Regional FOs: Check out NetJets

[temcgrew]

We're all over that:
http://www.netjets.com/About_NetJets/NetJets_Climate_Initiative.asp

Oh boy, buying Carbon Offsets, yeah that will work.

 

[CaptainChris77]

This is the NJA current contract. http://www.ibt1108.org/public_new-contract.html
Be prepared to work under these rules, and this pay... if it makes you uncomfortable--stay put. If hired today, it is PBI, CMH, TEB, etc. until this TA is voted in. Granted it will most likely pass, it is a crapshoot right now.

I am a regional FO, sent my paper application in two weeks ago...and I'm waiting for a call. It is long tedious process to get hired at NJA...not like the regionals where you send your stuff and get a call within 2 days. I've been working on this NJA stuff now for about six weeks.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

The good thing about applying now, is that you'll know, before your interview, if the TA passed or not.

cliff
ABQ

 

[Buddro]

Oh boy, buying Carbon Offsets, yeah that will work.

Why so negative?

The offsets are obviously a PR thing.

Did you get turned down by Netjets...No need to hold back man, let it go.

Sorry you got turned down, you know they do allow you to re-apply after 6 months.

There isn't a airline in the US that is as secure (in all ways) as Netjets is. If you think there is, please elaborate, I would like to hear your argument.

I'm not saying Netjets is the perfect or best job for everyone. I need stability for my family, it sure provides that over ANY airline!!!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Carbon credit offsets are NOT a PR thing.

A PR thing is saying you're a "Green Car" company and you produce the lowest mileage cars in the world.

Carbon credits are where you pay someone to offset the carbon you are using (aircraft, car, factory, home). The offsets could be something as simple as planting X number of trees per year that would soak up the same amount of carbon as you are emitting in that year.

cliff
ABQ

PS-If U own a farm, or land in a good area, you can put windmills on your property. You can get the money for the electricity generated from the local utitlity company AND the carbon offset money from selling your credits. You are also probably elligible for some kind of tax rebates, unless Congress decides to cancel the wind energy rebate money so the oil companies can have more.

 

[temcgrew]

Why so negative?

The offsets are obviously a PR thing.

Did you get turned down by Netjets...No need to hold back man, let it go.

Sorry you got turned down, you know they do allow you to re-apply after 6 months.

There isn't a airline in the US that is as secure (in all ways) as Netjets is. If you think there is, please elaborate, I would like to hear your argument.

I'm not saying Netjets is the perfect or best job for everyone. I need stability for my family, it sure provides that over ANY airline!!!

So because I think carbon offsets are a load of crap, that means that I have been turned down by NetJets? I don't follow your reasoning.

I've never applied there, and that argument is the most wore out one on FI. I was pointing out that saying NetJets is more stable than ANY airline is a big load of crap.

Someone chimed in and said that Warren Buffet doesn't help out NJ when they have had losses, but the flip side of the argument is that it will never go out of buisness because of the deep pockets of Mr. Buffet. Which one is it?

Look, everyone wants security and it is nice to think the company you work for will be around for a while. We have to have some sort of security with seniority lists and such. I don't think NJ is immune from financial hardships.

 

[Buddro]

Hi!

Carbon credit offsets are NOT a PR thing.

A PR thing is saying you're a "Green Car" company and you produce the lowest mileage cars in the world.

Carbon credits are where you pay someone to offset the carbon you are using (aircraft, car, factory, home). The offsets could be something as simple as planting X number of trees per year that would soak up the same amount of carbon as you are emitting in that year.

cliff
ABQ

PS-If U own a farm, or land in a good area, you can put windmills on your property. You can get the money for the electricity generated from the local utitlity company AND the carbon offset money from selling your credits. You are also probably elligible for some kind of tax rebates, unless Congress decides to cancel the wind energy rebate money so the oil companies can have more.

Cliff,

I'm out of the loop on the carbon offset thing. Thanks for the lesson.

 

[Buddro]

So because I think carbon offsets are a load of crap, that means that I have been turned down by NetJets? I don't follow your reasoning.

I've never applied there, and that argument is the most wore out one on FI. I was pointing out that saying NetJets is more stable than ANY airline is a big load of crap.

Someone chimed in and said that Warren Buffet doesn't help out NJ when they have had losses, but the flip side of the argument is that it will never go out of buisness because of the deep pockets of Mr. Buffet. Which one is it?

Look, everyone wants security and it is nice to think the company you work for will be around for a while. We have to have some sort of security with seniority lists and such. I don't think NJ is immune from financial hardships.

No it's just the negativity implied within your post for no apparent reason that makes me raise my eyebrows. Never mind that....

So again, what airline/aviation department is more secure than Netjets? OK which airline/department is AS secure as Netjets...? (I'm interested to hear your response)

Just ask any US Airways pilot how that thinking they were safe because of how high on the seniority list they were worked out for them...Your reasoning is WAY off base....Just because your SENIOR doesn't mean your safe....I can think of numerous examples to fight off your reasoning. Midway, National, TWA, Eastern, CCAir....

Do you get my point?

 

[Soverytired]

This may be the most F'd up thread hijack I've seen in a while.

It's a dang sight more interesting than another Skywest ALPA yes/no thread. Or Mesa wood, or Captain vs. FO, etc.

 

[Allen1]

As a poor regional FO living in ATL, one who can't afford to shop at Publix. I can attest milk was 4.49 a gallon for the cheap Wal-mart brand milk at my local Supercenter. Ditto to 65k not going far.

You're right it doesn't go that far, but it goes a he?? of alot farther than than your crappy regional pay. If some regional actaully achieved this pay scale for their FO's we would never hear the end of it. Instead NetJets FO's might get this and all you can say is, it doesn't go that far instead of saying hey good job guys. You airline guys really need to get over your selves.

 

[Allen1]

All right been there done both. Warren Buffett will not just let you collect your pay check. He will work you worth $120000 and pay you $60000. You can be the FA and FO and the B!tch for the new money who like their pickles sliced and not whole. You will have their dogs take a dump on the plane while they threaten to fire you if you don't clean it. If you wanna go to a major stay at a 121 regional as compared to fractional. I'd rather stay at a good regional any day! Just my opinion. Plus the RJ in corporate world is like a.............. Big plane! Mach .85 ain't that slow.

Yeah, your right because the trips regionals do are like vacations. What do you guys do, one leg a day on a four day. Get a life the regionals our sweatshops and work you just as hard so don't try to use that argument. Fracs aren't even close to what you describe, at least at netjets. If something like that happens we would get off the airplane with our bags and some cleaning service would have to clean it. Most likely the owner would get a bill from the company and a talk from owner services.

 

[737 Pylt]

Yeah, your right because the trips regionals do are like vacations.

I'm pretty sure ASA and the likes are now flying to Mexico and the carribean.

What do you guys do, one leg a day on a four day. Get a life the regionals our sweatshops and work you just as hard so don't try to use that argument.

I'm sorry, I don't speak retardese, can you please explain just what the hell you're trying to say!

Fracs aren't even close to what you describe, at least at netjets. If something like that happens we would get off the airplane with our bags and some cleaning service would have to clean it. Most likely the owner would get a bill from the company and a talk from owner services.

OOOOOOOh, owner services, that'll scare them!:laugh:
Hey dumbass, unless you haven't figured it out yet, the passengers are the owners!
Now get back to scrubbing the lav, make sure there are plenty of diet cokes, and for goodness sakes, that USA Today better not be yesterday's or your ass is grass!

737

 

[Allen1]

I'm pretty sure ASA and the likes are now flying to Mexico and the carribean.


I'm sorry, I don't speak retardese, can you please explain just what the hell you're trying to say!



OOOOOOOh, owner services, that'll scare them!:laugh:
Hey dumbass, unless you haven't figured it out yet, the passengers are the owners!
Now get back to scrubbing the lav, make sure there are plenty of diet cokes, and for goodness sakes, that USA Today better not be yesterday's or your ass is grass!

737

Go get back to driving your bus and make sure you get me to where I'm going on time you piece of sh!$. Oh and while your at it maybe you guys could try and keep your lavs from flowing all over the passengers.

 

[captain dad]

highooo!

 

[popgoesbubble]

Man where do I start first with 737penis or BigHomo man both you guys are a bunch of tools looking at all these post its funny all the guys bashing on netjets are ASA guys hey news flash that new TA you guys just got our FO pay beats your New captain pay Yeah thats something to be proud of! Isn't ASA in Last place Always as the Worst airline with the Worst crews. How's those Fa's doing they still in jail? boy you guys sure can pick quality people.

I use to feel bad for all the ASA guys after CUmair stiffed you on your contract by taking pay cuts to get 70 seaters and then you guys being bought out by Skywest. But now man I'm glad you guys are slowly rotting away as SkyWest replaces your flying. I thought I'd never say this but even though they are a Non Union airline hands down they do a better job in every corner.

737Penis looks like you work for Continental? based in Lovely EWR it's funny all I hear from friends of mine that work there are how crappy the lines are. 90 hour block months with 11-12 days off. Yeah that sounds fun. Living in a crash pad commuting I may only get 14 days off a month but hey I don't Commute, I don't live in a stinky Crash pad, I don't need a Airport car, and I'm Positive spaced to work and back home. Oh and did I say I don't have to Commute!


Oh yeah this last 7 day tour spent the whole tour on home show not bad sure beats seating airport Reserve for 15 hours or sitting in your crash pad in lovely EWR

 

[PCL_128]

737 works for Delta, you d0uche.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

How hard do you work?

I have had several pilots say that USA Jet was the hardest job they ever had:
pager
short call-out
loading/unloading freight
on-demand all over N. America
etc.

I heard (indirectly) that my buddy at CAL says that THAT job is the hardest he's ever had. I think he's 737
LOTS of legs per day
not much time to turn
etc.

He used to be at USA Jet, and he said CAL is MUCH harder.

So, how to compare regional/NetJets/CAL (also sounds like NWA)/my job at USA Jet/NWA???

cliff
ABQ

PS-I'm currently in ABQ for 9 days. Flying once. Then airlined home (like at a frac). Then 10 days off.

 

[landlover]

i swear. some of these guys cant see the forrest, for the trees are in the way.

 

[popgoesbubble]

737 works for Delta, you d0uche.

OH in that case 737pylt How's that A FUND Doing Scum Bag!!

 

[Allen1]

Hey 737 pylt I'll see you here at NetJets when your retire just like all the other retired airline guys. I'll make sure your the Bit!?. Gets some practice jerking that gear cause that's all you're going to do.