" Because he doesn't read/comprehend anything I've just written.

 

[FLYLOW22]

"You and 170 keep running around with your elephant underwear on.I've heard alot of metaphors but this one takes the cake. If I only knew what you were talking about."

Yeah...what the heck does this mean? I hang around a lot of saloons, but I never heard this one before.

You don't have Elephant Underwear moments?