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[John Pennekamp]

Now that's the half-truth. The process of creating ethanol burns more fossil fuels than the energy yield of the ethanol. You're paying the oil tycoon anyway. Ethanol as a "source of energy" is a complete sham, consuming billions of dollars of taxpayer money and wasting even more oil than if we'd burned it directly in our cars. In the process, we're driving up food costs even further.

Want a solution to the energy problem? Electric or plug-in hybrid cars, and a lot more nuclear reactors. And yes, I'd gladly have one in my backyard.

Bingo! That's 100% true. Ethanol is a complete sham cooked up by the Bush administration to divert attention from the oil industry in the global warming debate. The fossil fuel use in producing ethanol is hidden, so everyone thinks ethanol is "green".

 

[gmccrj7]

I'm a regional FO, NOT on the RJ, and put up with a lot of sh...err, stuff. Just got a TA that seems to be 'adequate'. I don't like some parts of my career, but for what I want to do, i.e., fly big airplanes built by Boeing or Airbus, I think I'm in the right place.

Will a fractional job help me toward that goal?

here is a little wisdom from experience, do not chase aircraft (e.g. boeing/airbus) when thinking about your career. let the aircraft come to you.....

 

[hopalong]

All the guys from regionals in my new hire class were 6-8 year captains. Funny how this thread is singling out the FO's.

....and now back to ECON 101

I've been with NJA for a little over a year and some of the guys in my new hire class were from the majors. They said they jumped ship because their
upgrade time was way tooo long and no stability.
Plus crappy medical.

 

[PCL_128]

Ethanol is a complete sham cooked up by the Bush administration to divert attention from the oil industry in the global warming debate.

I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but we can't pin the Ethanol sham on him. Ethanol subsidies go back to long before the Bush administration. The Republicans have been pandering to the corn farmers for many years with corn subsidies for Ethanol. Bush carried on the pandering legacy, but his administration certainly didn't cook up the idea.

 

[n8avi8]

Milk costs $5/gal? Where the F do you live?

Thats the going price in Vegas.

 

[atrdriver]

Atlanta. And milk costs ~$4.79 here now.

You need to visit Wal-mart man. A few weeks ago it was 2.99/gal. Heck, it's only 4.75/gal on Guam.

 

[landlover]

you guys at netjets can get a PB&J sandwich? thats is farking rad! where do i sign. before anyone jumps the gun. i am completely serious. i love me some pb&j and you can never get it on the road. 7 days on the road, i'll do that on my elbows. 12 days is where i start to forget where teh light switches are in my home .

 

[CA1900]

you guys at netjets can get a PB&J sandwich? thats is farking rad! where do i sign. before anyone jumps the gun. i am completely serious. i love me some pb&j and you can never get it on the road.

Our pilots fall into two main camps: those who love their PB&J, and those who make fun of them for "wasting" a slot on the crew menu with them. Considering how popular it was in the food polls, I'd say it wasn't a waste. :laugh:

I'd rather have a nice piece of fish, myself, but there are lots of options, particularly with the regional options that have been added.

 

[captain dad]

Our pilots fall into two main camps: those who love their PB&J, and those who make fun of them for "wasting" a slot on the crew menu with them. Considering how popular it was in the food polls, I'd say it wasn't a waste. :laugh:

I'd rather have a nice piece of fish, myself, but there are lots of options, particularly with the regional options that have been added.

I like me some peanut butter and Jelly! I Reckon.

Switchgrass! 2 crops a year, yields more ethonol than sugarcane per acre. Can't use it in planes but the military is trying blends in a c-130 wing.

80% of electricity in the US is from burning coal.

Look it up!

 

[CA1900]

80% of electricity in the US is from burning coal.

Look it up!

Yep. Kind of embarrassing that the French have been smart enough to use nuclear (pronounced NOO-klee-er, Mr. President) for over 80% of their electricity. I see the US is finally looking at approving a new nuclear power plant; thank goodness! Let's hope we see more of that soon.

 

[PCL_128]

I see the US is finally looking at approving a new nuclear power plant

And it's only been, what, three decades since the last one? It's time that we start building these things left and right. There's no reason for us to be burning coal, oil, and natural gas to provide electricity when we have nuclear power at our disposal.

 

[Soverytired]

Unreal....I thought we had it bad here at $2.50 - $2.99 a gallon.

Interesting to say the least...

Two words: Ethanol subsidies.

It's artificially raising the cost of corn (which feeds cows) through the roof. We could just buy the stuff direct from central/south America. It's much cheaper . . or would be, if Congress didn't slap a .51 cents PER GALLON on imported ethanol to protect giant American Agri-business . . er, I mean the "family farmer".

 

[Soverytired]

And it's only been, what, three decades since the last one? It's time that we start building these things left and right. There's no reason for us to be burning coal, oil, and natural gas to provide electricity when we have nuclear power at our disposal.

Holy Crap! That's the first post PCL has put up that I agree with 100%! Too bad we had to thread-jack a Net Jets hiring forum to get there!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Is Vegamite on the NJ food list?

cliff
ABQ

 

[CA1900]

Is Vegamite on the NJ food list?

uke:

Not until we start up NetJets Australia, I don't think.

 

[JimNtexas]

Hilliary has been living in Iowa all year, she want to significantly raise ethanol subsities. She needs to buy those votes.

 

[temcgrew]

NO AIRLINE is as stable as Netjets.

I think that is a bold statement to make. Buisness is Buisness and if I remember right, the fractionals took a beating and all struggled to make money after 9/11 as well. This when private air travel should have been booming because of the security issues. The only difference between NJ and an Airline is that it's Buffet's money not Government money bailing them out.

The fact is that there are more poor people in the world than rich so I think the airlines are very stable.

I think ONE of the weaknesses with the fractionals is PR stuff when global warming legislation comes about. One person on a G5 spewing fuel from JFK to LAX instead of sitting on a 76 will be the type of thing that will be all over the news. Don't get me wrong, it won't destroy the industry, but NOBODY is immune, not even Mr. Buffet. If his industry is hurt, he will hold on loosing money all the way until he is the last frac standing then he will sell, in theory at least.

 

[bailey3083]

I think that is a bold statement to make. Buisness is Buisness and if I remember right, the fractionals took a beating and all struggled to make money after 9/11 as well. This when private air travel should have been booming because of the security issues. The only difference between NJ and an Airline is that it's Buffet's money not Government money bailing them out.

The fact is that there are more poor people in the world than rich so I think the airlines are very stable.

I think ONE of the weaknesses with the fractionals is PR stuff when global warming legislation comes about. One person on a G5 spewing fuel from JFK to LAX instead of sitting on a 76 will be the type of thing that will be all over the news. Don't get me wrong, it won't destroy the industry, but NOBODY is immune, not even Mr. Buffet. If his industry is hurt, he will hold on loosing money all the way until he is the last frac standing then he will sell, in theory at least.

Actually after 9/11 the fracs really did not hurt that bad and the very few people laid off were back in 6 months. In reality the Fracs are the safest place because these people have enough money that if the economy hits the skids then they will keep flying while the airlines cut service and put people on the street.

Bailey

 

[lukeandjenn]

You need to visit Wal-mart man. A few weeks ago it was 2.99/gal. Heck, it's only 4.75/gal on Guam.

As a poor regional FO living in ATL, one who can't afford to shop at Publix. I can attest milk was 4.49 a gallon for the cheap Wal-mart brand milk at my local Supercenter. Ditto to 65k not going far.

 

[CA1900]

... and if I remember right, the fractionals took a beating and all struggled to make money after 9/11 as well.

NetJets was doing just fine. Remember, these weren't people who stopped buying tickets. These were people who owned these airplanes (portions of them), and were bound by their management contracts.

The only difference between NJ and an Airline is that it's Buffet's money not Government money bailing them out.

That's incorrect on many levels. A little research on the way Warren Buffett operates his businesses would be helpful here. He doesn't have one business cover the losses of the other -- he runs them as independent businesses, which have to survive on their own.

The fact is that there are more poor people in the world than rich so I think the airlines are very stable.

I think ONE of the weaknesses with the fractionals is PR stuff when global warming legislation comes about. One person on a G5 spewing fuel from JFK to LAX instead of sitting on a 76 will be the type of thing that will be all over the news.

We're all over that:
http://www.netjets.com/About_NetJets/NetJets_Climate_Initiative.asp