Pinnacle Air Services

[JJET44]

I kinda figured that things would get better through time. It seems that the four partners are a smart bunch and very successful and must realize that a happy employee is a productive employee.

 

[D-Jumbo]

401(K) is changing. Got a note from HR the other day. Still waiting to see the info. Vision goes up in July.

Finally a matching of the 401K, I knew I should have stayed ) Sounds like things are on the up and up!!

 

[75TH_RANGER]

The 401k will be matched $.50 on the dollar up to 3% of your salary.

 

[CFI4LIFE]

Heard the deal is dead!

 

[Rake]

I know with all the rumors floating around, everyone is waiting with anticipation for closure in this matter. Why not wait for official correspondence before commenting on something that may or may not be factual? Rumors lead to disconnect and failure in any organization. This negotiation is not going to finalize overnight. Hopefully, a positive outcome will come in the near future. Until then it’s probably best to keep hearsay to a minimum.

V/R,
Rake

~ And no, I'm not affiliated with management from either organization. Just a simple observation from past experiences.

 

[FR8FO]

what's going on there savage storm?

 

[macpilot]

but starting rumors are so much fun!

 

[starcheckdriver]

The Airnet website is all calling the deal dead. Heard Pinnacle wants nothing to do with the aircraft we have on contract with NetJets and SkyJet. Doesn't make sense to me if it were to be true, but then again, it is all hearsay to begin with.

 

[uscpilot]

I know with all the rumors floating around, everyone is waiting with anticipation for closure in this matter. Why not wait for official correspondence before commenting on something that may or may not be factual? Rumors lead to disconnect and failure in any organization. This negotiation is not going to finalize overnight. Hopefully, a positive outcome will come in the near future. Until then it’s probably best to keep hearsay to a minimum.

V/R,
Rake

~ And no, I'm not affiliated with management from either organization. Just a simple observation from past experiences.

By your rational this thread should never have started. Short of questions about benifits and pay the whole thing is nothing but heresay. Come to think of it half of the stuff posted on flightinfo is heresay (this very statement was speculation and heresay thus making my point ). Look pilots love to spread rumors as if they are fact and this big knitting circle we call a chat room satisfies this need.
Airnet has had bad luck recently with buyouts. Last November it was a done deal, then at the last minute it fell through. Yes it was different, a stock buy back in an attempt to privatize the company, but from our perspective the lead up to both events is strickingly similar and the end results difficult to ignore.
The negotiations have been going on for some time. Nobody thought that it would happen overnight. But this has been dragging on for some time now. Something happened *edit* with the managed aircraft, Pinnacle doesnt want them (oh know more heresay ).
WDR11

 

[Stealthh21]

The Airnet website is all calling the deal dead. Heard Pinnacle wants nothing to do with the aircraft we have on contract with NetJets and SkyJet. Doesn't make sense to me if it were to be true, but then again, it is all hearsay to begin with.

And that is funny, because Pinnacle has several aircraft that are exclusively used by Skyjet. I have heard that it is not a done deal. Lots of legal stuff to go though.

 

[slickmagneto]

And that is funny, because Pinnacle has several aircraft that are exclusively used by Skyjet. I have heard that it is not a done deal. Lots of legal stuff to go though.

Why not get the Jetride portion bought and operate as two separate companies until the legal problems get worked out? Git-r-done. I want to go boat shopping for my wife.

 

[Oliver Reed]

Whoopdy do, there's aviation lookin out for me again.

That certainly is a leap of faith to assume pay will be going up to match JR's, which is already inconsistent and anaemic. Whatever defense is given of the ownership and management of Pinnacle, pay is almost always an indication of the general attitude of employer to employee and the bottom line is you've got to be a real a%$hole to pay 35 and 70 and think your paying someone a liveable wage for their relavent station in life. Give me a break . If I worked at JR I'd have multiple resumes out.

Would I be going out on a limb to assume the trainining is anything more than mediocre Bombardier/Flight Safety insurance stamping, as it is at JetRide. Does Pinnacle have international training, CRM or standardization. How about 6 mo training events for crews? Let me guess?

 

[starcheckdriver]

Sorry, I made a mistake regarding the Skyjet and NetJets contract planes. It was mistated on the Airnet website. They were referring to our managed aircraft that we operate on our certificate. They were calling the deal dead because supposedly Pinnacle does not want anything to do with the managed airplanes on JetRide's certificate.

 

[Flybet3]

As far as i'm concerned aslong as that fat f**k DO is there, I wouldnt even consider the job!

 

[uscpilot]

That certainly is a leap of faith to assume pay will be going up to match JR's, which is already inconsistent and anaemic. Whatever defense is given of the ownership and management of Pinnacle, pay is almost always an indication of the general attitude of employer to employee and the bottom line is you've got to be a real a%$hole to pay 35 and 70 and think your paying someone a liveable wage for their relavent station in life. Give me a break . If I worked at JR I'd have multiple resumes out.

Would I be going out on a limb to assume the trainining is anything more than mediocre Bombardier/Flight Safety insurance stamping, as it is at JetRide. Does Pinnacle have international training, CRM or standardization. How about 6 mo training events for crews? Let me guess?

I am curious who your source is at JR (I am thinking it is first hand and you are trying to protect yourself by coming across as an outsider). The inconsistant pay problems of the past have been fixed, not sure about the anemic ones (or what it meant).
Now what is the average pay for a LR35 and LR60 Capt.'s and FO's? Make sure you are only comparing 135 companies, and not 91's. Once you have addressed pay then you should examine the quality of life. Look I am not defending managment. I think we are worth more than we are paid, however 70K is close to average for a 60 capt. A little low, but hardly the slave wages you make it out to be. What is a "relavant situation in life"? People are people a paid what they are worth not necessarly what they want/need. If an individual made some poor decisions early on, got themselves into debt, well it is not the employeer's fault, and defenatly not their responsibilty to bail them out. Did I take your statement the wrong way?
What are the alternatives to the "rubber stamp" training you were refering to? What do other 135 compaines do?
Look I realize that you want a higher level of training, and pay. But those things cost money. If you had your way and a company implimented your proposals there would be no way for them to compete.
Anyway, for what it is worth I do have resumes out.
WDR11