PSA offered 900's

[nethan]

Declining the 900's is not protecting anyone at PSA. If the 900's don't come on board, then PSA is probably finished. Aside from the pilot group, word at the other PSA facilities (OCC specifically) is that we are growing to 68 airplanes with the option for 20 more. There has been no mention of getting rid of the 200's. If Parker is truly going to get rid of Mesa, CHQ, and TSA, PSA cannot afford to lose the 200's due to all of the additional routes that we will acquire. Dont count on PSA losing the 200's.

Wait... in the first sentence you say if PSA doesn't take the 900s then they are done. Then in the next sentence (well, several sentences) you say that West Managment is trying to get rid of the contract carriers and PSA won't lose the 200s. Which is it? If we aren't going to lose the 200s how are we done?

 

[CRJDog]

Hell why settle for 900's lets get A380's and fly them for our pathetic CRJ-200 rates.

 

[CallmeJB]

...word at the other PSA facilities (OCC specifically) is that we are growing to 68 airplanes with the option for 20 more. There has been no mention of getting rid of the 200's. If Parker is truly going to get rid of Mesa, CHQ, and TSA, PSA cannot afford to lose the 200's due to all of the additional routes that we will acquire. Dont count on PSA losing the 200's.

I'll make you a deal: I won't count on PSA losing the 200s if you don't count on keeping them.

Honestly, is there any proof that these are growth aircraft?

JB

 

[whatfuelpolicy]

Wait... in the first sentence you say if PSA doesn't take the 900s then they are done. Then in the next sentence (well, several sentences) you say that West Managment is trying to get rid of the contract carriers and PSA won't lose the 200s. Which is it? If we aren't going to lose the 200s how are we done?

Done means, no more opportunity for growth, ever. PSA will stay the same as it is now. Maybe a couple of upgrades every now and then, same crappy schedules, CLT-AVL-CLT-FAY-CLT-GSO. Thats a fun day! Oh wait, maybe you would like to continue flying the 200 CLT-XNA when XNA requires an alternate and you have a full pax load and the closest approved alternate is 138 miles away. Maybe you're happy with the schedules.

Ever since HP management took over as "The New US Airways," the word on the street has been Mesa is on their way out. Since PSA and PDT are owned by Airways, why not keep it in the family. PSA potentially could get several western long-haul routes with the arrival of the 900's. I've said it before, long-haul routes could possibly mean another pilot base somewhere other than the east coast. The way I see it, upgrades galore and everybody moves up in seniority due to the addition of more FO's.

 

[nethan]

I was just giving you a hard time man... One of the few times I'm going to get away with it too. I bet I'll see some crazy stupid routings from you next time you have one of my flights!

As I already said, I think we need to get the airplanes, but not for nothing. Management is going to make more money on this deal (20 more paying pax). So should we.

 

[whatfuelpolicy]

I was just giving you a hard time man... One of the few times I'm going to get away with it too. I bet I'll see some crazy stupid routings from you next time you have one of my flights!

As I already said, I think we need to get the airplanes, but not for nothing. Management is going to make more money on this deal (20 more paying pax). So should we.

I figured as such, I was giving you a hard time as well. I agree about the pay for you guys, but without the new planes, there wont be any leverage for pay raises in the future.

 

[Sig]

PSA will stay the same as it is now. Maybe a couple of upgrades every now and then, same crappy schedules, CLT-AVL-CLT-FAY-CLT-GSO.

The fact that they still have stupid overlap on routes a jet should never see... and a Dash8 STILL flying them... I can't understand the mentality of forcing inefficiency to justify the fleet plan.

Retarded.

Maybe... just maybe... this new change will allow both PSA and PDT to do what they do best.

 

[whatfuelpolicy]

The fact that they still have stupid overlap on routes a jet should never see... and a Dash8 STILL flying them... I can't understand the mentality of forcing inefficiency to justify the fleet plan.

Retarded.

Maybe... just maybe... this new change will allow both PSA and PDT to do what they do best.

Holy crap! Haven't heard from you in a while! Where the hell have you been hiding man? Wah dah tah!

 

[Sig]

Wah dah frickin' tippy tah!

What's shakin in Dayton, holmes?

 

[whatfuelpolicy]

Wah dah frickin' tippy tah!

What's shakin in Dayton, holmes?

Not a damn thing! I'm gonna PM you my cell number. Give me a call.

 

[LoveGun]

Whatfuelpolicy,

You are asking me to make career decisions based on "word on the streets" and OCC rumors. That's insane. Anything can and will happen. We have to put together an agreement that has some proctections. PSA management takes advantage of even the smallest loophole, and if there is another merger (Northwest) don't be surprised if your friend Doug Parker throws you out of your CRJ seat in favor of a much stronger pilot group.

 

[Sig]

Hey, Love-

Salient points, all of 'em. Texan/ Butcha don't know who you'ze daintzing with. Whutfyoolpawluhsee been around enough to know whut's whut, and I gar un tee if yew are a captain, you've worked with eem. /Texan.

All points except one: Management will NEVER favor a stronger pilot group when contract carriers shop for work. That's a sad fact.

 

[whatfuelpolicy]

Whatfuelpolicy,

You are asking me to make career decisions based on "word on the streets" and OCC rumors. That's insane. Anything can and will happen. We have to put together an agreement that has some proctections. PSA management takes advantage of even the smallest loophole, and if there is another merger (Northwest) don't be surprised if your friend Doug Parker throws you out of your CRJ seat in favor of a much stronger pilot group.

I dont have to worry about being thrown out of anything, Lovegun. I am not DP's friend, and I know how PSA management operates.
PM me, we'll talk.

Thanks for the back-up, Sig! Sa dah tay!!

 

[Sig]

Dude! Stuff! Yeah! Texan eeyiz whut Texan duz.

And all that, too. C'mon down to the beach. I've had a couple of folks a lot like y'seff on the jumpseat, just plan on the -300 legs into SBY.

And for the rest of this peanut gallery, HE wants nothing less than the best for all of us.

 

[Victor Meldrew]

Jetfo, I have to admire your confidence, however you sound like you have "inside" sources and info. How certain are you that infact these will be growth aircraft - do you have a copy of the proposal?

Again I say it, Parker wants to cut back on the 50's, MESA is gone with the 50's, TSA have some and CHQ, like AWAC have binding contracts that mandate the use (in CHQ case 70's & 50's) for USAir in return for the money they pumped in.

PSA are a WO why not give the 90's to PSA and remove some of the excess 50 seaters? If I was Parker thats EXACTLY what I would do, kill two birds with one stone - less 50's more 90's - simple.