Pilots wearing backpacks??? lets get campy?

[Veemoh]

I left Corpex at the end of April this year.
I was there about 9 months.

Were you at Skyway before that?

 

[DX Rick]

I have a backpack when I am gone for more than a 4 day trip.. I think it shows the trend of the airline industry when pilots are having to be gone from home more and have less commutable schedules... Maybe the airlines could get better at making more attractive schedules! Then there would be less backpacks

You think as of recently pilots schedules are becoming longer and longer? You think the 4 day trips are a new thing? How long have you been in or around this business?

 

[Doo Doo Brown]

I never really thought about a backpack until I read this post. Now I'm going out today to get one for my nap line that starts tomorrow. Thanks for the great idea guys! And to whoever said they would stuff me in it if they saw me in THEIR terminal, let me know where you want to meet and we'll see who does the stuffing!

 

[bizicmo]

Does anyone have a problem with me only carrying a brown paper bag thru the terminal with my lunch in it or is that too campy or schoolly.

 

[eastflier]

I just got my balls pierced a week ago and no one at work has complained to me about it yet.

 

[dash8driver]

let me know where you want to meet and we'll see who does the stuffing!

sometimes you like to pitch and sometimes you like to catch?


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[macfly]

In reference to the male earing; it goes like this, left is right, right is wrong. If your sitting next to a cpt that when you look over you can see his ring, then well - dont drop the soap.

 

[Doo Doo Brown]

sometimes you like to pitch and sometimes you like to catch?


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Sorry to excite you dash8, didn't mean to get you all worked up, but I'm only a pitcher and I'll never pitch to you. If you have a picture of your sister, send me a photo and I'll see what charity work I can do.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

You think as of recently pilots schedules are becoming longer and longer? You think the 4 day trips are a new thing? How long have you been in or around this business?

4 day trips are a fairly new thing(last 25 years or so)........the trips used to be much LONGER!

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

I never really thought about a backpack until I read this post. Now I'm going out today to get one for my nap line that starts tomorrow. Thanks for the great idea guys! And to whoever said they would stuff me in it if they saw me in THEIR terminal, let me know where you want to meet and we'll see who does the stuffing!

Looking back at the posts, it is interesting to see the ones for and against.

The pilots that see no problem with back packs, not wearing the required uniform, ear and ....um....other rings etc, all have very low total times listed with a very limited number of aircraft flown and limited airline experience. A quick scan showed the total times mostly ranging in the 1000 to 2500 range.

10 years ago 1000 to 2500 would be enough to be flying a light twin freighter, or if very lucky a King air or similar.

Currently in the industry, we have very low time (relative to previous generations) pilots flying very large (again, relative to previous generations) jet aircraft. Yet they are flying those aircraft for probably the worst pay scales ever. Instead of trying to raise the bar, and keep the industry as a top tier professional career, most seem content with being a low grade hourly worker bees that have about as much professional pride as a Burger King employee.

In 1979 your average DC-9-30(RJ by todays standards) Captain made 85 bucks an hour and his F/O made 55 an hour. Your average RJ pilot today does not even match that scale dollar for dollar, nevermind correcting for 26 years of inflation.

Maybe the old boys that kept the standards high (personal and professional) may have been on to something here?

 

[Donsa320]

Looking back at the posts, it is interesting to see the ones for and against.

The pilots that see no problem with back packs, not wearing the required uniform, ear and ....um....other rings etc, all have very low total times listed with a very limited number of aircraft flown and limited airline experience. A quick scan showed the total times mostly ranging in the 1000 to 2500 range.

10 years ago 1000 to 2500 would be enough to be flying a light twin freighter, or if very lucky a King air or similar.

Currently in the industry, we have very low time (relative to previous generations) pilots flying very large (again, relative to previous generations) jet aircraft. Yet they are flying those aircraft for probably the worst pay scales ever. Instead of trying to raise the bar, and keep the industry as a top tier professional career, most seem content with being a low grade hourly worker bees that have about as much professional pride as a Burger King employee.

In 1979 your average DC-9-30(RJ by todays standards) Captain made 85 bucks an hour and his F/O made 55 an hour. Your average RJ pilot today does not even match that scale dollar for dollar, nevermind correcting for 26 years of inflation.

Maybe the old boys that kept the standards high (personal and professional) may have been on to something here?

AMEN!


~DC

 

[BenderGonzales]

Thank goodness someone finally said it!

The "Jets R' Neat" kids are the problem. There IS value to keeping minimum requirements for regionals a little bit higher.

"Oh, you only have 200 hours in a Seminole? That's ok! Thank you for the check! Welcome aboard! Here's your high-performance, transport category jet!"

We tend to appreciate that which we WORK to achieve.

 

[FN FAL]

Thank goodness someone finally said it!

The "Jets R' Neat" kids are the problem. There IS value to keeping minimum requirements for regionals a little bit higher.

"Oh, you only have 200 hours in a Seminole? That's ok! Thank you for the check! Welcome aboard! Here's your high-performance, transport category jet!"

We tend to appreciate that which we WORK to achieve.

You can't totally blame the kids for the decline in the industry. How many people have you ever seen walk out of a filthy fast food restaraunt when the person behind the counter leans the broom or mop handle against the wall and takes their order without washing their hands? Not too many.

For some reason, it appears that the public is willing to accept sloppyness. So if the customers don't care...why should the workers?

 

[k_EAT=ho_ME]

And I thought this thread was just about to fizzle out.

 

[Going2Golf]

Best I ever saw with the whole back pack thing was witnessed in the crew room between a chief pilot and young FO with a jansport over 1 shoulder..

Chief Pilot: So what is so important that you have to carry your backpack with you all the time..it doesn't look very professional you know.

Young FO: Oh, I don't know, a .40 Cal handgun and a spare magazine along with my IPOD.

Chief Pilot: (looking embarassed) Oh, I'm sorry I asked.


Needless to say the rest of the crew room was bursting with laughter.

 

[acaTerry]

The 40 cal can go in a smaller bag, something that can be carried by hand. As for the backpacks...it makes you look stupid as the guy with brown combat boots in his blue uniform.

 

[DC8 Flyer]

Just some observations really.

What about the guys with the flightcases that have more speed tape on them than 1950s cessna?

What about the guys whose belly is soooo big, even extra long ties cant go around/over it?

Just some random thoughts...

 

[FN FAL]

Just some observations really.

What about the guys with the flightcases that have more speed tape on them than 1950s cessna?

What about the guys whose belly is soooo big, even extra long ties cant go around/over it?

Just some random thoughts...

I used to fly with a guy who's belly was so big, he'd have to grab that sucker with both hands and move it over to his other knee during a flight, just to give the other knee a break. I'm not kidding...I just about pooped my britches the first time I saw it.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Looking back at the posts, it is interesting to see the ones for and against.

The pilots that see no problem with back packs, not wearing the required uniform, ear and ....um....other rings etc, all have very low total times listed with a very limited number of aircraft flown and limited airline experience. A quick scan showed the total times mostly ranging in the 1000 to 2500 range.

10 years ago 1000 to 2500 would be enough to be flying a light twin freighter, or if very lucky a King air or similar.

Currently in the industry, we have very low time (relative to previous generations) pilots flying very large (again, relative to previous generations) jet aircraft. Yet they are flying those aircraft for probably the worst pay scales ever. Instead of trying to raise the bar, and keep the industry as a top tier professional career, most seem content with being a low grade hourly worker bees that have about as much professional pride as a Burger King employee.

In 1979 your average DC-9-30(RJ by todays standards) Captain made 85 bucks an hour and his F/O made 55 an hour. Your average RJ pilot today does not even match that scale dollar for dollar, nevermind correcting for 26 years of inflation.

Maybe the old boys that kept the standards high (personal and professional) may have been on to something here?

very well said!!

 

[CapnVegetto]

Looking back at the posts, it is interesting to see the ones for and against.

The pilots that see no problem with back packs, not wearing the required uniform, ear and ....um....other rings etc, all have very low total times listed with a very limited number of aircraft flown and limited airline experience. A quick scan showed the total times mostly ranging in the 1000 to 2500 range.

10 years ago 1000 to 2500 would be enough to be flying a light twin freighter, or if very lucky a King air or similar.

Currently in the industry, we have very low time (relative to previous generations) pilots flying very large (again, relative to previous generations) jet aircraft. Yet they are flying those aircraft for probably the worst pay scales ever. Instead of trying to raise the bar, and keep the industry as a top tier professional career, most seem content with being a low grade hourly worker bees that have about as much professional pride as a Burger King employee.

In 1979 your average DC-9-30(RJ by todays standards) Captain made 85 bucks an hour and his F/O made 55 an hour. Your average RJ pilot today does not even match that scale dollar for dollar, nevermind correcting for 26 years of inflation.

Maybe the old boys that kept the standards high (personal and professional) may have been on to something here?

Wow, I bet if we abolish backpacks then all those greedy CEO's would see the light and give us all payraises, right????? Really???

Give me a f-ing break.

A backpack makes no bearing whatsoever on how professional you are. How you do your job does. You can dress up in a dam tuxedo with solid gold cufflinks and a $10,000 Rolex, and if you're a jacka$$, then you're still a jacka$$. Some of the highest time, most senior people I've met, from your 'golden era', are some of the worst pilots and most unprofessional jacka$$es I've ever met. Likewise, I've seen younger, low time guys wearing backpacks that can fly circles around the old farts.

I've seen the word 'professional' thrown around so much by people that have no idea what it means. Wearing a nice spiffy uniform with a hat doesn't make you a professional. Wearing a backpack doesn't make you unprofessional. How you do your job, your skill level, your knowledge, and your ability make you professional. A dam backpack or hat has nothing to do with it.

Get a life.