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[Ty Webb]

An open section is very different from a signed contract.

If we had gotten released by the NMB, it wouldn't have been very far at all. :laugh:

 

[FlyinGuy]

If...wouldn't

vs.

didn't...was

 

[ASADFW7]

Who cares

 

[GuppyWN]

Wish there was a Transtar/Muse person to chat with about it. Not saying anyone here doesn't think they're posting what really happened, but the people who were living the event first-hand often have a unique perspective, and I'd like to hear it...

I am not a Transtar/Muse person but know one. He has bounced around the industry and ended up an instructor at SW 25 years later. He told me the whole story and basically explained that if ALPA had taken the deal that was offered he would have retired very senior and millions richer as a SW pilot. He said if he could go back he would gladly accept what SW was willing to offer, but then, hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Ty Webb]

Who cares

Uh-huh.

 

[Lear70]

I am not a Transtar/Muse person but know one. He has bounced around the industry and ended up an instructor at SW 25 years later. He told me the whole story and basically explained that if ALPA had taken the deal that was offered he would have retired very senior and millions richer as a SW pilot. He said if he could go back he would gladly accept what SW was willing to offer, but then, hindsight is 20/20.

That's what I mean. Was it the pilots, the MEC, or ALPA National? It's an important detail that probably only their own pilots or MEC remember.

 

[slaquer5]

That's what I mean. Was it the pilots, the MEC, or ALPA National? It's an important detail that probably only their own pilots or MEC remember.

It was there. MEC

 

[Quiet Flight]

That's what I mean. Was it the pilots, the MEC, or ALPA National? It's an important detail that probably only their own pilots or MEC remember.

Lear, now that I think about it and after having read the last few posts, I believe it was the MEC. If so, my mistake. However, I would not be at all surprised if ALPA national was leaning on that MEC through the entire process. Up to and including them (Muse/TransStar) tubing the deal.

 

[Bob Dylan]

The only staple you're going to hear, Bobby Boy, is when ol' Ty staples your nuts to the pegboard wall in my workshop.

That's pretty violent and sickening rhetoric, even for a loser like you. It's a shame that guys like you hit the lottery in this business and don't deserve it or appreciate it.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Lear, now that I think about it and after having read the last few posts, I believe it was the MEC. If so, my mistake. However, I would not be at all surprised if ALPA national was leaning on that MEC through the entire process. Up to and including them (Muse/TransStar) tubing the deal.

Never let the facts get in the way of hating ALPA National.

 

[redflyer65]

The entire Transtar/Muse process is a case study in horrible BATNA. They went from 900 pilots to zero because they kept thinking they could get more and more.

In the end, they got nothing.

I hope Airtran ALPA has figured this out by now.

RF

 

[Lear70]

Like Ty said, this isn't SWA/Muse and this isn't the 80's. I have faith in our representative MC/NC's to find something fair since it's better to keep it out of an arbitrator's hands. That said, I'm not worried about a similar Transtar/Muse scenario here, even if it does go to arbitration, and neither are the other AAI pilots.

The reason I responded at all was that I wanted to point out that ALPA National isn't pushing anything here. Our 4 *LINE PILOTS* who comprise the Merger Committee and who will return to the line when it's complete have only one agenda: find something fair and equitable and bring it back to us. That's it, in a nutshell.

I figure if both sides are a little irritated but few (if anyone) is truly, militantly angry at the final result, it'll probably be fair.

 

[Bob Dylan]

I figure if both sides are a little irritated but few (if anyone) is truly, militantly angry at the final result, it'll probably be fair.

Fair would be a staple, just like you were asking for in this very thead just before the acquisition was announced. Funny how that has changed. Sad, actually.

 

[slaquer5]

The entire Transtar/Muse process is a case study in horrible BATNA. They went from 900 pilots to zero because they kept thinking they could get more and more.

In the end, they got nothing.

I hope Airtran ALPA has figured this out by now.

RF

When you say THEY, it was a select few that ran with the ball and ruined it for the the whole. SWA did hire a lot of Muse Air pilots after it was all said and done.

 

[redflyer65]

Thanks for the clarification. In many cases, a few can ruin it for many..